My take on the past and future from a personal prospective:
John Howard was no Robin Hood when he stole Telstra from the many and sold it to the few that could afford to buy shares.
It is rich that Mr. Minchin can now take the populist high moral ground claiming Telstra should not be broken up and unfortunately Kevin Rudd hasn’t a reply, it is through no fault of his own that funds have dissolved reducing the possibilities!
There is now no easy answer, the previous Government failed to leave its options open in regards to network access or planning for broader population revenue through long term infrastructure!
Both Governments greed based ignorance towards the obvious limitations to self-regulation will only be realised when the top end of town start to suffer on an individual level, the resultant extent of divide at this point will be extreme and lasting!
I think even in the face of a harder road we need to break Telstra up!

Here’s some of my experience:

My name is Gary Looney, a farmer from Menindee NSW that tried to move from a water reliant agricultural business growing vegetable and apricots to a sustainable business on line that would involve helping fellow outback residents through drought related issues.

On my website (Put online through public computer via USB) I describe unfair treatment by a Telecommunications Company that denied liability for resultant disadvantage caused, leaving me powerless to have the truth acknowledged.

Initially I thought the company would apologise unreservedly with admission of error and compensate my loss, but found instead the response was to fight virulently with denial.

The average person is no match for the legal resources and assumption of credibility such Companies have. I disconnected all services in 2006 having no phone or Internet since!

All documentation has been put on line at:
http://www.broadband.notice.com.au

I have provided evidence to the ACCC, Liberal and Labor party showing in detail how Telstra with the help of the TIO has covered up there immoral actions against me, this is in black and white to the extent that within their own submission material and assessment of, there are serious contradictions suggesting even to a layman with average comprehension skills that these organisation worked together to achieve a pro-Telstra response and hide liability! Complexly altering the facts that were in breach of the Trade Practices Act and failing acceptable moral standards.

Accordingly the TIO's findings are knowingly based on lies and manipulation showing what we in the real-world have known all along, that the TIO is not independent of Telstra (being their initial founder with Optus) nor is the TIO non-bias, fair or credible and accordingly neither can their judgement be!

The ACCC assessment of my case is also erroneous as it did not recognise the facts I state above and there-for is based on a premise that Telstra and the TIO have behaved in a fair, acceptable manner! Additionally their written assessment has errors of comprehension which contradict easily recognised facts when referenced against available provided information; accordingly the pro-Telstra/TIO assessment findings of the ACCC cannot be accurate or treated as credible!

Telstra cannot be Trusted to treat me fairly as shown, nor could it be expected of me to Trust Telstra in any future dealings and because of this I have been disadvantaged for over two years going without phone or Internet, Telstra owns the only infrastructure in our exchange and copper connection would be the only viable option in both price and bandwidth to start a business I had planned in 2006 to move from my then water reliant agriculture for a sustainable future income!

This shows just how much we can trust Government and authorities to protect the average person, if you cannot afford to protect your self against such powerful people then you evidently forgo the right to lawful existence

Have you had a similar experience, is it only me they show no respect for, let us know!

Regards Gary Looney

Menindee NSW 2879

Quick - to the pitch forks!@

Try someone who cares

last edited by Fireblood at 14:50:17 21/Nov/08

(edit) couldn't you just run the business off some hosted box that has a phat connect (ie: in a city!) & then make updates n wotnot from your dialup or wotever connect? you shouldn't be runnig a site from your home connect anyways... that's naughty. :P



last edited by demon at 15:25:41 21/Nov/08

Have you had a similar experience, is it only me they show no respect for, let us know!

Most of us here are city dwellers who, I suspect, gave up on Telstra long ago - your post might meet with a more serious reception on somewhere like whirlpool where there are thousands of Telstra hating drones that will be only too happy to wax vitriolic with you.

The only other thing I'd add is the immortal quote by Napoleon - "Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence." Mostly I think Telstra aren't evil and most of the problems people have with them are just bad luck or the result of clueless support or accounting staff making simple mistakes.

For anyone else that is posting after me, if you have nothing constructive to add, kindly don't add anything.

last edited by trog at 15:02:17 21/Nov/08

Mostly I think Telstra aren't evil.

Mostly I think Telstra aren't evil.

Mostly I think Telstra aren't evil.

Mostly I think Telstra aren't evil.

Mostly I think Telstra aren't evil.

Wow Trog. I think conflict of interest should prevent you from commenting on this sort of thing.

So lets see if I understand this correctly. The TIO ruled in favour of Telstra, so now he's crying bias. Yeah. Okay.

As much as I hate Telstra, and believe the government is doing a s*** job with telecommunications, I also have faith in the TIO.

Wow Trog. I think conflict of interest should prevent you from commenting on this sort of thing.

Aside from, say, raving delusion, on what grounds?

http://www.broadband.notice.com.au/files/Official_Complaint_to_Telstra.pdf

You should really not put your full personal details online - there is a thing called identity theft that all the new kids are trying.

dude! you live in the sticks!

of course telstra doesn't give a f*** about you and people like you.
it costs a lot of money to send signals that far, hence why they don't like you. you cost money rather than make money.

telstra barely give a f*** about people who live in the city also.

get with the times, telstra are tossers.
they are trying to make money hand over fist like every other business.

About the National Broadband Network or (NBN) what do you think

also, what has your bitching about treatment by telstra got to do with the NBN?

which by the way is going to be a waste of money if the filtering goes thru.

Oh, no, Telstra are evil. I work for them...

I have worked for Telstra, I agree with Napoleon.

incompetence is a bit harsh.. it's a friggen complex beast. If it starts making sense to you, it's time to get out.

oh great a farmer.

you c***s complain endlessly about how the dust bowl you decided to grow cotton in happens to be in drought 5 years in every 10. the other 5 years you only make money because of import tarrifs and quotas and wasting the precious water us city folk need to wash our cars and water our pot-plants. then you have a whinge about not getting mobile reception and broadband internet.

heres a couple of hints, you're trying to grow s*** on the driest continent on earth. thats not going to work. you're 1000km from the nearest person you aren't related by blood to. you can forget about adsl. and lastly nobody cares. really, nobody does.

fireup nF

Ive read about something similar on www.whirlpool.net.au
Try posting over there in the Forums.
Im sure you will get some similar stories or at least some help.

my sister is a farmer, don't forget without em we don't eat. so go easy.

ps they do whinge a lot

hydroponics is where its at imo

heres a couple of hints, you're trying to grow s*** on the driest continent on earth. thats not going to work. you're 1000km from the nearest person you aren't related by blood to. you can forget about adsl. and lastly nobody cares. really, nobody does.

You would care if all the people who knew how to farm up and left their job and moved to the cities. Zimbabe for example was probably the most profitable country in Africa until they decided to get rid of the farms, it was all down hill from there.

I agree though...don't expect ADSL way out in the sticks...it just isn't cost effective of feasible. The NBN is a disaster IMO, you won't see anything happen thanks to labor for a decade :p