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Topic: Spam drops as major spammer goes offline
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 25328
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Spamcop's incoming spam graph for the last week - note the big dip in the last 24 hours: http://trog.qgl.org/up/spamweek.gif

This is due to a major US-based spam provider being shut down by its upstream Internet providers after some investigative work by someone from the Washington Post. Details are still forthcoming but their initial report is up and the Slashdot comments are interesting as well.
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Dan
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Posts: 8810
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I'd love to say f*** yeah, but I can't help but feel other assmunching spammers will just see it as a hole the market and ramp up their operations.
Hogfather
Posts: 2192
Location: Cairns, Queensland
How is it a hole in the market tho? Spamming space doesn't seem like a finite resource?
Nathan
Posts: 3012
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Spamming space doesn't seem like a finite resource?


Money to buy spam with like is; whatever companies that were paying this spammer will just look to other spammers to do business with?
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 25329
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I just find it amazing that a US-based company was such a big thing - how did they not get sued into oblivion ages ago
Reduaram
Posts: 15
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I thought spamming was a grey area of the law? I really don't see how it could be illegal. If spamming is illegal wouldn't junk mail be illegal?
Saint
Cainer
Posts: 2210
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Wow nice! Investigative reporting still has its uses eh
Hogfather
Posts: 2196
Location: Cairns, Queensland
Yeh you've got a point there Nathan, didn't consider the supply side as a finite resource.

You's think they could track them (spam buyers) down tho, they have to contact with you to get your money don't they? I guess its more complicated than that.
Ross
Posts: 1753
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Doesn't really work like that. Usually someone is responsible for hosting and the rest falls to the people pushing the penis pills. So everything involved in the process is done by the people that actually ship you the product.

In other instances it can be more like you say but it is usually from affiliates of a particular business that do the dirty work. If you shutdown servers the affiliates just shuffle hosts. This method also removes responsibility from the scumbag owner as if they have a no spam policy they really can't get pinged. Too many complaints ona particular affiliate tag they simply close that tag.

Spamming solutions for example tend not to exist anymore. Just bp hosting for owners to run.


I really really really doubt that 75% of the worlds spam was generated from within the US though. I call bulls*** on that one. China and the subcontinent are the worst offenders by far.
Scorp
Posts: 187
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i dont get it? why would people goto this and not an ordinary maccas? why go to that store and not a maccas that has everything on the menu?
MrHardware
Posts: 3871
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
second time today someone's posted in the wrong thread
Insom
Posts: 2643
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
his funeral will be next week
crazymorton
Posts: 598
Location: Gladstone, Queensland
i don't really get spam these days.
doesn't everyone just ignore/block/delete (well almost everyone)
so how do they make money out of it?
Spook
Posts: 23341
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ive certainly noticed a large increase in spam lately

my work email account is getting hammered
Ross
Posts: 1760
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
nothing to do with me! what are you insinuating?
sLaps_Forehead
Posts: 3806
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
must be purely a numbers game ... for every ten-thousand spams they must get 1 or 2 suckers with droopy dicks.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 25337
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

i don't really get spam these days.
doesn't everyone just ignore/block/delete (well almost everyone)
so how do they make money out of it?
Schneier post on the economics of spam
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 25370
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Amazingly it's still down quite a bit, according to spamcop at least:

http://trog.qgl.org/up/spammonth.gif
scuzzy
Posts: 13119
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
s***, thats impressive
Spook
Posts: 23384
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
if only all the world used gmail, there would be no point to spam ever again
tequila
Posts: 301
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
spamassassin + Thunderbird rules = maybe 2-5% of total emails I see are spam
I get 40-50 a day but they all get marked as read straight up and chucked in my trash, occasionally i check it for false positives but I haven't found one in aaaages

that graphs impressive, 50% drop in spam from one company?
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Spook
Posts: 23385
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
never had a false positive in gmail, id be lucky lately to see 1 or 2 spams a month get through and my gmail account is used everywhere;
infi
Posts: 10279
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ever since i installed GFI at work spam is down to pretty much zero. s*** thats a good program.
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