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Topic: UQ Late Submissions?
trog
Posts: 15397
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I found out earlier today I had an assignment due on Friday that I was completely unaware about; I've had my head down for the last week focusing on work and completely forgot all about uni.

I've just completed the assignment after frantically tapping away for the last 8 hours. I can't submit it, because the online submission thing is closed. I've emailed the lecturer to find out what my options are.

What are my chances of reducing the late submission penalty here? This is the first assignment I've ever handed in late in my.. uh.. nearly ten years of uni and I feel f***ing terrible about it. My brain has just been frazzled thinking about work-related stuff and I was sure I didn't have anything due for weeks.

Edit: The irony; it is a web development subject, and the reason it was late was because I was too busy doing commercial web development!@#
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spidz
Posts: 6586
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
if the lecturer is a f*** tard you'll be penalised, which is likely.

however, if the lecturer is a normal human being I'd say your chances of no penalty are exceptional, given your record and the fact that you're a generally all around good guy. Just be honest and provide documentation of your work and I'm sure he/she will be lenient.
Shug
Posts: 75
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Haha, exactly the same boat here trog. Wasn't on the ball for internet interface design and as a result the submission is closed. I think I'll just attach the stuff to an email and face the music.
natslovR
Posts: 3900
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
It always pissed me off when penalties were waived for people handing things in late.

I'm sorry you forgot about it and were busy with other thigns or whatever, but no doubt there are people that struggled to get it in on time and could've done with the extra 48 hours to work on polishing up their assignments, or juggling life.

(i'm no goodie two-shoes, having missed exams and handed assignments in late)
Fade2Black
Posts: 3601
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
odds are you'll have to cop it sweet unless you got something to help your cause i.e. medical cert, being to busy or forgetting just aint gonna get you off the hook. I hope you emailed it to him as an attachment so that he has atleast recieved it as early as possible, least then you got some chance of getting A mark...
clipto
Posts: 1827
Location: Other International
In my experience the way they see it theres just no exscuse for not applying for a extension /befor/ the assignment is due.

So your options... you would be better off claiming you tried to get in contact with him but had to run home and finish the assignment after you couldn't find him. You'll have to be creative to pull that off and think of something that applies to your personal situation, because it's very very easy to leave a message with these guys. Your probably only interested in appealing to his sense of decency (haha) anyway...

For future reference, its piss easy to get an extension 2 minutes befor the assignment is due in comparison to 2 minutes after, you should of done that, even if you thought you wouldn't of been late it would of been worthwhile getting an extension.

BTW, what exscuse are you planning to use? It's not that you were busy with work was it? Are you a external distance ed student?

last edited by clipto at 23:33:51 26/Sep/04
dRanged
Posts: 648
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
You might only cop 10%, Most lecturers I've had only counted the weekend as one day. (typically assignment boxes aren't checked until monday)
typo
Posts: 3628
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
if the lecturer is a f*** tard you'll be penalised, which is likely.


More likely it depends on what kind of student the lecturer perceives Trog to be. I have noticed if you are regarded as a hard working student then you often get big allowances when you make a mistake, compared to when they think you are a f***wad in which case you get 0 tolerance.

You might only cop 10%, Most lecturers I've had only counted the weekend as one day. (typically assignment boxes aren't checked until monday)


UQ’s electronic submission does all of the work for them. It even tells the lecturer exactly how late it was :)

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That being said; it is only 20% per day, so at best you are still sitting on around 80%. Being a big commercial web developer you should be getting close to 100% by default … right?

although the irony is that commercial developers should be able to at least remember their deadlines, not make limp excuses for missing them after the fact
Booyah
Posts: 1526
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
He's getting paid for being a big commercial web developer. On the other hand he's paying to go to uni to hand in the assignment. If I had to make a choice between the two I know which one i'd want to hand in first.

Here at QUT it's 10% penalty for every day over the deadline. I know for one subject I handed in the assignment 3 days late and still somehow ended up with a 17.5/20. If all else fails you might as well give it a shot and hand it in on monday (ie: today)

last edited by Booyah at 01:45:05 27/Sep/04
Furgle
Posts: 658
Location:
bribey bribey?
shad
Posts: 610
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
What are my chances of reducing the late submission penalty here?


If it isn't taking submissions then it might have no late submission at all. I would read up the assignment sheet to see what it says about late submission.
GumbyNoTalent
Posts: 5776
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Why is the lecturer a facktard if he penalises someone for being late, wake up and smell the real roses spidz if your contracted to do some work and your late you will be penalised thats life.

Under extrenuating cuircumstances like a death in the family of sickness you can get a compassionate extension or something similar. But you usually have to ask for it before the due date, simply not organising yourself properly won't get sympathy.
trog
Posts: 15400
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
UQ’s electronic submission does all of the work for them. It even tells the lecturer exactly how late it was :)
Not any more - you can't submit it after the deadline at all.
For future reference, its piss easy to get an extension 2 minutes befor the assignment is due in comparison to 2 minutes after, you should of done that, even if you thought you wouldn't of been late it would of been worthwhile getting an extension.
I would have, had I known about it at all :(
BTW, what exscuse are you planning to use? It's not that you were busy with work was it? Are you a external distance ed student?
I'm going with the busy with work thing; I'm not prepared to make stuff up or mislead him - I'd rather tell the truth and cop it sweet. I'm not an external student.

This is just poor time management on my part. I should have checked the assignment page last week and put a reminder in my phone or somes***.

last edited by trog at 08:44:07 27/Sep/04
trog
Posts: 15401
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Heard back from lecturer - he's prepared to accept it, but a 20% penalty for the 2 day lateness. Ah well, absorb. He also advised me:
Maybe it would have been sensible to have given this subject a higher priority.
heh
Tung
Posts: 2388
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ive recently been dicked around by one of my lecturers, and its affected not only myself but my group.

i was sick for a period of 3 weeks leading up to the first assignment submission, contacting the lecturer, i was advised to hand a medical certificate into the duty tutor, who would then contact the lecturer and approve the extension, whcih i did.

two weeks later we got our submission back, with my section unmarked (handed in 2 days late) and my lecturer saying she had not sighted the certificate at all and i would need to chase up the duty tutor. she also said my tutes couldnt be marked because of the same reason.

anyway, i ended up getting in contact with the tutor who said my lecturer had seen it, i sent a stern email to her and she apologised and said she would rectify it, but so far hasnt. this is getting too much for me, im still unsure as to whether my section has been remarked, and its causing my group grief.

not cool
Opec
Posts: 2260
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I'm going with the busy with work thing; I'm not prepared to make stuff up or mislead him - I'd rather tell the truth and cop it sweet. I'm not an external student.

This is just poor time management on my part. I should have checked the assignment page last week and put a reminder in my phone or somes***.


Unfortunately that excuse won't stick pretty much ever. I know I've tried at QUT .... basically, their come back would be exactly what you just said, "it's your fault, because you have poor time management sorry not our problem. Let this me a lesson for you in the real world blah blah blah".

Yes it's bulls*** especially when you're working full-time as well. But if you're lucky you might be OK seeing from your past records and you are really only 1 day late.

Worst comes to worst, you'll loose 10% but if you aced the assignment i.e. you get 90%-100% then you'll still get your 7 ;)

Good luck though.

Edit:


Heard back from lecturer - he's prepared to accept it, but a 20% penalty for the 2 day lateness. Ah well, absorb. He also advised me:

Maybe it would have been sensible to have given this subject a higher priority.

heh


Heh, so he reckonds your Uni is more important that the thing that pay your rent then?

last edited by Opec at 11:03:17 27/Sep/04
fpot
Posts: 10049
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
What the f*** are you at uni for ten years for? You becoming a neurosurgeon or something?
Booyah
Posts: 1528
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
He's only doing part time study.
Tung
Posts: 2389
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
he had to get an extension on his time there because you are only allowed 10 years max for a degree :p
clipto
Posts: 1828
Location: Other International
I wonder what would happen if you only had 1 subject to go and you just never passed it, taking it again and again, would they f*** you off after 10 years, with only 1 course to go and god only knows what kind of fees? I mean you'd get an extension sure but what would be their limit?

And I can't believe you didn't realise you could apply for an exention after being at uni for 10 years, wtf?
Tung
Posts: 2390
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
if you fail a subject 3 times you get kicked out for a year.
trog
Posts: 15402
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Heh, so he reckonds your Uni is more important that the thing that pay your rent then?
Also, it pays for my uni
Boxhead
Posts: 9853
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
And I can't believe you didn't realise you could apply for an exention after being at uni for 10 years, wtf?
Christ read the first post again.. note the date it was posted note the day he is referring to... (due on friday, he figured out he needed to have it done on sunday...)

How can you apply for an extension for an assignment when you don't realise its due until after the due date?
typo
Posts: 3629
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Heh, so he reckonds your Uni is more important that the thing that pay your rent then?

Also, it pays for my uni


And nights at the RE!!!
spidz
Posts: 6592
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
if you fail a subject 3 times you get kicked out for a year.
if you fail a subject three times in the BEL faculty you don't get kicked out of uni, but you can't do that subject again. So if its a core subject, no degree for you! I was on the edge for one subject after failing it twice I pulled my finger out and got a 7, just to be safe ;)
Leon Trotsky
Posts: 614
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
its called "doctors cert"
typo
Posts: 3632
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
its called "doctors cert"


If you ask for an extension after the fact that way it has to go though some sort of offical process and it isn't in the lecturers hands.

If you don't hand in your current work at the deadline and have made no mention of being sick, you can fail in your application. What a medical certificate can do (without any interactions from the powers that be) is let you do extra work and re-submit.
spidz
Posts: 6601
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
doctors certs don't cover you for electronic submission assignments for obvious reasons, so it would have been rather useless in this case.
typo
Posts: 3634
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
doctors certs don't cover you for electronic submission assignments for obvious reasons, so it would have been rather useless in this case.


Unless you have been sick for a long period of time, and you make some sort of prior arrangements anyway. :)
infiNex
Posts: 1033
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Academics think the world revolves around them. Rarely do they ever survive in the commercial world. Don't take it personal.
Raven
Posts: 698
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
I can't speak for UQ, but at Swin strictly speaking each day of the weekend is counted seperately... though if a lecturer isn't a tightass and/or you have a good reason, he/she might choose to reduce the penalty.

Of course, we also have the problem where if the convenor is asian, and you're an asian student, "hey, no problems!", but you'll get reamed if you're a local.

Generally speaking though most convenors are understanding of the Masters/Postgraduate students who have other work commitments.
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