For those who use IE (and get sick of FF using over 100 megs to render webpages), you can get IE7 final now from Microsoft. promoted forum item

and its coming to winupdates in about 2 weeks.

Yes. Not good for the corporate environment. I believe it should be an optional update, not a critical one.

That said, I have been using IE7 as my main browser through all the flavours:

Beta 1: 5-star s***house.
Beta 2: Very good, rather unstable though.
Beta 3: Awesome. Couldn't fault it.
Release Candidate (current): I can't tell the difference between it and Beta 3.

:) Hugs my IE7 RC :)

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So far so good. Seems a lot quicker than the old IE

yeh i think the Phishing is faster!!

hey TiT phish this (crashes firefox): http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/ffoxdie.html

rocking, been waiting for this!

The quick tab window is pretty s*** hot (Ctrl + Q)

My first impression is "pleasantly surprised" - I haven't tried the beta at all but I'm pretty impressed with how it looks so far.

Can you move the tab bar around yet (i.e. put it down the bottom)? Apart from that I did like the beta!

Yeah MS really did a lot of work on IE 7. Also well done to all the beta testers, they've done an excellent job.

I'm pretty impressed with it so far. Time will tell if I've celebrated too soon I guess.

Ctrl+Q is pretty cool. Now if they can introduce the spell checker like in firefox 2 I will be happy.

until it has the huge amount of extensions i use in firefox i think ill pass

Of course it's decent, Microsoft has competition, their monopoly in the browser market is threathened and they do good things when competing. When there's no competition they suck balls.

Initially, the beta's were good but I still had issues with memory usage (beta 2 this was). Beta 3 at home has worked very well, so I'll see how this goes.

As for plugins, it is just a matter of developers taking up plugin dev work.

I wouldn't even bother thinking nor caring about the features or usability of IE7 until the browser is at least HALF secure. Otherwise I'll just stick to the alternatives of Firefox, Opera, [insert ANY other browser in the world but IE].

They are not perfectly secure themselves, but at least after putting them on I no longer get asked to clean spyware off family/friends' PCs.

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Are all the toolbars locked or something I can't seem to drag the "File Edit View" menu above the address bar, or the tool bar to a new line.

Organizations do not need to deploy the Blocker Toolkit in environments managed with an update management solution such as Windows Server Update Services or Systems Management Server 2003. Organizations can use those products to fully manage deployment of updates released through Windows Update and Microsoft Update, including Internet Explorer 7, within their environment.

Ahh very good :)

What happens if you try to use IE7 on a less-than-legit version of XP? I only ask because this friend...

..copied his legit windows then put it onto your pc?

=/ I'll wait a week or two see how it all pans out first.

I have been giving it a bash for a while now and I too am pleasantly surprised. Its a s***load faster than it used to be thats for sure. Quite like the look of it as well.

yeh i like it.... I had firefox on my computer, but i got into the plugins to much, after installing all the cool plugins my computer was too slow :(

http://secunia.com/advisories/22477/

^^^ LOL that didn't take too long to come out now did it :) I still won't be using IE for any general surfing only in house Dev only.

lol they were saying this bug has been reported back in April....

heh, it made The Age

it's mind-boggling

to quote larry david, i am completely non-plussed.

Its not 100% compatible with ie6 ... 1 of our suppliers Cold Fusion stuff seems so platform dependant that it will only runon ie6.

Also Cold Fusion is awful.

IE7 is better than IE6. Yet I still standby Firefox however. That's because I use Ubuntu too. But even if I did use Windows, I would still be using FF.

I'm sticking with FF. I use IE for viewing incompatible sites and I think MS have done quite a good job with IE7. The Addons for FF are fantastic though. With the IE Addons I found you have to trawl your way through the myriad of pay to use Addons to find any free ones.

Using FF 2 b2 at the moment: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/bonecho/releases/2.0b1.html

Am enjoying it :)

Yeh I'm sticking with Firefox for now; IE7 looks pretty good though and by all reports sucks a lot lot lot less than its predecessor.

Also fortunately most of our sites seem to be compatible with it so we don't have to do heaps of work making it work :) No doubt there's a few little quirks; if anyone finds any please let us know so we can check it out.

You FF fans are living in the past.
Also what kind of reason is 'too many plugins' for not using IE7 !?!?

For what reason(s) do you say we're living in the past? I think you have your browsers mixed up!

You FF fans are living in the past

I also agree that you have your browsers mixed up.

It's taken years for IE to even get close to catching up to other browsers. Even then there's hardly any innovation on Microsoft's part. Just mimicking everything they see while paying very little attention to browser security.

Nothing new here, happy phishing.

we must have mutual friends...

ok, ok... I was trolling and I cbf debating this.. it's sunday after all:)

nothing to see here

Already starting to see PCs come through work that have been pwned by installing IE7... complete pain in the ass...

Quality quality product >.<

and its coming to winupdates in about 2 weeks.

That's odd, my computer told me a couple of nights ago that IE7 was available. Perhaps because I'm (was) using the IE7 beta?

hey TiT phish this (crashes firefox): http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/ffoxdie.html

noscript ftw, my FF didn't crash.

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parabol surfs dodgy websites daily

^^^ heh IE7 uses just as much memory as FF.

why you would stick with a browser that chews over 100mb for browsing web pages is beyond me. FF is s***, anyone who has ever tried to work with dynamic loading of flash movies via Javascript will agree with me, it sux the balls.

100mb is nothing considering how phat most webpages are these days.

Also, what? Dynamic loading of flash movies like... youtube? I don't know what you mean but I have no problems with flash and/or javascript at all in firefox.

I find it absolutely bizarre that anyone can even remotely defend IE from any perspective, except maybe rendering performance which is still pretty impressive.

I find it absolutely bizarre that anyone can even remotely defend IE from any perspective

It's like defending a submarine with flyscreens.

Sure they might have added a few extra weapons to match other subs and maybe painted a red stripe or two, but the moment you go underwater you're f***ed.

I find IE a more solid product overall, firefox crashes on me pretty regularly after a couple of days of running with a lot of tabs open, IE doesn't - but IE crashes randomly in the usual windows app fashion sometimes instead. This is on my office PC, my home PC and my laptop, with zero plugins. Overall, I prefer the less frequent IE crashes, but am still currently using firefox a little more than IE. I wish I could magically merge the good parts of both and be rid of the annoying bugs in both but until I can, I swap between them depending on what I am doing.

I've been giving IE7 a try the past few days and I have to say things are running pretty smoothly so far, no crashes, quicker loading times.

You might be able to Jim, FF2.0 is scheduled to be released Tuesday, which will be Wednesday for us.
Hope the improvements swing the balance in Modzilla's favour again.

I should have added a link...

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What Tanaka said^^..I have been so impressed by IE7 I have made it my default browser for now and imported all my bookmarks across from FF. I dunno but it sort of looks 'cleaner' to me in some way, even the text looks sharper. Is that possible? or is it just me being a silly old fart?

:)

Text now has ClearType - the crap that you use on laptop screens etc.

^^^ heh IE7 uses just as much memory as FF.

Err, no it doesn't - it uses substantially less, FF usage before IE7 was around 120-150megs, IE is using 50-70.

If you dig FF then yeh for sure use it, I prefer IE7 now, got tabs, got bookmarks/rss, does the job fast, and effectively.

If i want to debug stuff or develop, just hook the process using VS2005.

Also just read an interesting article about what exactly happens when IE7 ask you to 'validate' your operatng system. Is IE7 spying on me? Might be one for the paranoid amongst us to read.

Err, no it doesn't - it uses substantially less, FF usage before IE7 was around 120-150megs, IE is using 50-70.

I got the opposite. It depends on the site I guess.

before FF7 for sure.

I haven't really been a fan of the Final Fantasy series. I find the fighting scenes rather dull. Plus more sequels than Madden :/

I am well aware of all the points you rase Monkey_Magic.

oh yeah? are you aware of this? ,,|.

comma comma pipe full stop

I just wish there was a noscript/adblock plugin for opera so I could finally stop using IE/FF all together

there isn't one?

seems like a pretty basic feature lacking in the browser that has everything

your momma is lacking, ahahah pwnd

wow bam you would never see that comin'