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This year, Airsoft Australia representative John C. Hanlon announced on the association’s website that their proposal for legislative and regulatory changes within Queensland had been passed by the Ministers Weapons Review Committee. The changes along with recommendations from the Australian Police Ministers Council have bee forwarded to the Minister for approval. Hanlon states that from the information he has received the new legislation could be enacted as early as December 2008.

I remember in grade 6 some dumbarse brought an airsoft handgun to camp and kept shooting the girls with it... Got suspended and the gun confiscated.

I look forward to getting an airsoft sniper rifle, though.. s*** looks cash.


Also since it's only coming in effect in QLD(?), every hardcore airsoft guy in Aus is going to come up here and strut around with their "serious business" army camo on.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/krdshrk/Airsoft/IMG_9438.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/krdshrk/Airsoft/IMG_9811.jpg
Same guy;
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd225/filforce5/IMG_8870.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd225/filforce5/IMG_9006.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd225/filforce5/IMG_8871.jpg
http://www.scionvip.com/gallery/gallery/event_coverage/scion_vip_events/2007/scion_vip_nhra_etown_fallnationals_10-7-07/0308.jpg

f*** yeah. I remember one of my first ever thread on here was about airsoft. Il buy one just to shoot at people that cant drive or park properly.

I'm not that beautiful greasy.

February 28, 2008

so any recent updates?

airsoft = air rifles = pellet guns?? so many names...

last edited by Martz at 06:13:06 26/Aug/08

sif this will ever happen

Paintball or bust.

Ignore this post. I can't delete it cause Ausgamers sux

thats insane, if it becomes legal i will eat my hat

always wished we could play that game!

I had one once, spring inside broke :(

Was like getting stung by a hornet :)
Used to enjoy waking up lounge lizards whose bare feet were hanging over the end of the lounge with it after a party :p

Is airsoft cheaper than paintball? Do they use ball bearings or some kind of plastic pellet?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airsoft

so it's not like an air rifle? or it is? just its ammo is 'softer' being plastic?

air rifles are actual rifles, as in the barrel of the gun is rifled.

seriously, what type of idiot puts pouches on the front of his webbing?

obviously someone who has never had to dive on their stomach

stupid fatboy

oh, and by the way - although i know of the submission to the minister, there is no other info online to support any update. Airsoft Australia was shut down while the owner of the website / club did other things with their life.

Although i would like nothing more than to take a steyr and shoot Jim in the pussy, i highly doubt that replica automatic weapons would be made legal in the ultra liberal left wing queensland area.

i highly doubt that replica automatic weapons would be made legal in the ultra liberal left wing queensland area

are you talking about the same queensland which elected like 15 one nation MPs?

Eagerly awaiting the police shootings of people carrying replica pistols.

I reckon, cops got sus on my mate holding an electric screwdriver for putting together pc's.

awesome airsoft is like RP-skirmish

Hey I have an idea... If you're into playing soldier, how about you go become a soldier instead of being a fat asian who dresses up and plays with toys?

Seriously though, I reckon somebody is going to get shot for carrying one of these around : /

just to clarify fat asian is not phooks.

Seriously though, I reckon somebody is going to get shot for carrying one of these around : /

they'll deserve it

paintball and airsoft are the hobbies of societies rejects, just like martial arts and tabletop RPG's

just to clarify fat asian is not phooks.

he is now

paintball and airsoft are the hobbies of societies rejects, just like martial arts and tabletop RPG's

sounds like someone got bullied as a child by an airsoft wielding gamemaster who happens to know judo

paintball and airsoft are the hobbies of societies rejects, just like martial arts and tabletop RPG's

HAHAHHAHHA

I'm going to get one of these just to shoot geko's.

=)x(=eLeMeNt=)x(=

chub prolly knows something about this.
chub, what's the go huh?

paintball and airsoft are the hobbies of societies rejects, just like martial arts and tabletop RPG's

Yeah I just can't help but laugh at caucasian professional martial artists. You just know they're either some sort of self-hating otaku or some d******* who got picked on as a kid so they learned martial arts to 'defend themselves'. IMO, people that get picked on tend to deserve it.

http://yarp.motivatedphotos.com/uploads/2008/7/17/633518816417947259-Airsoft---Requiring-high-moral-values-and-gentlemanly-conduct---Motivational-Military-Poster-t2.jpg

paintball and airsoft are the hobbies of societies rejects

this is code for 'i don't play paintball because it hurts too much'

didn't einstien work for one of those paintball mobs?

draw from that what you will

http://www.paratrooper.net/commo/Uploads/Images/146462ee-ffe7-485d-8160-bf76.jpg

still calling bulls*** on this one

anyone found any other sources?

http://libertywhinge.com/2008/02/28/airsoft-to-become-legal-in-australia/

yeh im like 99% sure it will become legal

one of my friends who has a license for them now says they will be made alotttttt easier to own

wait so some guy who can't even maintain his web presence has some how been more successful at repealing the 1996 gun laws than 12 years of lobbying by gun enthusiasts, farmers and other nut jobs.

yeah, no.

"wait so some guy who can't even maintain his web presence has some how been more successful at repealing the 1996 gun laws than 12 years of lobbying by gun enthusiasts, farmers and other nut jobs.

yeah, no."

just pick on the new kid why dont you

i remember playing army as a kid. you'd shoot a guy but he'd say "no you died by stepping on my mine" and you'd say "no way you died from my mo'f***ing sniper rifle" and he'd be all like " bitch, get outta here, im wearing bullet proof armor" and you'd be like "im wearing mine proof reebok pumps yo" and he'd be like "oh snap!" that s*** was fun when you were 10...

when you were 10.

...

10,

i wouldn't mind a bb awp though, shoot bats with it for no reason. I remember strex pulling his spring loaded deagle out at that one qgl, i shat bricks.

does seem kind of rp though

maplist:

de_yourlife
es_reality

some guy who can't even maintain his web presence

give him a break, he probably got a new train-set or something

I'm actually quite excited about Airsoft becoming legal here in Queensland. I've played paintball and it's a lot safer and less expensive then paint ball, it's great exercise and rather then just sitting at the computer and shooting at AI, you actually get to experience simulated combat with all the dirt, scratches and hits that come with it. I'm an avid gamer and while I enjoy playing FPSs in general, actually being able to hold an Airsoft and hit something because of skill rather then "mouse tweekage" is something I look forward to. Oh and those "pudgy" boys dressed in Khaki uniforms won't be so pudgy after a few months of carrying all that equipment around. I am with Airsoft Australia and we have done all we can at the moment. We are just waiting for the bill to be passed in December and then once the bill has passed the website will come out of hiatus with all the specifics and procedures involved in obtaining a license and where to buy your equipment from. I can't wait :P...

wouldn't get your hopes up - there is no reference online to anything the original post talks about. i highly doubt this one will come through, hence im moving to America

http://libertywhinge.com/2008/09/20/airsoft-australia-an-update/

We are just waiting for the bill to be passed in December

What bill? Nothing has been introduced yet as the QLD legislation website does not list any Bills remotely related to making Airsoft legal. I call shenanigans.

See, Twisted's link says it all.

last edited by Triamks at 21:08:02 28/Sep/08

Even if it is perfectly safe, no politician in this age of terrorism and such is going to introduce a bill to soften firearm laws, its just not gonna happen.

Why would they go out on a limb for a small community of people that want it changed?

We are just waiting for the bill to be passed in December

What bill? Nothing has been introduced yet as the QLD legislation website does not list any Bills remotely related to making Airsoft legal. I call shenanigans.

See, Twisted's link says it all. last edited by Triamks at 21:08:02 28/Sep/08

I don't want to sound like a politician here but, I'm gonna get right on this. I've been a member for over a year and a half now and as far as I knew, they were telling us the truth about Airsoft regulation. I'm going to write EMails and do some calls to find out what's happening. I will be very disappointed and annoyed if they lied to me and if they really didn't do anything about it, I will. I don't care what it takes i'm going to get the government to look at Airsoft the way they should, as a sport. And just a little note to anyone thinking of using an Airsoft to commit a crime, I will make sure the penalties for doing so will be just as harsh (if not more harsh) as committing the crime with a real weapon.

yeah, you go girl!

paintball is fun enough for me, especially going for bare skin targets.

yeah, you go girl!

Ah... thanks. *scratches head* I guess...

paintball is fun enough for me, especially going for bare skin targets.

Yeah but you can crack ribs and kill a person with paintballs. They hit too hard and have too much of a surface area. BB's are 8mm, have less surface area so do less damage and are way more cheap then actual paintballs. My friend almost had a breathing fit when he got hit in the chest with a paintball. Don't get me wrong, BBs hurt, but they don't crack ribs and don't leave as serious bruising as a paintball does.

hulk, you arn't by any chance a 130kilo security guard are you ?

hulk, you arn't by any chance a 130kilo security guard are you ?

LOL Close, I am 130 Kilos of someone who wanted to be (along with pilot, SWAT, police officer and various other exciting jobs) a security guard. Now i'm just going to have to settle with whatever job comes my way and the feel of an Airsoft... when I get all that organised.

Even if it is perfectly safe, no politician in this age of terrorism and such is going to introduce a bill to soften firearm laws, its just not gonna happen.

Why would they go out on a limb for a small community of people that want it changed?

That's the problem. People think of Airsofts as firearms. But they aren't. This is one hurdle that has always blocked Airsoft from Australia. I used to think that I wanted and Air Rifle to plink cans in my backyard. But when I heard of airsoft it was then I knew that an Airsoft was the answer. It's a lot safer, a lot cheaper and a lot more fun. We don't want easier access to firearms, I agree that nobody should own an assault rifle but Airsofts are not weapons and while nothing is completely safe; they are a lot safer then Air Rifles.

de_yourlife
es_reality

See what you did there.

and lmnt = dave???

I believe anybody should be able to own an assault rifle, except you, you and you

I believe anybody should be able to own an assault rifle, except you, you and you

Who? Who? and Who? Assault rifles have no purpose other then to kill something. Where as semi-autos and bolt actions are great for target shooting... and we are going completely off of subject here. Airsofts are not Assault anythings let alone assault rifles. They look like guns, which is part of why they are so popular, but they are not designed to kill people. "But you can kill someone with an Airsoft", you can also kill someone with a baseball bat but it is still a piece of sports equipment. If you tried to prohibit the sales of a Baseball bat, there would be an uproar but because people have been made to be afraid of firearms in this country; anything the even slightly looks like a gun is vilified. Yes they fire BB's. Yes they can hurt if you are hit. But if they are regulated, then people can have fun with them and who knows, maybe the obesity epidemic might slow down or even stop altogether because people are experiencing the fun of an FPS in real life; rather then sitting in front of a computer.

CURE OBESITY.

SHOOT FAT KIDS.

So you're for euthanasia then phooks?

CyberHulk, love your enthusiasm. You seem a little on the naive side though.

The government won't even bother with R ratings for computer games, as if they will bother to look at Airsoft weapons of mass destruction.

Just be less of a girl and whip out the paintballs.

So you're for euthanasia then phooks?

No, no. It isn't voluntary.

last edited by Tollaz0r! at 07:04:08 29/Sep/08

Seriously dude, its not gonna happen. I personally would like to see them made legal.

The issue is they look like real guns and shot stuff that could potentialy kill (even if that chance is 1 in a million) so no politician is going to go near them.

Can you imagine the goody two shoes coming out of the woodwork if it got brought up, I can see the current affair show already "politicins wants ultra realistic killer weapons legalised" cut to a shot of a mother wanted to protect her kids from violence but now they can just go out and buy these "killer weapons"

If can even see a time when they outlaw paintball guns.

Seriously dude, its not gonna happen. I personally would like to see them made legal.

The issue is they look like real guns and shot stuff that could potentialy kill (even if that chance is 1 in a million) so no politician is going to go near them.

Can you imagine the goody two shoes coming out of the woodwork if it got brought up, I can see the current affair show already "politicins wants ultra realistic killer weapons legalised" cut to a shot of a mother wanted to protect her kids from violence but now they can just go out and buy these "killer weapons"

If can even see a time when they outlaw paintball guns.

I'm sick and tired of people being overly negative. "It's not gonna happen..." Not with an attitude like that. I'm going to fight this and i'm going to win. You can either help or just be a bunch of forum baggers who do nothing but bitch and complain. This is something i've been waiting for ages to happen, something that i'm passionate about. You can call me a girl but ask yourself this. Which would I rather get hit in the balls with? A paintball that can not only make me impotent but turn me into a girl with a high pitched voice, or an 8mm BB that will hurt for about 10 minutes but then I can get back into it. It is ridiculous that we are denied this sport and I will make sure they see that. If the a Current Affair program wants to get in on this then i'll go to the opposing show and plead my case (any reason to bag the opposition) and then go one up and go on Rove. I'll even write the PM and tell him how allowing airsoft will reduce the obesity problem we have in this country. I will fight this til the end because I don't just want this, I need this...

I call a petition!

cyberhulk is surely a 30 year old virgin that has played too much counter strike

Is this some sort of weird viral marketing ?

cyberhulk is surely a 30 year old virgin that has played too much counter strike

So what if I am a virgin... LMAO I'm no where near 30, and my god are you so far into the grip of gaming that that's all you can say? I'm trying to have a serious conversation here and you decide to become a forum bagger and cite petty immature insults. Next thing you are going to say "I'm so mauch l3373r then you OMG ROFL LOL" Just how old are you paveway?

I'm failing to see how a very niche market would reduce the obesity problem, maybe 0.5% of obese kids will want to play it enough to help manage their weight and I'm willing to bet that is a high percentage.

Also, most people wear a box when playing paintball for those inevitable shots to the sack. If you are bitching about the pain, why not play laser skirmish? No pain there.

I think that it should be legal to play, as long as the Airsoft guns are clearly imitation and wouldn't fool the majority of the population. I think you are going about this very wrong if you are thinking you could get on a show like Rove.

You could always become a politician and work on it that way...

Next thing you are going to say "I'm so mauch l3373r then you OMG ROFL LOL" Just how old are you paveway?

uhoh..
shoudnt have said that.

haha, rad thread

Paintball is a sport.

Airsoft is f***ing roleplaying.

Pansy.

guys, he's serious about this

show some respect, he's tring to have a serious conversation on qgl



lol

stop your forum bagging already pave, i'm tiring of your bitching and complaining.

test

I'm failing to see how a very niche market would reduce the obesity problem, maybe 0.5% of obese kids will want to play it enough to help manage their weight and I'm willing to bet that is a high percentage.

Also, most people wear a box when playing paintball for those inevitable shots to the sack. If you are bitching about the pain, why not play laser skirmish? No pain there.

I think that it should be legal to play, as long as the Airsoft guns are clearly imitation and wouldn't fool the majority of the population. I think you are going about this very wrong if you are thinking you could get on a show like Rove.

You could always become a politician and work on it that way...

I don't want "laser" skirmish. It's not about the pain. I don't just want to skirmish. I want to be able to safely do target shooting in my own backyard. Air Rifles are dangerous full stop. They are pretty much a firearm without the fire. An Airsoft doesn't have the penetrating power of a gun/air rifle, are cheap to buy ammo for and fun to use. In order to make sure people don't mistake them for real guns you have flared tips (orange coloured flash hiders and tips) and of course common sense that if you don't see fire and they don't go "bang" like a gun, then it's not a gun. Hlf the fun of it is that they are replicas of guns, but it all comes down to regulation. Like I said earlier, we don't want kids to get their hands on these and you will require a license to own one. Anyone caught committing a crime with an Airsoft will be severely punished for it. There are always going to be idiots who spoil it for everyone but it's up to the law makers to make it difficult for the idiots to do it. And as for becoming a politician... I don't sniff seats, so that's out.

Paintball is a sport.

Airsoft is f***ing roleplaying.

Pansy.

Airsoft is as much a sport if not more. It's just a lot safer and more fun. Unlike paintball you can have a custom Airsoft, you can re-enact famous battles, you can make full days at more then half the price and it's a lot less messy. I've played paintball and it's not all it's cracked up to be. I've been hit in the face , neck, gut and arm joint. It means yo have to rest for 30 odd minutes before you can move your arm again and that's play time gone to waste. Just because you can't hurt yourself as much in Airsoft as you can in Paintball, doesn't mean it's not sport. It just means its a safer one.

f*** you're a retard

and of course common sense that if you don't see fire and they don't go "bang" like a gun, then it's not a gun

mate you don't need to walk into a bank and fire your gun for them to think you have a gun in your hand


i don't have time to go through all of your ramble

dip s***

you can re-enact famous battles

Like when moses split the red sea ?

its better this way

Unlike paintball you can have a custom Airsoft, you can re-enact famous battles

like the drive by of notorious b.i.g.?

Or that movie where they ripped off a convience store ...

Unlike paintball you can have a custom Airsoft, you can re-enact famous battles



like the drive by of notorious b.i.g.?

im thinking more like Chopper v Neville Bartoss



NEVILLE, WHERES YOUR f***ING CASH MATE? *pew pew*

hahah, ok now i'm sold

So if you saw off the flared tip, then it looks pretty much like a real rifle? No, if you really want these things, they will have to be .. pink. Yup. That'll do it.

i don't think they used pink guns at operation market garden, so that just wouldn't do

Its ok pave... you can buy black spray paint

you just don't understand obes, when you passionate about this kind of thing.

I'm sick and tired of people being overly negative. "It's not gonna happen..." Not with an attitude like that.

Not overly negative, just realistic. Dont get me wrong, airsoft guns look pretty fun and i'd support them being legal.

Write a letter to every politicians in QLD, see if just one supports you and is willing to introduce a bill, guarantee you wont even get one.

So if you saw off the flared tip, then it looks pretty much like a real rifle? No, if you really want these things, they will have to be .. pink. Yup. That'll do it.

There are always going to be idiots that spoil it for the legitimate users of Airsoft but we shouldn't be living in a society that caters to the idiots. Like I said before, if you use an Airsoft in a crime you will be severely punished. In order to get an Airsoft you'll need a license and your Airsoft will be registered. One thing I don't get is why everyone here is trying to bring me down. "Just face the facts, it won't happen..." Why not? Crazier things have happend. John "I like to wear Kevlar" Howard is no longer in control, It's been over a decade since the port arthur massacre and gun toys are rampant again. Now's the time for change and I'll fight this to the last breath. I don't need a bunch of negatives telling me "It's not going to happen".

f*** you're a retard

and of course common sense that if you don't see fire and they don't go "bang" like a gun, then it's not a gun

mate you don't need to walk into a bank and fire your gun for them to think you have a gun in your hand


i don't have time to go through all of your ramble

dip s***

I was talking about use in your backyard and why are you acting so immature? "f*** you're a retard". I'm a retard because I want something? Because i'm passionate about something? So Martin Luther King was a Retard for wanting equal rights? "Give it up Martin, it'll never happen". The people who change things through history have always come across negative people like you, my cause might not be as just as equal rights but nothing is impossible and i'd appreciate you keeping your swear words and insults to yourself. I didn't come here to be insulted, I came here to have a serious chat with mature gamers like myself... maybe I came to the wrong forum.

you're comparing equal rights between races to wanting toy guns

good one, retard.

I didn't come here to be insulted, I came here to have a serious chat with mature gamers like myself... maybe I came to the wrong forum.

You can definatly have a serious chat on QGL, but there is always a guarantee that you will be insulted.

By all means go ahead and lobby the guys in power and hopefully you can get things changed. I was just letting you know that in the current political climate of terrorism and such you are gonna have a hard time getting your point accross.

but we shouldn't be living in a society that caters to the idiots.

Im afraid that we will be living in that society for a long time to come.

Why are there a law regarding motorbike helmets, Seatbelts etc? you guessed it, for the idiots.

yes, this all seems like standard qgl fare, everybody, as you were;

Why is the virgin calling us all immature ?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/Martin_Luther_King_-_March_on_Washington.jpg

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their gun, but by the content of their roleplaying character.

haha nf

"Give it up Martin, it'll never happen"

They were right.

you're comparing equal rights between races to wanting toy guns

good one, retard.

Once again with the insults, I already stated the fact that my cause was no where near as great as Mr Kings. But I am using it an an example because there was a time where getting equal rights was impossible but he hung in there and it happened. If you can't bring anything relevant to the current topic, you should go and annoy some one else. I think there's a topic with the heading : "OMFG Counter-Strike is the best game ever and I will continue to play it even when everyone else has moved on..." Go and annoy him.

but we shouldn't be living in a society that caters to the idiots.

Im afraid that we will be living in that society for a long time to come.

Why are there a law regarding motorbike helmets, Seatbelts etc? you guessed it, for the idiots.

Sorry to correct you here but they are safety devices, idiots aren't the only ones who get in car crashes.

so which battle do you want to re-enact?

idiots aren't the only ones who get in car crashes.

you dont quite get it do you, its the fact that there has to be a law to make some people who ride motorbikes where helmets, why else does the law exist, its quite obviously safer if you have an accident and the only person its protecting is yourself.

Paveway, The DDR dance off of 5 years ago ... khel vs. bad!

Not sure we need guns for that.

what's the point of doing 'target practice' with an airsoft gun anyways? what's it practice for? you may as well just flick rubber bands at a target.

if airsoft really wanted acceptance of thier product they should make them not look like real guns... i think that'd be a good start.

obes, maybe that could be resolved with a krump?

if airsoft really wanted acceptance of thier product they should make them not look like real guns

that just wouldn't make the battle re-enactments realistic, de_dust just wouldn't look the same

last edited by paveway at 15:20:28 30/Sep/08

so which battle do you want to re-enact?

I'd be more for the swat tactical simulations. But if I had the cash for it i'd set up a field full of the greatest operations of WWI and WWII. The landings of Galipolli, operation market garden, Normandy. But for the time being, when Airsoft finally hit's our shores, it'll be modern day ops and SWAT situations that'll be on top of the list.

idiots aren't the only ones who get in car crashes.

you dont quite get it do you, its the fact that there has to be a law to make some people who ride motorbikes where helmets, why else does the law exist, its quite obviously safer if you have an accident and the only person its protecting is yourself.

You're right about that. Except you don't need to wear a seat belt if your car was made before a certain year without seat belts... Back on subject, I am actually sick and tired of the 10% of the worlds population that do these stupid things and spoil it for everyone. But like I said it will be regulated and if someone steps outta line they'll trip over the legal complications and that will make people think twice before doing it again. There will be "teething" problems to begin with but if everyone gave up because of these we wouldn't have half the tech we have today and we definitely wouldn't have gone to the moon. "Ok so once we get up there, there is no oxygen?... Screw this. Let's build a yaught".

So you're comparing airsoft guns to going to the moon?

haha, just kidding champ, you keep shooting (wildly) for that rainbow.

what's the point of doing 'target practice' with an airsoft gun anyways? what's it practice for? you may as well just flick rubber bands at a target.

if airsoft really wanted acceptance of thier product they should make them not look like real guns... i think that'd be a good start.

What are they suppose to look like? Boats? They make clear versions so that people realise they aren't real, they add flare tips as an indicator and if you see someone firing on in the back yard and there's no noise coming out of it; that's a dead give away. They look like guns because it's the best design to make it comfortable to aim. I like target shooting. Being able to hit the target from a distance, while it only has a few real life applications, is fun. Do you play FPSs? What's an FPS practice for? You're not gaining anything out of it except fun and that's what this is all about.

obes, maybe that could be resolved with a krump?

if airsoft really wanted acceptance of thier product they should make them not look like real guns

that just wouldn't make the battle re-enactments realistic, de_dust just wouldn't look the samelast edited by paveway at 15:20:28 30/Sep/08

LMAO I'm sorry Paveway. I seem to be getting mixed signals from you... are you for or against this?

Paveway is for anything that has a euphemism for the cock.

Big fake gun? Big fake penis.

Paveway is for anything that has a euphemism for the cock.

Big fake gun? Big fake penis.

ah... I'll sit this one out.

What's an FPS practice for?

getting older and having kids, then them coming up and saying "dad have a go at this new game i got with me, i bet i can beat u".. and then owning his noob little ass and laughing =)

move to america if u want to shoot guns cyber... plenty of random backyard target practice there... or drive-bies i think the street term is.

What's an FPS practice for?

getting older and having kids, then them coming up and saying "dad have a go at this new game i got with me, i bet i can beat u".. and then owning his noob little ass and laughing =)

move to america if u want to shoot guns cyber... plenty of random backyard target practice there... or drive-bies i think the street term is.

I don't want to shoot guns... I want to own an Airsoft. Airsofts are not guns. They are not designed to kill a person. Like I said in a previous post, I used to think I wanted an Air Rifle to use for target shooting but then found out about Airsoft and how much safer they were. While the land of the free may sound like a great place to live for you, I love Australia and wouldn't leave it for any other country. I'm not asking for weaker gun laws, I'm not wanting to own an assault rifle; I'm trying to regulate Airsoft under a new licensing system so that I can get this sport up and running. I realize that many people think of Airsofts as guns and that's a hurdle I need to jump; to make people realize that just because they look like guns doesn't mean they are guns.

lifestory man.... if u want to get an airsoft, get one ....

they could make them look like supa-soakers... still gun-shaped for the aiming & they are legal... just gotta make them kiddy fluro colours so that no one could possibly mistake them for a real firearm. or you could get a spud-gun *pew*pew*

they could make them look like supa-soakers... still gun-shaped for the aiming & they are legal... just gotta make them kiddy fluro colours so that no one could possibly mistake them for a real firearm. or you could get a spud-gun *pew*pew*

LMAO Spud guns are way too messy and I honestly would be fine if it looked like a super soaker, just as long as you could aim accurately with it and it either had some kind of ammo storage in it IE magazine. Like I said, they make clear ones and they are more then appropriate for what I want. also a spud gun has bugger all range and the ammo rots as well...

he was joking you half wit

<6:16> -nf- pave
<6:16> -nf- $10 says hes fat
<6:16> -nf- with a name like cyberhulk

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after 6 pages of ppl paying him out he still doenst understand no1 cares and everyone is making fun of him... some ppl never learn paveway

lifestory man.... if u want to get an airsoft, get one ....

Believe it or not, I actually have the only legal Airsoft in Australia. It's not as powerful, looks like a browning 9mm with a silencer and everything, but it's not even as powerful as a spud gun. It's a spring load with the "forgotten" ammo type. It's pretty much a kids toy. I bought it from a disposals site that situated at the gold coast http://www.collectorsarmoury.com.au/Collectors%20Armoury/default.html . Unfortunately until I get this law passed, this is the best I have.

why don't you post a pic of you in your cammo gear ?

so we know how passionate you are about it

he was joking you half wit

<6:16> -nf- pave
<6:16> -nf- $10 says hes fat
<6:16> -nf- with a name like cyberhulk

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Yes, I do have a weight problem. But I don't see how this factors into it. Once again with the insults, makes me think that's all you're good for. Sc00bs, not everyone is making fun of me. At the moment it's Paveway, Ironic beacuse he was the first, and you. Like I said earlier, if you don't want to contribute go and bag someone else.

wow, you really aren't very good at this internet thing

So he's fat, a virgin, and wants to own a toy gun.

Be wary brisbane, this man will make a difference.

Once again with the insults, makes me think that's all you're good for

If you keep replying to them, then it's what YOU are good for.

I'm all for AirSoft as a sport thing like paintball (which is awesome fun, if you haven't tried it you should), but I don't like the idea of people being able to buy these things if they look too much like real guns, but even if they didn't, the idea of projectile weapons in the hands of the sorts of people that think they're fun to take out in public near other people's eyes would turn me off considerably.

imagine how many bitches he must have after him seeing as he owns the FIRST legal airsoft.

if i was a chick i would juice up instantly just thinking about the first guy to own a legal airsoft

why don't you post a pic of you in your cammo gear ?

imo dressed in a terrorist outfit (greazy can probably supply one).

Once again with the insults, makes me think that's all you're good for

If you keep replying to them, then it's what YOU are good for.

I'm all for AirSoft as a sport thing like paintball (which is awesome fun, if you haven't tried it you should), but I don't like the idea of people being able to buy these things if they look too much like real guns, but even if they didn't, the idea of projectile weapons in the hands of the sorts of people that think they're fun to take out in public near other people's eyes would turn me off considerably.

It seems like no-one is actually "listening" to what I am trying to get done here. Not everyone is going to be able to get one. If you have a criminal record, denied. If you have ever been admitted to a mental institution, denied. If you are caught waving it around in public or using it in a criminal act, you will be dealt with severely. If no-none wants to have a serious convo about this, then you might as well get this topic deleted because it's taking up valuable space on the server.

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Not everyone is going to be able to get one. If you have a criminal record, denied.

Damn, why dont they just pass laws that do this for all types of weapons, us non criminals would be safe.
Its so obvious, our politicians must be stupid not to think of it

It seems like no-one is actually "listening" to what I am trying to get done here. Not everyone is going to be able to get one. If you have a criminal record, denied. If you have ever been admitted to a mental institution, denied. If you've ever spoken to a girl, denied. If you can run up a flight of stairs without breaking a sweat, denied. If your calves are defined as separate from your ankles, denied. If If you are caught waving it around in public or using it in a criminal act, you will be dealt with severely. If no-none wants to have a serious convo about this, then you might as well get this topic deleted because it's taking up valuable space on my social calendar.

Cyberhulk want change of venue, fat virgin cannot get fair hearing on qgl.

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Top thread will read again.

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It seems like no-one is actually "listening" to what I am trying to get done here. Not everyone is going to be able to get one.

I think people are listening, but they just don't care, because the vast majority of people (here, at least) don't want to own replica firearms! I suspect your proselytizing efforts are wasted in this community for that reason. I certainly don't care if they're available, and I certainly don't particularly want to see tax dollars going to having to support infrastructure (like licensing and regulatory systems) just so people can buy what are, in effect, toy guns.

(I think they're cool though and would like to have one just for target shooting around the house, but I know most people aren't responsible enough with dangerous objects and would rather noone have them even if it means I have to dip out)

This thread is almost too good to be true.

CyberHulk has to be one of the better new members attracted by Google lately based on entertainment value alone.

I'm not quite sure that CyberHULK understands how much work (and $'s) would be involved to get these things legalized.

Comments like this:

If you are caught waving it around in public or using it in a criminal act, you will be dealt with severely.

That alone would take considerable time, effort and money to implement and that is only a part of what would need to be done.

And really, all that work for a very small minority of the population combined with the many problems that it would face it just an unrealistic expectation.

If you have ever been admitted to a mental institution, denied.

Sorry had to be asked..

How do you propose to get one then?

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So what is the use of having a thread like this if you are not going to take it seriously. This is suppose to be a place where you can post your views on this subject without being bagged. This reminds me about another group of people who were, and still are, misunderstood. Gamers. Just because we play violent games people thought we'd end up the same way, but they're wrong. Just like you're judging me for wanting to own an Airsoft. I thought you guys would at least have the common decency to treat me with respect because you know what's it like to be frowned upon for the things you do for fun. But I guess gamers aren't all they are cracked up to be and I actually feel ashamed to be one. BTW, I'm fat because there's no real activity that I can do that's fun yet active, Airsoft would help rectify that situation. I'm a virgin because I haven't found the right girl yet, yes there is actually a decent guy left in the world who won't screw anything with two breasts and a heartbeat. And up until today I was proud to be a gamer. I guess I posted into the one forum where 60% of the worlds idiots decided to lurk...

This is suppose to be a place where you can post your views on this subject without being bagged.

I am not sure where you got that idea

I guess I posted into the one forum where 60% of the worlds idiots decided to lurk...

pro forum tip - don't proselytize your ideas if you're a new member of an existing established community unless you can do it a) without getting offended and b) without responding to people giving you s*** for your idea.

There's a few people (like me and Tollaz0r just from a 2 second look) that have raised reasonable objections to your ideas but instead of responding to those comments, you're focusing on the personal ones, which just opens you up to more crap, which, as you are discovering, quickly leads into a downward spiral.

Now, I'm explaining this to you because I think its important people learn how to conduct themselves on the Internet to avoid situations like, well, like this!

So if you want to keep arguing airsoft, you'll find a reasonable discourse, but you'll have to just filter out all the non-relevant comments and choose to ignore them. I'm not going to stop you though, because it appears to be entertaining for the mob, like watching a slave get torn apart by lions, I guess.

This is suppose to be a place where you can post your views on this subject without being bagged.

I am not sure where you got that idea

I guess I posted into the one forum where 60% of the worlds idiots decided to lurk...

pro forum tip - don't proselytize your ideas if you're a new member of an existing established community unless you can do it a) without getting offended and b) without responding to people giving you s*** for your idea.

There's a few people (like me and Tollaz0r just from a 2 second look) that have raised reasonable objections to your ideas but instead of responding to those comments, you're focusing on the personal ones, which just opens you up to more crap, which, as you are discovering, quickly leads into a downward spiral.

Now, I'm explaining this to you because I think its important people learn how to conduct themselves on the Internet to avoid situations like, well, like this!

So if you want to keep arguing airsoft, you'll find a reasonable discourse, but you'll have to just filter out all the non-relevant comments and choose to ignore them. I'm not going to stop you though, because it appears to be entertaining for the mob, like watching a slave get torn apart by lions, I guess.

I've been a member of Ausgmers for at least 2 years now. I've never posted on these forums before and from the response I got here the people who use these forums are idiots (not all of you but quite a few). You saw my low post status and thought "Here's a Noob" or actually the Noobs have changed it to "Random" now, so that they can ignore being called a noob. Just one Question? Why aren't you telling the Idiots that they shouldn't be treating me like this? Rather then deal with the problem this society sets up quick fix laws, or in this case, puts the blame on the victim rather then dealing with the idiots directly. "All that's required for bad men to succeed is for good men to do nothing..." So are you going to waste your time bagging me out for "giving them material" or are you going to do the right thing and make sure the idiots don't rule this forum.

In the immortal words of Ford Prefect, I'm trying to baby, I'm trying to

i think its important people learn how to conduct themselves on the Internet

I have never laughed more at anything else in my life

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well now i know what proselytize means.


thanks Airsoft!

I'm a virgin because I haven't found the right girl yet, yes there is actually a decent guy left in the world who won't screw anything with two breasts and a heartbeat.

f*** its dice pretending to be someone new ... damn titty haters!

ps. the idea of 4 breasts is of interest I would never limit myself to 2.

I'm a virgin because I haven't found the right girl yet, yes there is actually a decent guy left in the world who won't screw anything with two breasts and a heartbeat.

you've been turning them down left right and centre?

And up until today I was proud to be a gamer.

no, probably not.

virgin tittie haters

is there anything worse

O, I'm slow, I just figured it out. The reason why he is ignoring the posts that actually try to discuss the topic and instead focus on the personal insult posts is because he is a Drama Queen.

Virgin fat tittie hating drama queen... its dice I am telling ya

Like trog said, just ignore the personal insults and they will go away, actually they probably wont go away, but anyway.

So back on topic, what have you actually done yourself to get Airsoft legalised? I dont think you have mentioned what you have done yourself.

Make an online petition, they always work.

I think a facebook group would do the trick

looks like there is already an online petition
Airsoft Petition

So back on topic, what have you actually done yourself to get Airsoft legalised?

abstinence.

BTW, I'm fat because there's no real activity that I can do that's fun yet active, Airsoft would help rectify that situation.

How do you know that Airsoft will be the answer? Yes, you own the first "legal" Airsoft Gun so you have some knowledge about it but, afaik, you haven't played it like you want to be able to play it yet. So again, how can you know this will be the answer?

Maybe sex could be the answer to your weight problem. After all, you seem to be able to pick and chose.

Also, you mentioned that paintballs slow you down for 10 minutes after being hit? You must be hypersensitive because they don't debilitate you that much. Harden up.

Legalising Airsoft = pyramid selling products (name escapes me).

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they don't debilitate you that much. Harden up

hes trying to, but he hasnt found an activity thats fun and active yet

or the right person to do it with

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LMAO Aint that the truth :P. Unfortunately online petitions aren't worth the paper they are written on. I have E-Mailed the Weapons licensing Bureau to find out who I have to talk to and what needs to be done. As soon as I get all the relevant information I'll start by making a plan (Who to contact first, who needs what paperwork etc.). Then It's simply a matter of playing the pieces right and then setting everything up. It might take a while but it'll be worth it in the end.

thats because they aren't written on paper LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL snap

gotta be a troll account

seriously

thats because they aren't written on paper LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL snap

WOW, you actually got the joke. Good for you *throws paveway a doggie biscuit* Now Sit. Roll over, play dead. Good boy.

you need the exercise more than me

you need the exercise more than me

*Paveway says while cleaning the potato crumbs off of his boxers*

Which would I rather get hit in the balls with? A paintball that can not only make me impotent but turn me into a girl with a high pitched voice, or an 8mm BB that will hurt for about 10 minutes but then I can get back into it.

Perhaps a refreshing cup of cement would help your cause? htfu

Which would I rather get hit in the balls with? A paintball that can not only make me impotent but turn me into a girl with a high pitched voice, or an 8mm BB that will hurt for about 10 minutes but then I can get back into it.

Perhaps a refreshing cup of cement would help your cause? htfu

That's already been said, don't just skim the first page and then post, noob.

noob.

ahhahaha

I stand by my comment ;)

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4581/p2809080846yf2.jpg

in the red shirt matey

so i stand by my comment :]

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in the red shirt matey

so i stand by my comment :]

Looks pink to me...

virgin, fat, drama queen, tit hater, and colour blind

you have it all going for you mate

you forgot airsoft enthusiast

virgin, fat, drama queen, tit hater, and colour blind

you have it all going for you mate

So you can dish it out, but you can't take it. Typical know it all coward. It's not even worth the keystrokes to type this reply...

Then f*** off already, jesus.

It's not even worth the keystrokes to type this reply

yet you did, so there for it was.

it's ok, the extra increase in heart rate by typing those keystrokes were worth it

if your calls made any sense at all, then i would feel like i have something to 'take' instead of having too much fun just dishing it out

like i dish it out to your mother

It's not even worth the keystrokes to type this reply

yet you did, so there for it was.

I'm just giving out what I get here, I didn't start this. I might actually keep this going for a while depending on how many times you guys repeat the same insults over and over again.

it's ok, the extra increase in heart rate by typing those keystrokes were worth it

if your calls made any sense at all, then i would feel like i have something to 'take' instead of having too much fun just dishing it out

like i dish it out to your mother

Maybe your Mamma could get involved, though I bet she already is.You gotta ask yourself one question. Why am I such a dick head? Answer, Your Mamma...

Who here thinks Paveway is not only a mammas boy but an absolute dick who's life is worth so little that he needs to belittle people to make himself feel bigger. I hope I didn't use too big a words there, iffin you want; I could drop the perty words and use stuperd ones.

Why am I such a dick head? Answer, Your Mamma...

What. The. f***.

That's the best insult you could come up with?

CyberHULK, if you're brain is even half as big as paveways forehead, I'd be hugely surprised.

that paveway guy is a total c***

pretty sure you're on your own there champ

normally big head jokes are the way to get at paveway

tease trog about bandennas

you'll be cool

that paveway guy is a total c***

Good to see you acknowledge that Paveway. The first step is admitting you have a problem.

CyberHULK is going to win this

regardless of how s*** his comebacks are, he will always have them.

Its like yelling at a big fat virgin drama queen colourblind tit-hating brick wall

I still think its dice.

I'm sick of all this hating and harsh comments on forums. stfu pls..

CyberHULK is going to win this

regardless of how s*** his comebacks are, he will always have them.

Its like yelling at a big fat virgin drama queen colourblind tit-hating brick wall

ah uh, a big fat virgin drama queen colourblind tit-hating Airsoft loving brick wall... Don't forget the Airsoft.

you ok big guy?

you ok big guy?

believe it or not, I'm actually having fun here. I've been in need of a good "Duel" for a while now. The past few months have been hell for me...

hahaha its like ur trying to pick a fight against a forum and ur losing... just like how u lose at life... and im sure ur no cs pro either.

how the f*** is airsoft going to get u fit? i mean unless ur doing army rolls and running for hrs apon hrs it aint going to do s***...

The past few months have been hell for me...

call up suicide hotline and ask for dorris i heard from fpot that she is very nice... or alternatively build a bridge and get over it ;)

I'm sick of all this hating and harsh comments on forums. stfu pls..

awww... is someone a bit upset about all the fat ppl calls ;)

It's not even worth the keystrokes to type this reply...

all this physical activity tiring you out big guy?

he doesnt want to waste his energy typing replies when he could b using his energy to do army rolls and espionage missions in his backyard...

hahaha its like ur trying to pick a fight against a forum and ur losing... just like how u lose at life... and im sure ur no cs pro either.

how the f*** is airsoft going to get u fit? i mean unless ur doing army rolls and running for hrs apon hrs it aint going to do s***...

The past few months have been hell for me...

call up suicide hotline and ask for dorris i heard from fpot that she is very nice... or alternatively build a bridge and get over it ;)

You shouldn't joke about suicide, I might just actually do it. In the past 2 months, I've had a car accident in which I lost the car, lost my job, my computer is dying and I still haven't put a dent in the massive 10,000 dollar debt I owe my parents. My life is pathetic and the one ray of hope sticking out from the clouds was Airsoft. But you know what you go ahead and you keep on saying what your saying, maybe i'll finally get the inspiration to do it. Oh and I used to kick ass at CS, back when it was a Mod and a damn good one.

Sounds to me like you don't have the time or means to be entertaining the idea of a hobby like airsoft

f*** me, give it a rest - tit-hater.

and don't put the guilt of your pathetic life on this forum of random people. because we don't care.

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f*** me, give it a rest - tit-hater.

and don't put the guilt of your pathetic life on this forum of random people. because we don't care.last edited by infi at 17:59:47 01/Oct/08

And that's the problem with the world. No-one cares. No-one gives a s*** so we have war, we have disease we have all this stupid bulls*** that could be solved if people gave a s*** about other people, but no. You know what, f*** you all. f*** this world, f*** this forum and f*** everyone else from now on... I'm gonna become the biggest a****** in the world because obviously nice guys do f***ing finish last. No more helping anyone out, no more worrying about the world, no more worring about you dicks. I'm going to smash my computer and give up everything and if you are getting any enter-f***ing-tainment out of this then f*** you, because you've destroyed any last hope that something good will ever happen in my stupid f***ing life. I hope you admin guys are taking down the dicks names here becasue they are what's f***ed up about the world and if something is not done about them then s*** you guys are just as f***ing bad as them. and in case I didn't use up my swearing quota f*** YOU!

Pics or lying.

ok no more off topic stuff starting now

On topic, I am completely apathetic towards the issue of Airsoft legalization in Australia.

Yeah guys stay on topic.

That piano vid was boring.

literally LOL'ed

This space for rent.

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