Both are troubling me at the moment, largely due to playing about 10+hrs of basketball a week, anyone got any advice. Specifically I remember spidz you mentioned some sup you were taking for your joints. I'm to the physio this arvo, but probably someone heres been through this before.

I have bad knees too due to excessive abuse :P I take a supplement called


Glucosamine + Chondroitin


Sposed to help with your cartilage and reduce joint inflammation. Check it out.

Both are troubling me at the moment, largely due to playing about 10+hrs of basketball a week, anyone got any advice. Specifically I remember spidz you mentioned some sup you were taking for your joints. I'm to the physio this arvo, but probably someone heres been through this before.

Yeah same here, I used to play more than than each week when I was younger on a concere pavement..... My left knee is basically stuffed from a couple of bad landing from a layup :(. It's been like this for 2 years now, as soon as I went back to play, boom - sore and swallen knee couldn't bent it for weeks. The Physiso basically said that I can have operation to temporary fix it but it'll come back (something to do with cateliege or something).

I also use the Glucosamine, which helps a bit but it never gonna fix it per se, basically I'll have to live with a dicky knee.

Apparently there are some excersies that will help strengthen the knee, or rather supporting muscles around the knee to reduce this problem. Google for "runner's knee", "jumper's knee" or something like that.

Good luck doode, hope you'll get better, I know I missed playing basketball a lot :(.

Oh I forgot to mention that the Glucosamine will only work if you have SOME cartalige left :) that, and you'd need to take it on the regular (and keep at it) before it starts working.


Don't let your body get to the stage of having no cartalige left otherwise you're gonna have to have expensive surgery... and even that won't always fix things for ya.

Shin splints are c***s :(

I tore a ligament in basketball last week doing some tricky s*** that turned ugly :(

Thanks guys, i had a few issues with them earlier this year whilst squating 3x a week and they resolved themselves by cutting down the volume, I believe that was from going a little bit too low. I had no problems when playing younger, but I didn't play nearly as much. It sucks because I have lots more free time these days and there are pick up games going at UQ every day, i'm not sure if it's just that i'm 21 now as opposed to 15 or 16 and also carrying a 100kg frame.

And yeh Opec you really do miss balling once you stop, I took last week off, but got the urge and went off at 7:30 on sat night for an hour of just shooting.

Thanks guys, i had a few issues with them earlier this year whilst squating 3x a week and they resolved themselves by cutting down the volume, I believe that was from going a little bit too low. I had no problems when playing younger, but I didn't play nearly as much. It sucks because I have lots more free time these days and there are pick up games going at UQ every day, i'm not sure if it's just that i'm 21 now as opposed to 15 or 16 and also carrying a 100kg frame.

heh that's where I use(d) to play all the time after school. In the olden days, you could go to play nearly everyday with good pickup games with good players for hooooours on ends - it's awesome.

And yeah I also found that as I got older (I'm talking about 25+ here), when I got more weight on me, the problem really start to get worst. :( As I said there are some exercise that you can do to reduce this problem (and some exotic option like support gear etc). I got out of bad injury once, similar problem. Basically I just rested for a few weeks, do some knee excersie and it was fine. But for some reason, this time it just wouldn't heal properly (2 years...) maybe I really did myself in this time.

And yeh Opec you really do miss balling once you stop, I took last week off, but got the urge and went off at 7:30 on sat night for an hour of just shooting.

Yeah it's hard. Especially the 1st few weeks of not going. I still get the urges to go every now and then but, the thought of weeks of pain and not being able to walk upstairs or bent the knees for weeks afterward is just really... not very palatable :(.

I could go and shoot around but, you know how it is, you just can't help yourself when you get asked to join a game. People that played with kept nagging me to go back but now they just stopped .... :_(

But the only advice is probably rest it more than a week and get back into it slowly otherwise you might ended up doing yourself some real damange.

Good luck doode :)

Imitation broke my finger when we were playing bball last night, he deserves sore knees.

yeah I'm going to have to agree with everyone else recommending glucosamine. Also what is your calcium intake like? Basically shin splints are caused by damage to the shin bone, and hence the stronger the bone itself, the less prone to shin splints you are. You could try taking a calcium supplement (such as caltrate, which is what I take due to an awful run of broken bones back in high school).

Also shaz, broken fingers suck dong. I had 3 of them in 1 season of cricket in year 11 from 3 separate incidents. They weren't the most fun in the world.

Oh, since we're on the topic of basketball :)



http://media2.big-boys.com/greatbbshot.wmv

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i had both shin splints and bad knees when i was 19. took 3 months off and went back to volleyball. they never came back.

rest is the key

Get some orthotics for your shoes.

Exercises (first google result and they do work)

Wall Shin Raises: Simply stand with your back to a wall, with your heels about the length of your feet away from the wall. Then, lean back until your buttocks and shoulders rest against the wall. Dorsiflex both ankles simultan-eously, while your heels remain in contact with the ground. Bring your toes as far toward your shins as you can, and then lower your feet back toward the ground, but do not allow your forefeet to contact the ground before beginning the next repeat. Simply lower them until they are close to the ground, and then begin another repetition. Complete about 12 to 15 reps.
Once you have finished the reps, maintain your basic position with your back against the wall, dorsiflex your ankles to close to their fullest extent, and then quickly dorsiflex and plantar flex your ankles 15 times over a very small range of motion (smaller than the nearly full range you use for the basic reps; the emphasis here is on quickness). These short, quick ankle movements are called pulses.
As you gain strength over time, make the wall shin raises progressively more difficult by advancing from one set of 15 reps to two and then three sets of 15 (for the basic raises and the pulses). It's okay to walk around for 15 to 30 seconds between sets.
Once you can quite comfortably complete 3 x 15 of the double-leg raises (both basic and quick), progress to the single-leg wall shin raise. The basic position for this exercise is as before, except that you begin with only one foot in contact with the ground; the other foot rests lightly on the wall behind you. Now, full body weight is on one foot - as it is during running - as you carry out the overall routine, and the exercises are considerably more difficult. Begin with 12 to 15 reps per foot (both for the basic exercise and pulses), and progress to 3 x 15 (basic and pulse) on each foot as your strength increases. There's no need to rest between sets; simply carry out 15 reps on one foot plus pulses, shift over to the other for 15 repetitions and pulses, return to the original foot, and so on until you have completed three sets with each foot.

flaxseed oil can be used to lubricate the joints...

i got shin splints when i was playing rugby, i just had to take it easy and rest them for a while

heh osgood schlatus + shin splints put me outta soccer for 6 months

then one day, the splints just f***ed off

still got the f***ing pos disease but =/

Describe 'Bad knees' a bit better and I may be able to help, but probably won't. Best advice is to rest up and dont do anything too stressful with them - you can also spend that time thinking on how you did injure them. The ligaments in your knee only get injured when they do something they are not intended to do...

Now shin splints are a different issue. Try stretching your rear calf with a straight leg and BENT calf stretch (this will stretch your achilles tendon) and then stretch your front calf (or tibialis anterior). If this doesn't alleviate the pain then you probably don't have MTSS and may need to see a doctor

Best advice though is rest, get some NSAIDS (non steroidal anti-inflammatories) and ice until you can stop describing the pain as acute.

never had shin splints in my life so can't comment on that.

but for bad knees (depending on the problem) I'll toss in another vote for glucosamine. Excellent stuff, I take 3 a day - bottle says to take two but my surgeon said to take extra dude to my size. I use the brand in the orange bottle that Dennis Lillee endorses, I'm a sucker for marketing.

Oh I forgot to mention that the Glucosamine will only work if you have SOME cartalige left :) that, and you'd need to take it on the regular (and keep at it) before it starts working.

I've had my lateral miniscus completely removed and most of my medial, but I still find the glucosamine helps alot. Its a great natural anti inflammatory and rebuilds the joint cartiledge. I've found my knee is swelling alot less since I started taking it and I've increased the exercise workload with no bad effects.

http://www.ultimatephysique.com.au/index.php?action=item&id=63&prevaction=category&previd=11&prevstart=0

Try the "bone repair gel".

heh, bone repair gel!














aka lube

Sorry to hear about your bad knees and shin splints man.

Would this glucosamine also help build-up cartilege around my neck, back and fingers? Cause they're occasionally sore and I can crack them :( Cheers.

I've had totally carp knees for about 10 years now. 3-4 nights of indoor cricket and netball will wreak havoc unfortunatley(dislocated both of them over the years). however i recommend 3 things for knee longevity.

My Lillee pills are awesome (Glucosamine Sulfate advertised by Dennis Lillee hehehehe), losing weight, and now recently swimming has increased range of movement, reduced inflammation/swelling and is great 0 impact exercise.

never had shin splints or weak ankles otherwise i prob would have been sent to the glue factory years ago.

I had bad shin splints when I was running in winter last year, in the warmer months it seems fine. I'm confident I should be better this winter, as the legs don't hurt at all these days. I'm just aiming to properly stretch before and after runs to help in winter time.