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Topic: hypnotherapy???
Arize
Posts: 44
Location: Queensland
going to see a hypnotherapist this week. anyone ever been too one your thoughts?
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Reverend Evil™
Posts: 15443
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
Make sure your underpants are on the same way as when you arrived. Can never be too sure what the hell's going on when you're under their spell.
Imperial
Posts: 398
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Never been, always wanted to see if it was indeed true that they could put you in some kind of trance. So please post on your experience when you get back <:
qmass
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Imperial
Posts: 399
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
qmass, I'm guessing your saying hypnotherapy is bulls*** and/or a placebo. I dont understand why people think placebos are so bad?!?! Like medication, hypnotherapy, Regligion etc etc, if the placebo effect on the person is one of happiness and makes them feel a bit better about life then what can be so stupid about it?
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Arize
Posts: 45
Location: Queensland
im sorry. when did i say my life sucked?
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Arize
Posts: 46
Location: Queensland
have you ever been too one? if not i would seriously shutup. and i wasnt asking for some idiot to come in the post and start bitching about them i wanted people to come in the post if they had ever been too one before and were just curious about one???

GG!
Strange Rash
Posts: 706
Location:
I think qmass knows what he's talking about - he's probably read they were bulls*** in an article written by someone smarter than him.
Lunch
Posts: 929
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I went for smoking and it worked for me.

I had to try and not piss myself laughing during the middle of it, with some of the s*** she was saying and felt awake the entire time.

After it I was addicted to water for about a year, would sleep with a bottle next to my bed and everything lol, but only ever had a drag on a smoke once about 5 hours after being hypnotised after getting really s***ty at the then missus due to wanting one so much. It tasted like s*** and threw it away. Other than that never touched one since.

Sure it might be a placebo but either way I don't care, it worked and cost me bugger all in the grand scheme of things to what I was paying for a pack a day.

Arize
Posts: 47
Location: Queensland
mate did it for uni so he could stay up later and study and wouldn't feel awful in the morning. and from the grades he got. it looks promising. he said he could of stayed up till 3 in the morning got 4 hours sleep and felt amazing so. hopefully it will work out for me.
Arize
Posts: 48
Location: Queensland
wait... why did you get addicted to water?
Some Fat Bastard
Posts: 341
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
^ It was actually tequila but the hypnotist made him think it was water. He still drinks 4 litres of it a day now.
Lunch
Posts: 930
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
she replaced the nicotene addiction with water apparently.

Either way drinking 3 odd litres of water a day is good for me, well a bit better than a pack of smokes a day :)

it's funny, this was a few years ago, and I've gone from being a smoking couch potatoe to really into sports/fitness etc. Hypnosis was the best thing I ever did, but I would have to assume what works for 1 person, wouldn't for another.
infi
Posts: 7872
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you could die of water poisoning!
Spock
Posts: 676
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
its called drowning
Lunch
Posts: 931
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah but I'm a fkn legend at not having to break the seal when I hit the piss now because of it :)
Freewheelin
Posts: 1227
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i know several people that have become non smokers, someone that has stopped gambling, and someone that had hypnotherapy for weight loss. i went to a hypnotherapist to fix some social anxiety issues i had (barely left the house). now i can't stand to let any opportunities for socialising go by

i used self hypnosis to become a non smoker just over 5 years ago. i was smoking 40 ciggies a day and havent had a ciggy since. i know several other people from these boards have also used various self hypnosis methods successfully to give up the ciggies aswell

doesnt work for everyone, works for plenty enough to prove that its obviously not bulls*** though. anyone that states otherwise hasnt got a clue. it doesnt matter how (unless it causing more harm) or why it works, as long as it works.
natslovR
Posts: 1447
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
my mrs was considering trying the hypno to stop smoking, but was put off by the 500dollar price tag just at the moment. how's the self hypno work? had you guys that did hypno failed at coldturkey and patches, etc before?
Lunch
Posts: 932
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
500??

It cost me like $120. Although that was like 2+ years ago.

Minxy
Posts: 106
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yea, my next door neighbours saw a hypnotherapist for smoking, having both smoked for more than 20 years. Both haven't smoked since. Can't remember exactly how much they paid, but was only around the $150 mark.
Le Infidel
Posts: 1706
Location: Other International
i once thought i had to stop smoking so i stopped and that was it ... cant understand why people need a placebo but I guess if it works then it might be worth it
teq
Posts: 842
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
cause not everyone is as cool as you
Skitza
Posts: 8214
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I'm guessing your saying hypnotherapy is bulls*** and/or a placebo


It is.
qmass
Posts: 9003
Location: Queensland
It is.
Careful, you'll get nuked :P
Arize
Posts: 49
Location: Queensland
see im not 100% sure that it isnt its worked with 2 of my mates in uni, but i know some other people who have gone there and said it didn't do s*** so i dunno. i guess some people be treated by hypno, some people can't.

last edited by Arize at 03:36:33 27/Jan/08
Imperial
Posts: 400
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Imperial: I'm guessing your saying hypnotherapy is bulls*** and/or a placebo


Skitza: It is.

I'm not debating that, im simply saying that even if it is bulls*** and/or a placebo if it helps some people how bad can it realy be?
operator
Posts: 60
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I have been looking into hypo as a way to stop biting my fingernails. Can anyone recommend a therapist?

I wanted to go to this place as he is a medical doctor and you get medicare rebates. (costs $130 for a one-hour session but you get a Medicare rebate of 91.70). The only problem is that he is not really open after hours very often.
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This place is another option as it is in the city but no rebate. ($99 for 1.25 hour session)

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Thanks for recommendations



last edited by operator at 09:51:55 27/Jan/08
paveway
Posts: 7039
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
heh nail biting
operator
Posts: 61
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i have a bit missing in my brain. spook told me so.
groganus
Posts: 261
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
my mrs was considering trying the hypno to stop smoking, but was put off by the 500dollar price tag just at the moment. how's the self hypno work? had you guys that did hypno failed at coldturkey and patches, etc before?


what! my mother is a hypnotherapist and if you were paying $500 to give up smoking youd get atleast 10 sessions for that price.

hypnosis completely works but only on stuff you want to let work, in other words you cant make someone do something they dont want to, but the whole point to going to hypnotherapy is get help with something you do want.

and people go for all kinds of reasons generally phobias and addictions.

ive seen some cool hypnosis s*** like this one lady got told that a metal spoon as 1000degrees hot and then the therapist touched the lady with the spoon and the ladys skin blistered.

CHUB
Posts: 3867
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ive seen some cool hypnosis s*** like this one lady got told that a metal spoon as 1000degrees hot and then the therapist touched the lady with the spoon and the ladys skin blistered.
You fail at life.
taggs
Posts: 1755
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ive seen some cool hypnosis s*** like this one lady got told that a metal spoon as 1000degrees hot and then the therapist touched the lady with the spoon and the ladys skin blistered.


um, seriously?
CHUB
Posts: 3868
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It's true taggs.

If I TRULY believe I will catch on fire, I suddenly turn into the human torch.
groganus
Posts: 262
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
um, seriously?


the brain is pretty powerful and essentially all hypnosis is is programming/reprogramming of the brain and subconcious.
ravn0s
Posts: 6011
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
If I TRULY believe I will catch on fire, I suddenly turn into the human torch.


good luck with that.
Arize
Posts: 52
Location: Queensland
a human torch lmfao.
Spook
Posts: 20754
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
heh nail biting


with operator its more like pillow biting

ive told him before, just stop doing it, but he wont listen
Arize
Posts: 53
Location: Queensland
with operator its more like pillow biting


hahahah
operator
Posts: 62
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hi-larious...
Spook
Posts: 20756
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hahah
Idol
Posts: 1807
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hypnotherapy is nothing more than agreeing to do what the other person tells you to do. There is just a bit of mystic hype or a show put on to motivate you. There is no evidence that anything else is happening apart from anecdotal evidence.
natslovR
Posts: 5595
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
the mrs said she never said it was $500, why the f*** would i think she said that. she said it didn't list a price.
operator
Posts: 63
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Is there an average amount of sessions that most people need to stop their compulsions?
Arize
Posts: 55
Location: Queensland
usually 1 at the start and 1 at the end so they can see your progress whether it has helped etc.
operator
Posts: 64
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
sweet! 1 session and I could be cured of my pillow biting compulsion, I mean nail biting.
Arize
Posts: 56
Location: Queensland
:P
taggs
Posts: 1757
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
the brain is pretty powerful and essentially all hypnosis is is programming/reprogramming of the brain and subconcious.


surely blistering is a physical reaction to the heat and isn't something that can be done by your brain?...
Fireblood
Posts: 8080
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
the brain is pretty powerful and essentially all hypnosis is is programming/reprogramming of the brain and subconcious.


While it sounds like a crock, the skin reacts in that way as a reaction, yes the burning helps it blister, but the skin probably does it as some form of defense mechanism.
groganus
Posts: 263
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
While it sounds like a crock, the skin reacts in that way as a reaction, yes the burning helps it blister, but the skin probably does it as some form of defense mechanism.

essentially yes,
its the same as when you put your hand under cold water and at first it feels hot because the brain hasnt told your body that its actually cold, with hypnosis you can increase that effect to the point that the skin reacts and blisters.

natslovR
Posts: 5598
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
I don't think you can claim it on medicare. You would need a Dr referral and it says here that 'tobacco use disorder' is not covered by medicare: http://www.cpph.com.au/medicarenews.html
Jim
Posts: 7193
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
the mrs said she never said it was $500, why the f*** would i think she said that.
ari's secretary said it in entourage, I can see how you'd get confused
simul
Posts: 256
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
One of the lecturers was telling me there that there was a guy that used various mental tricks on business management people to condition them.

None of them had any criminal record but by the end (without actually suggesting it) he got them to attempt to rob an armoured car (he had given them water pistols but conditioned them to think they were real).

So I guess in theory there is no reason why a hypno couldn't do the same thing?
Idol
Posts: 1835
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
He was a lecturer, a guy in a position of authority, and the business people were probably paying for classes - so why wouldn't they do what he says?

You can't say whether he actually convinced them the toy gun was real or not. You have no ability to determine what really happened in another person's head.



last edited by Idol at 08:34:43 30/Jan/08
fpot
Posts: 14984
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Skin blistering is a physical reaction to heat, the same way plastic will blister if you hold a lighter up to it.

You are full of s*** Greyden.
Obes
Posts: 5739
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The placebo effect is real, so if you believe it will work. It has a chance of working.
taggs
Posts: 1762
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Skin blistering is a physical reaction to heat, the same way plastic will blister if you hold a lighter up to it.

You are full of s*** Greyden.


see now that's what i thought.
operator
Posts: 65
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Sorry to rez this thread, but how did you go Arize?
fpot
Posts: 14987
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
And also explain your bs Greyden.
groganus
Posts: 266
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i have already explained it to the best of my ability and understanding, im not a hypnotherapist, ive only seen a hypnotherapist do it, and at the time of witnessing it i went wtf how is that possible, you have to burn something to make it blister aka plastic as you described, then when i was told that skin isnt plastic and the blistering in plastic is a chemical reaction to heat where as the blistering on skin is a reaction from the brain to heat. whilst they have similar results they are seperate processes which can be triggered by seperate things. as previously explained and ill quote myself to so i dont have to repeat myself

its the same as when you put your hand under cold water and at first it feels hot because the brain hasnt told your body that its actually cold, with hypnosis you can increase that effect to the point that the skin reacts and blisters.


with that in mind you can make skin blister with a cold element, because again its the brain not knowing what todo and going into emergency mode to protect itself and heal itself instantly.

and yeah hypnotherapy cant be explained by science, because its not science, its suggestion, which is why its very successful for things like smoking and nail biting, because people who go to get hypnosis done for those things have generally tried everything else and are really desperate to stop. so the power of suggestion works alot easier.

but like i said, im no hypnotherapist, i just live with one that loves to harp on about this kind of s*** all the time and show me the neat tricks that shes learned.

Bah
Posts: 2705
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ts the same as when you put your hand under cold water and at first it feels hot
Never happened to me, maybe my brain works properly?
Strange Rash
Posts: 727
Location:
i thought it was common knowledge that people under deep hypnosis can be made to blister when they touch a spoon at room temperature - just by being told it was hot and they will blister when they touch it

hell you can even cut someone under hypnosis and tell them not to bleed and they won't, until they come out of it

i always thought the effect was similar to stigmata
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigmata
Joanna
Posts: 1115
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I don't understand why they're hurting people under hypnosis.. Is it just to prove a point? So cruel.

I'd hate to come out of it and be burnt to blisters.
fpot
Posts: 14988
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Your skin doesn't blister because your brain tells it to. Go and stick a lighter up to a dead guys skin and it will blister.
Reverend
Posts: 993
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Strange Rash
Posts: 729
Location:
Your skin doesn't blister because your brain tells it to


Usually no, but it can when you're under hypnosis. At least that's what I've heard from doctors.
d[o_0]b
Posts: 1921
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
and heal itself instantly.


then it bubbles and hearths
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