So, besides the usual rubbish people spout of paying off the mortgage and buying friends and family stuff... blah blah blah.

A common thought among people is to donate a ton of cash to charity. So here's the challenge: how do you determine who is in greatest need? Even $90 million won't go very far when applied to the poverty and desperate circumstances much of the world's population find themselves in.

So, how to go about determining need? Trust the UN? Not too sure about that - they'd spend all the cash on focus groups.

Which charities / groups of people are at the top of your "must help when I win the lotto" list?

I think the top of my list would be helping provide clean water to communities that don't yet have it. Unfortunately that means bam! the money's gone. I can't however think of a bigger impact that $90 mill could have.

taliban

Im keeping it all " f*** the poor ".

one big term deposit to help the banks get back on their feet?

one big term deposit to help the banks get back on their feet?

lol

Krispy Kremes.

I wouldnt give any directly to any charity, well maybe a little bit to a childrens cancer charity or something like that.

I certainly wouldnt give to any charity even remotely connected to any religous organisation, I just dont trust them.

I think the only way I would give would be to donate directly to familys with sick kids who need money for an operation or something.

create your own charity?

2 girls at the same time

I wouldnt give any directly to any charity

This...

The Red Cross CEO is on $300,000 a year.

Charity my ass :S

On 2nd thoughts i would pay the public liability insurance for the qgl, so we could have another Lan and book the convention centre as venue.

The poor are still getting f*** all , maybe Queensland cancer fund will get a few bucks.

Obviously the organisations that are close to my heart. That either me, my family, or people I can identify with will benefit from

I would use it to further my plans of taking over the world. That way I can truly end poverty.

Donate to research for cervical cancer, prostate cancer, breast cancer and other likes.

I wouldn't give to the mainstream charities (Red Cross, Salvos, etc). I'd probably focus most of it into charities that help children and the disabled. Maybe even do your own charity and give direct to families that need the money through paying for medical expenses and so on.

I read an article a few weeks back about an almost blind guy who wants a street lamp installed so he can walk home from the bus stop after he finishes work for the day but the council can't afford it (asif). So instead he either has to finish when it's daylight (probably pissing off his boss) or get a carer to take him home. The carer ended up being a guy affected by mental illness who is doing his best to give back to the community.

People who do selfless acts and are genuinely needy would get my coin.

Hmm I like the idea of donating directly to the families who need the money for operations etc. Think my money would mostly go towards cancer, sick kids, clean water and the RSPCA

Firstly I'd set myself up so that I'm earning more money, that way I can give more out, without compromising myself.

Supporting single mothers $5 at a time.

I would give it to family and friends. No f***ing way I'd waste it by giving it to any organization that's linked to a religion.

Ever seen those places that give away food to families that cant afford it ?
Id give some money to them.
Meals on Wheels too.
90 million ?
That is an obscene amount of money to win.

Why cant 90 ppl win 1 million ?

Why cant 90 ppl win 1 million ?

thats probably how many will end up winning

Strippers come to mind. My shout.

Australian Surf Life Savers

Donate to research for cervical cancer

Lions Club Australia sorted that one out already mate. (edit - actually a member used LC funding to come up with the vaccine) they don't want your monies.. just some time to pitch in on other projects if you have it to spare eh. There's a desperate shortage of IT savvy members :)

(meaning everyone there thinks computers are Apple Macs :/ )

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actually a member used LC funding to come up with the vaccine

and then catholic schools were against it being given to school age girls becuase if there were following the rule of god, then they wouldnt need it.

I wouldn't let them tell people who I am so that people won't know I'm a c*** when I keep it all.

Charities are bloated with bureaucracy. Just give the alcohol and drugs directly to the poor people and skip the middleman.

I'd buy a small island in international waters, outside of anyone else jurisdiction
setup a research lab and let the worlds best scientists do whatever they want with no fear of prosecution or persecution

then I'd fly in some of columbias best blow and whores, have myself a party

I wouldn't let them tell people who I am so that people won't know I'm a c*** when I keep it all.

haha. I thought about this the other night, wondered if you could keep it a secret or whether the new papers would be all over you like a rash no matter how hard you tried to stay anonymous.

either way, lotto = gambling, gambling = a sin, you all = going to hell.

setup a research lab and let the worlds best scientists do whatever they want with no fear of prosecution or persecution

We call it SkyNet, sir. Whatdya reckon??

Whats going to protect this island in the middle of no where from getting itself blown the f*** up by some random sub!~@

By not telling anyone which island it is or where it is?

Whats going to protect this island in the middle of no where from getting itself blown the f*** up by some random sub!~@

its the island from lost

create your own charity?

That could be pretty cool. Set a certain amount to give out each year and spend your time travelling the world helping people.

Lions Club Australia sorted that one out already mate. (edit - actually a member used LC funding to come up with the vaccine) they don't want your monies.. just some time to pitch in on other projects if you have it to spare eh. There's a desperate shortage of IT savvy members :)

Does that only help stop one cause of it? IE silly girls who don't have protected sex and contract HPV or whatever it is?

There's something on ACA or one of those tabloid shows about it at the moment, there's reported deaths of girls who have the shot. Pretty small number though vs all the people who've been given it.

I would set up a low Risk, Low yield account with however many Mil (dependant on winnings.) Every year, 1/2 the interest on that account goes to a Charity the other 1/2 gets re-invested into said account/portfolio.

As for which specific charity, not sure. Our family has been pretty lucky health wise and all that. Maybe help a 'Developing' country.

What I do know though, I wont give any money to c***s that just call me like telemarketers. Want my money? Knock on my door have a chat and chances are i'll hand over a couple of bucks.

As for which specific charity, not sure. Our family has been pretty lucky health wise and all that. Maybe help a 'Developing' country.

This is the tough thing for me - help Australians? Or help people that are completely f***ed. I have been interested in malaria for a while after watching this amazing docco about what a lame problem it is and how it's so hard for developing countries to get the drugs they need to the people that need them.

While I'd love to help my fellow Aussies, we sure have it pretty good (at least until Conroy gets his hands on our tubes and/or the rest of the Labor govt figure out a way to break the country, nbd) and I feel like maybe helping some other nation break out of a rut would be a pretty cool thing to do. This docco made it sound like malaria is just one of those things that could be solved simply by pouring the right amount of cash into the right places and then it'd just be f***ing gone!@#

Like a few peeps said above, I would set myself up first to be earning a steady income, then invest a percentage of that income in various means including some to charity.

Then I'd pass it onto my only son who would develop a heroin addiction and blow it all on hookers and coke.

I would set up a foundation to search for a cure for, and help people with M.S.

i would spend it ALL on bitches and blow

i would spend it ALL on bitches and blow

My long lost son!!!!!! It all makes sense now.

Petal would veto your bill Spooky, and you knows it!

Though in all seriousness, I would attempt to buy one of these

http://www.militair.net/images/wapens/helikopters/AH-64 Apache longbow apache.jpg

Without the weapons they run under $20 million.

f*** charity.

That Apache would be perfect for protecting your crop, Chub.

fund a QGL Lan??

that's been said..

Fund QGL lans for the rest of time, though?

I'd buy ANZ stadium and charge all the sporting events more in order to run QGL lans for free.

why not just buy L block off QUT and host a 6 story LAN?

or just buy some remotish block of land and build on it? would that be cheaper?

hmmm. I would donate some to caritas - religion yes, however, a recognised catholic organisation making a difference - particularly in Asia. Then i would invest in childrens sport by creating a Intitute of Sport where I live in Roma - massive talent, no opportunity unless the move to Brisbane. I live next door to Darren Lockyer's Old house and down the road from Artie Beetson!!! I also think i'd donate a substantial amount to QGL!

Im f***ing feeling it CHUB! If i get the other half we'll be missioning it out together!

Friends and Family foremost, a very wide investment portfolio, including gold bullion stashes. I'd use the investments to make sure I never had to work again.

I'd then probably party hard for a few years and then looking for meaning in my life and use my time and resources ( not my money directly ) to help people ... like trog said, not Australian's, but people who really need help. Build schoolhouses, orphanages, clean water supplies etc etc in third world.

yeah, but that sounds like work.

Then i would invest in childrens sport by creating a Intitute of Sport where I live in Roma.

You live in Roma? What's a 100acres out there at the moment?

Friends and Family foremost, a very wide investment portfolio,

Yeah foremost I probably need a lawyer, then my AH-64D Apache Longbow

i'd spend a million on an amusement park for my exclusive use

http://www.scopevic.org.au/
http://www.schoolofstjude.co.tz/
drop a $m or 2 at some of the local vets for those that can't pay for ops
Start a few scholarships for deprived left-handers
and I'd retire and go read some books to sick kids in hospitals around Oz, donating here and there,
you know, see some people, do some things

I'd donate to the "Make a realistic wish foundation". Excellent cause tbh.

Surprisingly most of us here are generous and have a giving nature which is nice to see. Odds are none of us will see $9 from the lotto let alone $90,000,000.00 so I just hope whoever does get it puts some of it towards the less fortunate and needy in the world.

I'd donate to the "Make a realistic wish foundation". Excellent cause tbh.

The fallout from that was amazing.

can't wait till this week is over sigh

We have been made aware that an email was received from a player stating that the number 45 was not coming up when a quick pick is generated. The player reiterated that he tried over 100 times and the number did not appear even once. The consultant who responded to him tested the theory and first time the number 45 came up.

The player also included the Victorian Commission for Gambling Regulation in on the email.

Could you please check that the Random Number Generator is still working accurately

FYI Karen - The player has also advised that he will contact the media if we do not take him seriously. I will send him an interim letter.

die

^ haha, that's just awesome.

lmao!!

If I was on the board at Tattersalls I'd write a letter that could be interpreted that there is a conspiracy.

Example:

Dear Player,

Thank you for your email. As I'm sure you are aware there is no such thing as a 'true' random number in computing. However, we do take steps to insure that the seed for our random number generator is populated from as many different sources as possible.

If the seed was not populated properly for the random number generator then the situation you describe is entirely plausible.

Regards,

Tattersalls Official

Then I'd find a staff member that was on the brink of retiring, having a baby or whatever, and offer them a healthy redundancy package on the proviso they send the letter out.

The redundancy package is the marketing investment.

The guy goes to the media, then you 'sack' the employee that sent the letter, and watch the dollars roll in from your cheap advertising campaign.

What do you think, FaceMan?

so your idea for advertising a well known brand is to drag its name through the mud?

As I'm sure you are aware there is no such thing as a 'true' random number in computing.

Im pretty sure most people dont know this fact, i've tried to explain it to people, that a computer program cannot truely generate a random number, how its always seeded by something, which is where the randomness comes from, but they just look at me with a puzzled look.

One of the big tech companies I think it's sun Has ( had? ) a room full of lava lamps, which a camera feed turned into random numbers based on some wacky algorithm watching the lamps. sounds somewhat random to me.

Cool example of why not to trust random random number generators on computers:

http://www.boallen.com/random-numbers.html

Whenever I see pictures like that I always try to see them in 3d. It's not like I mean to, but my eyes just go into the focus mode which allows you to see 3d pictures.

Cool example of why not to trust random random number generators on computers:

http://www.boallen.com/random-numbers.html

Pity he didn't mention srand()

I don't believe in just instilling fear like that post. One paragraph could have explained how to seed the generator instead of using the automatic seed.

i would buy an r35 gtr.

then id buy like 10 houses

give my family and girlfriend and girlfriends family and mates lots

then buy 20kilos of cokeand od

Pity he didn't mention srand()

From http://au.php.net/srand: "Note: As of PHP 4.2.0, there is no need to seed the random number generator with srand() or mt_srand() as this is now done automatically. "

The place I work uses quantam random number generators

illustration:

LIES! CLEARLY YOU CAN SEE THREADS.

give a million to all aussie news channels to stop reporting about wacko jacko and swine flu, oh and utegate scandal

thanks for the thread, I wasn't aware of the $90m jackpot!

I just registered and bought a ticket online, fairly painless process all around to be honest.

I hope I f***ing win, I'll be able to stay retired permanently and tour the world in style :D

I just registered and bought a ticket online, fairly painless process all around to be honest.

hey! your welcome :)

I bought 4 tickets yesterday so that's 4 times more chances to be disappointed when those numbers dont come up.

so its a 1 in 45 million chance to win, so technically u could buy all winning combinations, but would they actually allow you to do this?

so its a 1 in 45 million chance to win, so technically u could buy all winning combinations, but would they actually allow you to do this?

They reported on Sunrise this morning that someone in Europe (I think) did that recently.

Spent $1m on tickets to gurantee he won the $1.7m prize, which he did.

I guess lucky no one else won it and shared the prize or a loss could have been coming his way.

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so its a 1 in 45 million chance to win, so technically u could buy all winning combinations, but would they actually allow you to do this?

If you could, it would probably end up costing you more than you would win, like betting on every horse in the race.

Just think Rev for $90million you could BUY Mandy Moore.

I bought one ticket with seven specific numbers. Cost me $1.10.

You could buy all 45mil tickets therefore for $45mil, give or take, the problem is that 20mil or whatever tickets have sold already (which is one of the reasons the jackpot is so high). So Oz Lotto protects itself from someone backing the field by design.

Heh, it's being advertised on AusGamers too:

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2831/62034724.th.jpg

See this is what I was working out today... if there are (I think) 45 numbers in the punt, and needing 7 numbers for division 1, wouldn't the odds be: 1:228,713,284,900 ?

edit: the gold lotto website reports: http://www.goldencasket.com/how_to_play/chances.asp

1 in 45,379,620

So f***s me what I'm doing wrong.

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See this is what I was working out today... if there are (I think) 45 numbers in the punt, and needing 7 numbers for division 1, wouldn't the odds be: 1:228,713,284,900 ?

If they were that high, nobody would ever win. Maybe you've worked out the odds of getting all the numbers in a specific order?

you can win with 5040 combinations of the 7 winning numbers

228,713,284,900 / 5040

Actually I stuffed that up. Doesnt add up.

last edited by shad at 12:35:41 30/Jun/09

Maybe... I'm no math wizz but:

You have 45 chances of getting your first number correct, then 44 chances to get the 2nd number correct, (as there is one ball missing), so 45x44 = 1980, then you have a one in 43 chance to get the 3rd number right (as there are now 2 balls missing), so 45x44x43 and so on, 7 times for 7 balls = 45x44x43x42x41x40x39

but yeah im probably doing something wrong.


edit: cheers shad, now you've confused me, where did 5040 come from

last edited by casa at 12:35:41 30/Jun/09

7 * 6 * 5 * 4 * 3 * 2 * 1 = 5040 the number of combinations 7 numbers can come out.

(45*44*43*42*41*40*39) / 5040

Yeah I know that, thanks Tremble :)

start a solar farm

I don't know what lotto rules are or anything I dont play.
But I'll state some rules to work some theories off:

Lets say there are 45 balls
Lets say you pick 7 numbers
Lets say they draw 7 balls.

(i'm pretty sure thats close)


Ball 1: 7/45
0.156

No disputes there. Your chances are literally you have 7 numbers and there are 45 balls.


Ball 2: [(38/45) * (7/44)] + [(7/45) * (6/44)]
0.8*0.15 + 0.156*0.14
0.12+0.02184
0.14

Total chance to match both balls would only be 0.156*0.14 = 0.02184

Not sure if thats the actual maths, but essentially you had a chance that one of your numbers matched up on the first ball.
We've got to remove that chance, It happens in 7/45 times leaving 38/45 times it to not match up and get normal probability.

Now think about that. Now think about ball 3. All that has to happen again its exponential.
The outcomes at this point are - you matched 0 balls. You matched the first ball. You matched the second ball. You matched both balls.
You have to represent them all.

PS: I failed maths B in 2003 so my numbers are probably wrong etc. But i'm pretty sure you'll need to represent your chances dropping off as you play on as your numbers run out as well as represent the less balls in the pit.

you sure did fail

1 in 45,379,620 is correct. 45C7 on your calculator (combinations).

In discrete mathematical terms it's: nCk = n! / k!(n!-k!)

So for this problem:

45! / 7!(45! - 7!) should equal that 45mil number.

mmmm, combinations and permutations
sexy math

I just got a Quickpick and the first row of numbers contained a 45.

Doob your system works.

ps. I'll buy you a six pack if you hack your system so I win.

hrm i probably overthunk that one

the vic20 that powers doobs sight must have been on a coffee break this mornign when wifey tried to buy some tickets

epic online buy ticket due to non responding website fail

Getting back on topic for a minute (save the probabilities for the other thread):

Something else I've thought about for a while is actually starting a charity to send condoms and safe sex instruction stuff to Africa to try and help with the AIDS epidemic (not to mention the other benefits of reducing population growth in areas that can't afford to maintain children in good environments).

I've been planning to do a bunch of research about this to find out if it's worth doing but on the surface it seems like an interesting idea.

they dont use condoms becuase they want the biggest family they can get
big family, dominate males etc

they really dont mind spreading that s*** around

Getting back on topic for a minute (save the probabilities for the other thread):

Something else I've thought about for a while is actually starting a charity to send condoms and safe sex instruction stuff to Africa to try and help with the AIDS epidemic (not to mention the other benefits of reducing population growth in areas that can't afford to maintain children in good environments).

I've been planning to do a bunch of research about this to find out if it's worth doing but on the surface it seems like an interesting idea.

Plus you'd get the side-effect of many free condoms. I'm in!

I can also confirm doob's random number generator picked out 45 for me. Once in the System 10 (go go 210 in 45mil chances) and in my 12 game quick pick.

I was talking with a mate of mine and I started playing around with numbers and worked out that after I take my slice for investments, pay out friends debts, set up the family for life, drop 10mil in a trust fund for future ticcys then I'd still have about 50mil left over for my charity.

So god, buddah, Ishmal, Ala and whoever else is listening - cough up the ponies to me and I'll be sure to spend a good chunk helping out the sick and needy.

A couple of attempts at giving away free condoms failed for the following reasons (these actually happened):

1. They sent instructions out with the condoms. The local distributors stapled the instructions through the condoms.


2. Instructors rolled condoms onto their thumbs to demonstrate how condoms should be used - people took them literally and put them on their thumbs.

Then you've got the shamans (witch-doctors) claiming condoms are a white-man plot. Some of these "recognised" medical practitioners have told patients that having unprotected sex with babies, children, virgins will cure them of AIDS. <-- Not a joke, such occurrences are widely reported.

hehe spook - just wait till 8.30 tonight when they try and put the results up. so glad im not on call this week w00000t

A couple of attempts at giving away free condoms failed for the following reasons (these actually happened):

Yeh I'd like to think I could organise something a little bit better than that if I had $90m.

I'd also buy ausgamers forum and decommision it so that only QGL remains.

Something else I've thought about for a while is actually starting a charity to send condoms and safe sex instruction stuff to Africa

http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20060901.gif

hahaahahah frakture, nice

Check out south africa trog, free condoms all around....hasn't stop the spread. I work with a couple of SA's and some of the stories they tell...whoa! Apparently garlic is an AIDS cure...eat s***loads of it and you're cured. Or have sex with a virgin and you're cured. Or wash it off really well and you're cured!

having not read the entire thread, im not sure its been mentioned yet, but doesnt about $40million of that end up going to the tax man anyway?

having not read the entire thread, im not sure its been mentioned yet, but doesnt about $40million of that end up going to the tax man anyway?

lotto is tax free.

it's only tax free for the FIRST year as far as I am aware... and then you are taxed on all income/profits relating to the initial win.


also doobs - did you design the online sales part of the site???

I'd also buy ausgamers forum and decommision it so that only QGL remains.

'oath. And get rid of noobs/trolls.

im more involved in the techincal side ie taking the transactions to the hosts not at all a web guy

cool, so long as I win the lotto I don't mind :p

it's only tax free for the FIRST year as far as I am aware...

My understanding is that the money won from gaming is completely tax free

and then you are taxed on all income/profits relating to the initial win.

Income from investments are taxed regardless of whether they are from lotto or not. You should be paying tax on interest off that 90M from the first year.

it's only tax free for the FIRST year as far as I am aware....

nope its completely tax free.

So what were the numbers?

12 3 38 21 23 29 40 supps 43 22

i won division 4 - yey!

I was making a tea in the draw and I called '12' before the first number dropped (which is in my numbers) so I thought I was onto a winner. Nothing after that... *sigh* hehe

Something else I've thought about for a while is actually starting a charity to send condoms and safe sex instruction stuff to Africa to try and help with the AIDS epidemic (not to mention the other benefits of reducing population growth in areas that can't afford to maintain children in good environments).

I've been planning to do a bunch of research about this to find out if it's worth doing but on the surface it seems like an interesting idea.

Or we could just put them down and save them a long painful death and reduce the chance of them causing others to have a similar fate.

Getting back on topic for a minute (save the probabilities for the other thread):

ahhh... You see who's getting a commission everybody.