This isn't meant to be another whinging "When is the next QGL" post. So please read it through before banning me :)

I don't remember seeing anything about QGL lans for nearly a year now and the last I remember was something along the lines of looking for venues and checking legal liability (if I've missed seeing a thread about it please forgive me).

Is that still the case? Is there anything that we can do to assist? Do you need people to take on work like venue hunting, or even simple labourers to do set up? If legal costs for determining liability or hardware costs (network equipment etc) are an issue do you need donations?

I guess ultimately I'm saying I'm willing to help get another QGL happening and I'm sure others feel the same.

Trog said something was being planned, not long ago.

But he's probably just a liar ;)
:D

http://members.optusnet.com.au/dbashour/lock.gif

Can I ask why they stopped? I heard it was child porn or something??

I've heard a few stories.

haha no.. it costs alot of money and takes alot of time to set one up.. that's one of the reasons..

Trog said something was being Banned, not long ago.

Fixed ;)

Ok, its a fair question, so heres an update on where things are at.

ANZ contacted us and let us know that the courts we used to use for QGL are no longer available for use. They said they had a few conference rooms and such that we could have a look at, and a couple of us went there earlier this week to scout them out, but they aren't really suitable for the purpose of running lans.

So we're back to trying to find a venue. At this point we're looking at going back to running smaller lans, mainly because finding venues for large 500 person lans is a) really difficult and b) really expensive. The insurance problem was partly coupled with ANZ (they wanted us to have $10 million in public liability to run lans there, and now with this recent change they decided they wanted $20 million so it completely ruled it out).

Anyway, if anyone does have venues, that can hold up to say 300 people, post them here. I know we did this a while ago, and we've been looking for the list made up then, but it seems to have gone walkabouts so if people could post them again (or mail them to us) that'd be rad.

Edit: Just to add a bit more info for potential venues. It needs to have lots of power (preferably 3 phase), not a lot of natural light (or some way to block natural light like curtains on windows or something), air con would be a definate benefit coming into summer, and it needs to be big enough to fit 300 people with tables, chairs, computers and room to move in between.

Also, any info about what sort of public liability they expect us to have to run an event there would be extremely useful, but we can probably find that out ourselves if it goes that far.

last edited by Khel at 18:28:24 04/Nov/04

Didn't Zorro set something up for you guys to use the Brisbane Entertainment centre and was knocked back because it was on the northside?

What about UQ? The UQ Centre could hold plenty of people. I'm not sure if someone checked this out last time it was suggested.

Why not steel zorro's place at strathpine? Its got no windows plenty of room and some tables already there.

http://www.brisbanetechnologypark.com.au/facilities.asp

worth a look

BTP is equipped with a fibre optic backbone and has a Gigabit Ethernet capability. The standard broadband access at BTP is 100Mbit. Bandwidth upto 1Gbit can be provided on request. This means by utilising BTP's infrastructure you can be assured fast internet access, web casting capability that is both cost effective and time efficient providing greater flexibility.

last edited by Denominator at 18:56:17 04/Nov/04

We checked out UQ last time, it was booked out way way in advance, I think about 6 months or more last time we checked, so yeah I guess we're looking for something with a bit more availability than that.

We'd sort of prefer something on the south side, or I guess inner west, mainly because theres already so many lans on north side. North side has GGF, Nudgee, Switch and others, and QGL was always the south side lan to balance these out, so we're aiming to try and keep that happening. Good to give people a choice instead of just basing everything on the north side :)

UQ centre would be sweet.

btp is near the gateway and logan motorway intersection

Brisbane City Hall?

yeah city hall would be great think of all that parking and how far did you want to carry yout pc

i think QGL lans have been waiting too long can we just have a lan and seeing as the difference between the north side and south side is like a 30 minute drive give or take i think we could live with it.

city hall wouldnt that be a bit too pricey?

Have you tried any of the halls at schools ? I think it was suggested last time but Mt.Gravatt State High School have a decent size hall. I'm not sure about how much power you're gonna get out of it though.

Yeah Denominator, was just looking at the website for btp, that looks awesome :)

Only needs $5 million public liability too (much nicer than the $20 million ANZ wants).

Come on khel you know you want to :)

So it's mainly the issue of venue then? Fair enough.

The only venues I know of off the top of my head are inner city (no parking). I'll have a hunt around though. The technology centre place sounds bloody good.

I'd think one of the key criteria is going to be reasonable parking.

wasn't it decided last time that the logan convention centre or sports hall or whatever it was had the requirements? have you checked there again?

On a side note, rather than just "have you tried there" how about if people know about places they check there for more detail before suggesting them to the QGL guys. Save them some work.

btp would be a great venue!
Mainly because im less then a mintues drive from it. :D

SANCHO!

not a lot of natural light (or some way to block natural light like curtains on windows or something)

Ahahaha. You nerds would look pretty funny with a tan :P

Ahahaha. You nerds would look pretty funny with a tan :P

This is a QUEENSLAND thread, off limits to dirty mexicans.

wasn't it decided last time that the logan convention centre or sports hall or whatever it was had the requirements?

We were only looking at the Logan Entertainment Centre as an emergency venue at the time because renovations were under way at ANZ. Then ANZ came back and said renovations were finished so we held it there anyway. Which is lucky, because the pricing that the LEC came back to us with was ludicrous, they wanted us to hire a master of ceremonies to be on hand to do announcements and who knows what the f*** else, as well as a bunch of other people we didn't need, it wasn't going to end up costing a fortune.

*grins*

yeh grunt whats up?

http://www.brisbanetechnologypark.com.au/facilities.asp

worth a look

BTP is equipped with a fibre optic backbone and has a Gigabit Ethernet capability. The standard broadband access at BTP is 100Mbit. Bandwidth upto 1Gbit can be provided on request. This means by utilising BTP's infrastructure you can be assured fast internet access, web casting capability that is both cost effective and time efficient providing greater flexibility.

Probably the best bet by far at the moment. Just one thing.

Dont be total c***s about Internet access. If its available and not too expensive, then please for the love of f***ing god, enable it. None of this bs about not being enough bandwidth or admins only or boohoo leechers will come. You cant play games ALL the time, you need a break plain and simple. Thankyou, continue :D



last edited by Skitza at 21:33:01 04/Nov/04

they hold the sunday computer markets at btp when it rotates there, i have been there about 4 times now...

nice place, lots of parking, air-con, no big windows in the halls..

a total step up from ye old dodgy basketball courts..

even the entrance to the halls are classy, it gets my thumbs up.. :D

jesus, if qgl does go to BTP it's going to be an insane step up as far as lanning is concerned

ritzy clean venue, and a computer market on sunday to feed the hundreds of gamers wanting better machines....

it all smells of win

(and dirty cs kiddies)

Besides QGL Lan , their are serveral brisbane lans already going ..

I dont think brisbane needs more lans , it needs more ppl attending the current lan events

AVGL - http://avgl.avatarit.com.au/ - Runcorn , hall , no air con

Brisbane Gaming League - Fortitude Valley Police Citizens Youth Club http://members.iinet.net.au/~gasteen/index.php

Ellusions - http://www.ellusionz.net - Ipswich

GGF - http://www.goodgamingfun.com/ - Strathpine Community Center

LANJAM - http://www.lanjam.net/ - Salisbury Baptist Church

Lansmash - http://www.lansmash.com/ Springwood venue
Lanstorm - http://www.estorm.com.au/lanstorm/ - estorm cafe at stones corner

Lanvictims - http://www.lanvictims.com/ - Mitchelton venue

NNLAN - http://www.nnlan.com - South brisbane -

Nudgee Lan - http://www.nudgeelan.com/ - Nudgee College - hall - air con

Switch LAN - http://www.theswitch.yi.org/ - Zillmere

Isonic - Clevland - http://www.isonic.net.au/

Uber Lan - no venue yet - http://uberlan.yi.org/


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The following lans on Nov / Dec


Nov 13th 2004 - AVGL
Nov 20th 2004 - Lanstorm
Nov 21/22 2004 - GGF

Dec 04th 2004 - Lanvictims -
Dec 11th 2004 - Lansmash -
Late Dec 2004 - NNLAN



More details on lans in Brisbane , check http://www.lanparty.net.au/

QGL ain't just another LAN though dude :P

BTP looks "maddest", go for it guys (thanks for the hip-yo term, existence).

No offense dude I'm sure that those are all good lans and the like.. but i think a certain amount of the core qgl group really just want one more 'QGL LAN' before they die...

Anyone got 1 big arsed Titan?!?!

edit.

This may seem slightly obvious, and theres probably a reason why it wouldn't work, but what about the RNA Showgrounds?

Its central, they have carparking, they are big arse rooms (clicky) I'm guessing these have been brought up before, so why did it not work out?

Just for intrest's sake, what sort of floor area did ANZ have? whats an ideal size in square metres for the venue to be?

last edited by mongie at 22:39:48 04/Nov/04

im good sancho what you doing with yourself.. you should get on msn :( i miss you

lol
also
I'LL GO TO THIS QGL if it goes "down"

I'm game, maybe I'll let you all touch my hair

I know a primary school hall in Yeronga.....its got s***zen power, lots of natural light, no air-con and no internet access. Can only hold 100 people at a squeeze, but I'm sure that there would be lots of fun had :-)

HAHAHAHAHAH

been there, done that.

Khel: Years back we had a QGL at a the school hall on the corner of Klumpp Road and Logan Road, it was the QLD CPL trials for the first CPLau (SAS/mP days of old), whats wrong with that venue?

Anyone got 1 big arsed Titan?!?!

comedy gold ^^

Clairvaux MacKillop fade? f*** that place better have aircon by now :)

Maybe hunter will come and then some of you guys are bashed @ QGL carpark! ;)

maybe everyone could have like a home-lan oh wait its called game arena

Actually its now just THE arena.

hehe six degrees of separation at work here. I am reading the thread and checking out the BTP and thinking that it looks by far the best place...check out the web site and realise its on land that used to be owned by a workmate of mine years ago..had many a barby and drink there. He had a farm there where he used to break horses in for a hobby..When he retired he sold the land for s***load.

Certainly looks like it could handle a QGL lan for sure..

know a primary school hall in Yeronga.....its got s***zen power, lots of natural light, no air-con and no internet access. Can only hold 100 people at a squeeze, but I'm sure that there would be lots of fun had :-)

I'd even come to that...as long as I could hear Jim screaming, "who the f*** is copying!!"

Actually, it's still called GameArena, just the server browser is called The Arena :-)

fade if i remember that had lack of power?

As for tafedoods comment the local lans need the "big" lan to bring back the population, since qgl has not been running the community within brisbane has shrunk to about 20%.

not that it is a bad thing, alot of younger people have left and given up on here. i only said alot not all unfortuantely :(

Didn't Zorro set something up for you guys to use the Brisbane Entertainment centre and was knocked back because it was on the northside?

Isn't the Brisbane Entertainment Centre in the CBD not on the north side?

Do you mean where they hold GGF? If so, that isn't even in the same city, let alone just 'on the northside'.

uh mass

there's already a lan running at that particular hall =)

next one is last weekend of november

Isn't the Brisbane Entertainment Centre in the CBD not on the north side?

Its at Boondall. Nowhere near the CBD lol.

pfft mP.

i think he's thinking of the convention centre - which would cost and assload of cash and a blowjob at least.

BBC has a pretty big gym.

shutup before i scout your bitch arse Trin (I played CS today, I feel dirty, even more so as someone tried to recruit me into a clan.....)

Wasnt that place really hot too?

Fun tho ;D


You only feel dirty fade cause you didnt join :p

Besides QGL Lan , their are serveral brisbane lans already going ..

I dont want to go to another LAN, I want another QGL.
Dont ask why, but other lans dont seem as appealing. Always had a maddest time at qgl.

Does anyone else find it more than a little hypocritical that Tafedood has used the QGL forums multiple times, to pimp a multitude of lans, even coming into a thread about the next QGL lan to do so, and then turns around and tells us all how QGL is not necessary?

If we're so un-necessary, go pimp your lans elsewhere thanks.

As for venues, I think we checked BBC last time as well, their facilities were mega booked too, but it could be worth checking out again. Clairvaux was really really f***en hot, so we're not in a hurry to go back there again. Also wasn't the best value for money considering the venue.

As for size, I believe the courts at ANZ were about 900 square metres, but that may also have included the stands. Anything around the 600 to 700 square metre mark is probably what we'd be looking at now.

The auditorium at BTP is about 640 square metres, which would be pretty perfect size wise, so its still looking pretty good :) If we want it smaller they can also cut it into 3 sections and just give you a third or two thirds of it, which is pretty nifty.

last edited by Khel at 04:00:03 05/Nov/04

The auditorium at BTP is about 640 square metres, which would be pretty perfect size wise, so its still looking pretty good :) If we want it smaller they can also cut it into 3 sections and just give you a third or two thirds of it, which is pretty nifty.

If you decided to hold the lan at this venue, what would be a ball park figure of the attendance number?

Probably around 300. Thats very ballpark though, so dont go holding me to it :)

Southside bs aside - what's wrong with using the Entertainment Centre? If it's way too costly, then fair enough, but it's hardly a problem to get to - hell - it's probably easier to get to than ANZ is for the majority of people & it's entirely airconned... Or is it simply too "northside" ?

I remember the last one of these threads they said it cost too much?
Could be wrong.

btp and rna showgrounds sounds awesum.

rna showgrounds we could bring our dirtbikes and ride them inbetween caining it up in old style Q3 :)

Dont be total c***s about Internet access. If its available and not too expensive, then please for the love of f***ing god, enable it.

personally while it can be nifty i dont really care about it, the only reason i'd accually want it would be for steam. theres always gonna be people having trouble with expired tickets.

lan cs:source is gonna be awesum, DC-final is gonna fully rock!
battlefield2 is pure jizum!!

i havnt been to a lan in years. so this will be an excuse to mingle with u fellers and try my smooth talk on Obes

edit:did the insurance increase before or after the 'backpunch'?

last edited by Fuknukle at 10:53:51 05/Nov/04

If you decided to hold the lan at this venue, what would be a ball park figure of the attendance number?

I'd say around 250-300 confortably. The most seating we ever had at ANZ was around 430 for 900sq meters, but had done up a table layout that could have fit in around 470 in theory.

To be honest, we've discussed it and don't think we'd get the numbers we used to, and we don't really want to run big lans as we did in the past to try and prevent any burntout from occuring. So we'll start off smaller, then possibly work our way up again if need be.

Edited - my numbers were wrong, and have since been fixed. Was leaving out 100 or so spots ;)

last edited by Saint at 11:47:44 05/Nov/04

What about Chandler? Wasn't that to be an alternate venue at one time?

Chandler was too pricey, as were RNA and Convention Centre. They'd be good venues for a big final or something though.

you guys are my heros
let us know if you need a hand with anything. including money, i'd be more than happy to throw money at ya.

and im not talkin 5 bucks, even 100 bucks i'd put in just to get it started

I will check out sheraton hotel, they have a conference room and that there, have hook ups, so will see what can be done.

good work fuknukle you can direct that money to me.. care of QGL i'll buy the condoms/jimmies for the event, suhaib will need at least 50 for all the bumsecs he gives out :P

If it was somewhere like the sheraton, people would also need to be allowed to use the sheraton parking for their cars for the duration of the event. I dont think people would appreciate paying admission to the lan and then having to pay another $25 or whatever for parking for the weekend :)

Does anyone else find it more than a little hypocritical ... to pimp a multitude of lans, ... and then turns around and tells us all how QGL is not necessary?

Indeed, heck what ever can pull the attendance numbers is something the Brissy scene can nicely use. Pity that human nature (on all sides of all fences) seems to muddy things when it comes to lanning in Brisbane.

I hope Khel and the boys have a win with a real kick arce event.

lol yea and not too mention the sheriton is fukin expensive. tho the rooms are nice. the spa and pool is great as well. also porn movies on tap

My dad could probably cook up something at sheraton. He knows the manager and takes his clients out for dinner there at least once a week...

that's what QGL needs.. contacts :P
so we can get awesome discounts
im pretty sure we'd be willing to pay anything at the moment just to have one though, and as for distance to somewhere, it's not as if people walk with there computer to the place, they always get lifts or drive.. and people can car pool so if it was somewhere for example like the convention centre i don't think it would be that much of a problem, im not sure?

as long as the lan is in queensland i will be attending qgl next time

BTP looks "maddest", go for it guys (thanks for the hip-yo term, existence).

Hot guy, Hot car, Hot sayings

you f***ing rule orbs

yeah you f***ing rule brad.. i mean orbs

How about Carindale PCYC.

It was to be the location of the ill fated "FellaLan"

They dont have any info on the rooms on their website, but I seem to remember it was of a reasonable size...

Clicky

Car parking and prices are a big concern. Although a lot of us say "Yeah doesn't matter what it'll cost" there are ten times as many people who are thinking "Bugger that it's too expensive". The biggest thing is having sufficient loading zones and reasonably cheap parking nearby. We have conference rooms at work that would take 100-200 people but there is a two car loading zone about 50 metres from the building. I can't see people queuing on the road waiting to get into the loading zone two at a time.

I'm chasing the convention centre to see what their rates are. There is parking quite close (straight under the centre) and it costs about $8 for the whole day. I'd assume $8-10 to park for the whole day wouldn't be too excessive.

haha brad

"bwaaad, come clean the come stains off the sheets you naughty boy!"

Well...seeing ppl r saying ZORRO did this and so on..
heres what I actually said...

"IF QGL WANT A VENUE..I CAN GET THEM BOONDALL ENTERTAINMENT CENTER FOR FREE"...
There...thats what i offered...
NO cost....just insurance needed to b worked thru..even that can be done...
I was told much the same as was posted here..."ITS ON THE NORTHSIDE"

Thats QGL's decision..accept it and move on...

Don't bother to ask or say "HOW CAN HE DO THAT?"...cause I can...
You will find the RNA is expensive..
I did have the prices for the Walter pageot pav...bout $3k a day..+ bump-in...sheraton..bout...$4k a day....southbank convention center...about $4.5k a day with NO bump in...

O..typo..it isn't - as u can NOW see...the GGF hall i was talking about....
For those of u who need to kno..i work for LGAQ...hence my contact

If the entertainment centre works out to be free, i cannot see why you cant hold it there, its a god send.

Agreed. Surely free venue has to be taken seriously - if you can, in fact, deliver. It would reduce costs by a huge percentage.

I've been hanging around QGL forums for fours years and am still a QGL lan virgin. And it's getting boring. If I'm willing to drive from the coast to the northside to savour the QGL experience, you slack bastards can surely handle another 20 minutes drive north.

I agree with the idea of having net access - maybe limited to http:80 and 443.

They just don't wanna hold another QGL....

Considering how much work it is, I don't blame them. If it does happen, it'll be thanks to a s***load of hard, thankless work by a few people. I know I wouldn't be game to try organise something this big.

They just don't wanna hold another QGL

Damn, you figured it out. I can see you truly are a master of deduction. Bravo chap, smashing effort.

Khel, while I know what you mean about QGL being a southside lan, I have to agree, if Zorro (champ :D) can get BEC for nothing, its worth taking.

Most of the older people will be driving themselves anyway, and anyone who gets a lift will be able to con their soccer mum into taking them an extra 20 mins down the road.

That is, of course, assuming the physical aspects of the venue work out ok.

dont rule out venues without enough power also. generated power isnt that expensive and alot of the time cleaner than grid power if using descent gear. since mainly "venues" have the power that "halls" dont the cost goes up. so finding an air-con hall with good space etc and hiring a generator would probably work out the same as hiring a "venue" and work out alot better for you in terms of insurance & features (eg free parking)

the more focused a place is on hosting events the harder it actually is to run one without a big budget, think outside the box ;) btw khel if you need to talk bout hire of event equipment or whatever get in touch.

I'd help you guys if it was at BEC since I can get there pretty easily.

If I'm willing to drive from the coast to the northside to savour the QGL experience, you slack bastards can surely handle another 20 minutes drive north.

actually, most of the admins live on the north side. but qgl is THE south side lan.

i got a bad feeling...

As soon as my exams are over (12th) ill be talking to Griffith University about renting the sports hall for QGL.

The hall in question is at Nathan campus which is across the road from ANZ Stadium, a lot of you probabily know it because you all take your exams there and hate the place like me.

Im an exectuive in the SRC so i can sweet talk the uni into giving the qgl guys a good deal - other than that i know that GU has a heap of conference rooms but i dont know of anything that will hold 300. ILl speak to facilities management and see what i can organise.

Kehl ill get bear to relay anything i find thru to you

good to see the effort Lowgoz :) wd

How about Carindale PCYC.

It was to be the location of the ill fated "FellaLan"

They dont have any info on the rooms on their website, but I seem to remember it was of a reasonable size...

Clicky

Carindale looks really good, they even have a bear on a trampoline:

http://www.carindalepcyc.org.au/photos/Web Photos/Picture 055.jpg

the carindale pcyc would not fit in 500 ppl. maybe 50 but not 500 (this is inside im assuming) there is no aircon, well not that i know of since i was there last (bout 3yrs ago)

Is that a koala dressed in a cop uniform by any chance?

+ whats with putting ~50 people IN THE MIDDLE OF A COP STRONGHOLD. isn't that a bad idea seeing what happened last time? ... i assume everyone remembers people running outside snapping CD's when the child porn taskforce turned up

haha yeah but really that s*** is wrong anyway.

if you got child porn you got issues.

No doubt they do, and im glad they got the s*** scared out of them. I just dont think its rather smart to hold an event where everyone will have backed up cds in a cop hangout, doens't seem that smart..

.. but then again the place wont hold that many ppl so i dont know why im worrying

I doubt it will be held in a 50 people hall.

QGL wouldn't be the same if it wasn't huge.

Im an exectuive in the SRC so i can sweet talk the uni into giving the qgl guys a good deal - other than that i know that GU has a heap of conference rooms but i dont know of anything that will hold 300. ILl speak to facilities management and see what i can organise.

Kehl ill get bear to relay anything i find thru to you

Ok, sounds rad.

Probably wont be anymore progress updates till next week now, theres not a whole lot we can chase up over the weekend, but by all means keep the suggestions coming! :)

trogs place

actually, i suggested the RE, how good would that be :P

last edited by kitten at 20:21:31 07/Nov/04

QGL wouldn't be the same if it wasn't huge.

QGL wasn't the same when it was huge.

QGL was huge when it was the same

I never got to goto a QGL.

QGL wasn't the same when it was huge.

Indeed - a few more people then just the forum rats made it in the door :p

time to update the Qgl Poll on the front page

That btp thing sounds alright, in any case a QGL lan is a QGL lan regardless of where it is...and that's what everyone wants

How much did you guys used to spend renting out ANZ for a single lan roughly? I mean rent + net access etc, what does it cost roughly ?

And how many square metres do you want?

Do you usually hire the tables out ?

From memory, QGL owns the hubs etc already don't they?

Kitten - I can assure you the RE has neither the space, nor the power necessary to host something like this :)

In addition, I don't know how 300 geeks would respond to the drunken taughts of an RE Sat/Sun crowd :) Would be a good laugh though.

QGL wouldn't be the same if it wasn't huge.

Yeah, it was so much better when it wasn't huge....

How much did you guys used to spend renting out ANZ for a single lan roughly? I mean rent + net access etc, what does it cost roughly ?

About $5k including tables and stuff... from memory, so don't quote me on that.

And how many square metres do you want?

ANZ was around 900sqm, we'd be happy with around 600sqm.

Do you usually hire the tables out ?

Yes, see above. I think it costs around $1500.

From memory, QGL owns the hubs etc already don't they?

We share a cisco sponsorship with other Ausgamers LANs, so yes, as long as someone else doesn't have them.

Mantra is the MAN WITH THE PLAN!

Or something.

last time i spoke with Kev he said something about Mantra,

I forget what it was but something along the lines of "hes so cute, how could you not approve of him"

wtf?

and wtf?

See Khel's sig for further reference.

Just a quick question, I notice that the sydney people seem to be always able to hold LANS and stuff (going by the name of SGL). There was something about SGL on the TV the other week and I was wondering if the laws were different in QLD or have they just got a sweet deal?

As for the QGL debate, those small >100 LANS just arnt the same as a massive QGL. I've been to 2 QGL's and nothing is like it.

There are always random halls floating around. Big props to the guys helping out the admins. The entertainment center would hold a f***load of people I should think.

/end rant

those small >100 LANS

those small <100 LANS
:-)

so hang on



you're not going to hold a lan northside, even when you're being given premises for free saving _thousands_ in venue hire fees?




am i missing something here? surely if people can make their way to anz stadium they can make their way to boondal..

hahah bam... pillsy has constructed something resembling a point there...

okay as *some* of you know, i dont really come here anymore, i have pretty much given up on the point of looking here for a lan.

But today i worked another 10 hour day meaning this week will result in a total of 50 hours. A handsome pay cheque, but one thats draining on the body.

Noone on msn. Noone available to call. All my "interesting" sites are boring.

I come here and BAM. This sticky gets me wondering.

6 months advance booking, public liability. alot of discussion?

If nothing else i want to promote the fact that i know many many people who would be willing to at least chip in a little bit of money, or help out a couple hours in advance if it was gonna happen.

By a couple of hours in advance, i mean for a couple of hours each which means stuff like setting up tables/running lan cables can be helped with, etc.

But more to the point making a point of its interesting so stop giving up! even if we wait 6 more months, thats heaps better then another year just to get another decent discussion of why it doesnt make sense to wait 6 more months.

(oh and UQ is really close so thats also convenient to me xD)

edit:

QGL wouldn't be the same if it wasn't huge.

People thought qgl would never be the same if it never happened, but people still talk about the same stuff, the same threads get reviseted and the same people have the growing postcount =p

Though i agree 50 is small, 150-300 is better then no lan at all. Rather then one huge lan, maybe segment the lan into stuff like "QGL-CS lan in april" "QGL BF1942 & Q3A LAN in june" and then at least you go to the lan you think is good, and go see the people you play with, and meet the people from the servers.

etc

last edited by skythra at 20:17:12 09/Nov/04

hey guys, how many people will travel out to cleveland for a lan? there is a sweet ass venue out here for almost free (like $500 for 2 days) has parking etc and _some_ food prep and service space (big fridge) can seat upwards of 450 people and the best part.. im the on hand dude there so it my way or the highway.. though it has no in house networking or aircon :( it does have about 8 major fast food chains close by (eagle boys pizza hut dominoes red rooster macdonalds kfc several million fish and chips shops) also there is limited window are to cover since i hung new curtains in there what a week ago now... so if ur concidering a south/east side venue...

Khel i emailed u some stuff about it

If you need help cleaning up which is the worst part of the lan, I allways use to help out at the end of the lan, all the other gamers just left it to the admins. I even took car loads of gear to Term's house when there was only 3 of us to clean up (me, term and boba)

I think that everyone at the lan should have to pay a 20 deposit at the start of the lan, they only get that money back at the very end of the lan if they help pack up and clean up. If it is a 2 day lan and people only want to come one day you could get them to clean up rubbish for half an hr or something.

then if people just want to leave and not help out you would have some cash that should be put straight into the admins pocket's for all the hard work they put in.

The only people that will complain is the people that know they are going to skip out on the job.

As far as I know qgl is a non-profit organisation and everyone can chip in on the day or setup night.

hey guys, how many people will travel out to cleveland for a lan

A whole lot of NO-ONE!

Cleaning up is one of the big problems, and it'll definately need to be something we address when we've got the venue locked down and a lan is happening.

I think asking for a deposit is a bit harsh though, its really only a minority of the people who are the ones causing/leaving all the mess. When the lan happens though, one of the things we will be doing is having a lot more admins out on the floor walking around, checking for armbands (yes, they'll most likely be coming back) to make sure people have paid, checking for juarez, and I guess checking for rubbish as well and getting people to clean up their mess during the lan, rather than leaving it all at the end.

Walk around with a stick and hit people who dont clean up.

Don't allow food or drinks inside.

Problem solved.

As for food and drinks, and general event administration - implement a system like there is in GameArena. Admins deal with the core running of the event, LANOps deal with checking for juarez, food/drink, armbands etc and then LANRefs help organise competitions.

Would take a LOT of the load of the shoulders of the admins, without having to give people full access as "QGL LAN Admins".

I'm not a LAN guru but that LANops and LANrefs sounds like a good idea

yea that actually does sound mad, and also whats wrong with entertainment centre (sorry if it has just been answered, havent been paying that much attention) but can't go wrong with free venues and that is right on the gateway.

Yeah having "helpers" is something I've always wanted to do/implement, so hopefully everyone thinks it's a good idea and we wind up doing it :)

Yeah having "helpers" is something I've always wanted to do/implement, so hopefully everyone thinks it's a good idea and we wind up doing it :)

Seconded...

In addition, I don't know how 300 geeks would respond to the drunken taughts of an RE Sat/Sun crowd :) Would be a good laugh though.

Would definately help keep out the under 18's =)

or qgl could have lans with beer and stripers like that lan at rocklea once apon a time

There was a lan with beer and strippers and I wasn't invited? I mean really...

if this lan goes ahead can I book a seat next to obes in advance?

:P

Edit: i'll sit between obes and acetame pls!

last edited by spidz at 17:13:11 10/Nov/04

Umm, we have a 10 + player LAN that has booze almost everyweekend (booze every weekend, just not always 10 people LANing - generally a minimum of 4 though).

Having an uber LAN this Fri night actually

i still think my idea of having multiple smaller lans based around individual or paired games is good.

have 200 QGL-CS lan january
have a 200 q3a/BF1942 lan march.

But i already will be next to acetame and spaceninja. =-p

i hope parag0n, darius and this certian person named c**** also comes... otherwise my harddrive will be feeling very empty!

that's gay skythra.. i like playing any games.. but i wouldn't want to go to all three.. rather just one big one

umm I already booked my seat next to obes and acetame - back off bitch.

if orbitor comes i'm sitting next to him! :P and existence because he is also sexy.. it can be all the hot guys together.. oh and khel should be there but he's admin so he's to special for us.. hawaiian shirt for the win :P

haha their is plenty of me to go around...

as long as their is room for my protein canister im happy.

You want something to drink that is full of protein?

who doesn't!

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/thomson81/qgl humour/sorbo sit.jpg

this should settle things.

last edited by Kevin Sorbo at 21:06:53 10/Nov/04

anything you say mr sorbo

sorry mr sorbo I'm already sitting next to acetame and obes, but it is nice to know I'm Kevin Sorbo approved.

i hear khel has a spare spot next to him.

if you approve?

Sif sorbo would ever approve of khel.

if i went to the next qgl i would gladly volounteer to clean up :).

You do realise what some people do at qgl lans right?

Hellman109 for instance.

Never been buddy :).

hey guys, how many people will travel out to cleveland for a lan

You would have more luck posting on the SGL forums :)

edit: who changed it?

last edited by Charlie Hode at 17:29:35 11/Nov/04

Wow don't read the thread for a few days and there are cool things happening. If Zorro could indeed get the BEC for free (I'd assume we'd still be up for power as well as the public liability?) that would be brilliant. There is at least a shedload of parking there and it's a huge venue.

If it's at BEC I'd definitely stay for clean up duties. What are the hours like there Zorro? Would we all be kicked out at a certain time if it was a two day lan?

update!

Nothing really to update atm, we're checking out a bunch of venues at the moment. Hopefully have something more substantial to add next week!

news just in, i am cool

I still reckon this is just one big joke.


In a few days khel will come out and post logs from #qgl and we'll all feel like got bean.

hahahaha

/me crys

My original contact at BEC was for 2 or 3 days continous including OVERNIGHT and FREE car parking.....
It was all free....BUT...Its QGL's call which is fair enuf..it is their lan and they can hold it where they feel comfortable with.

I will say tho...NO foodoutlets at venue will be open tho....thats not a big prob tho...not far to go get food anyway.

Anyway..like i said..its their call...i was given a reply in a friendly manner and so it was just an offer to them at the time.
Its a dead issue as far as i consider now.

Flame wars, elsewhere thanks.

^^ LOL
http://www.users.on.net/~thevault/HERMITech/Thread/Geiger.gif

OMG WorldWar 3&4 all in 1

go khel NUKE THE WORLD ;)

yeah 1 more qgl befor i die would be sweet.

http://www.brisbanetechnologypark.com.au/facilities.asp

i vote for this place it looks sweet as.

GO TROG GO....

Umm khel do us a favor and if you nuke everything for an entire pages worth, instead just delete it, i mean its pointless to wade through a page of "nuke" messages

If anyone actually posted that, it would be called spamming.

so stop the spam and cut down the f***ing ham. ie, clean up after yoruself when you burp and people die.

A lot of people if you delete their posts, take it as an invitation to repost what they said, or it spawns a whole series of "where did my post go?" posts. This way its obvious that what they said is unacceptable.

Nobody was necessarily breaking forum rules or anything, I'm just trying to keep the thread on track.

speaking of keeping things on track, i see the thread title includes "updated with lan info", yet i'm unable to find such info.

would you be able to re-cap?

First page, 8th post.

^^ Damn dude, - you been summarised!

It sure is skythra, it sure is.

yeah so admins its been a while sice update has anything happend about lan yet

i think you should un-sticky this thread instead of shamelessyly keeping peoples hopes alive =P

A thread remained unlocked for a few weeks to permit lan discussion. That should string the peeps along for at least another year.

;)

/Here come de nukage... :D

einsteins thread has more posts, very surprising........

more people care about transexuals than lans obviously.

Einstien is more convincing as a woman than this thread about there being another qgl.

hahahahahaha. the einstein jokes will never get old :)

no it's true ITS TRUE!!!