Costello says no thanks to opposition leader role:

Oooo!

So who is gonna be the man?

Downer again?
Turnball?!

poor peter, in his mind he was going to be king of the land, and now hes taking his bat and ball and heading home

downer wouldn't be a generational change in leadership...

ow johnie will be in tears

Turnbull or Abbot, but neither did their claims much good in the campaign.

Dark horse Joe Hockey

I'm with Spidz. Only downside to Turnbull is he is a Republican.

Possibly Ruddock.

Yeh that's true pave, but Costello doesn't get to say who is the right candidate; sounds like there is a lot of fallout going on atm. They may well go with a patsy (haha poor Downer ... again?) while they work out a real next-gen leader?

One thing for sure it does sound like the party is moving to disassociate itself from the prior Government. That could work for them, but it might give Labor an extra term's grace while they rebuild a viable alternative?

haha rudd and hockey face off at the next election, that would be cool

I'll do it

So does he get millions of dollars payout when he leaves?

i doubt turnbull would take it.

he would prefer a chance at being pm, rather than opposition leader. i predict 2 terms of labor atleast. unless rudd does something really stupid in his first term.

whcih is pretty likely.

If there is minimal blood letting, I think the Coalition will win the next election.

I said the same thing spidz, about Labor...in 1996... and Bomber won the national popular vote... but not enough seats.
Two terms minimum.

Historically we don't change governments unless they really shag up - Whitlam is the prime example of this (Khemlani loans affair anyone?) - or their time is up. Then we give the newbies time to make some mistakes. I'd be surprised if the Rudd Labor Government doesn't last at least three terms, for all Garrett's talk about changing everything there will be a softly, softly approach from Labor.

Costello definitely doesn't want to do the hard yards as Opposition Leader for 2-3 terms to get his shot as PM - he wanted the nice transition that JWH denied him. After the second loss as leader the Liberals would turn on him and hand leadership to someone like Abbott or Turnbull. Most losing Liberal leaders are lucky to get one shot at an election.

So Downer will throw his hat in the ring, generational change be damned. Abbott and Turnbull will have a go as well. The smart thing would be to set up Downer as next time's loser so they can put one of the other two in for the real shot in 2013.

i think it will be just like the former republic of Yugoslavia, once the prominent leader is removed, the new elect doesn't have the political strength to hold the embattled group together, Yugoslavia collapsed after Tito's death, and i think the liberals will descend into frenzy of in-fighting and backstabbing, reminiscent of the labor infighting before Rudd became leader, or it could even go the way of the ALP / DLP split of the 1950's under bob Bob Santamaria, with the religious right in the liberals been lead by say Abbot and the politically conservative under say Turnbull. needless to say, very sobering times ahead for the libs.

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Implosion?

f*** me what a disaster for the Libs. I bet Costello would love to stab Johnny through the heart with a pencil.

Costello is a bit of a soft cock though compared to the 'Man of Steel'. Johnny personified the term 'persistence'.

Yugoslavia collapsed after Tito's death, and i think the liberals will descend into frenzy of in-fighting and backstabbing

I always knew international politics was doomed when Tito's career died.

http://members.aol.com/mikeljaxn2/jacksons/1tito.jpg

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Jesus, that lance and eskimo page is terrible. Went there when your link failed and I'll prolly never go back again.

Only downside to Turnbull is he is a Republican.

that's a good thing

turnbull would be my choice, it seems unlikely to happen though. /predict Abbott

and joe hockey? give me a break

that just proves costello is a pissy little bitch
i'm glad howard just didn't give him the leadership

They may well go with a patsy (haha poor Downer ... again?) while they work out a real next-gen leader?

Im pretty sure I have heard Downer say that he doesnt want the job... even though he is probably the best person left.

Turnbull is keen, Downer unsure

Whoever takes it on is in for a rough ride. You could almost think that they'd prefer to miss out and be waiting in the wings for the next round once the shadow of the Howard Government has faded.

Edit: ohs*** its Turnbull?

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joe hockey for pm

qmass: Downer has previously dismissed thoughts of leadership while Costello was the de facto choice.

He's now apparently the most senior Lib left and is considering it.

yer, give big joe a go

i never hated him when he was on sunrise

he seems personable enough, even though hes forced to trot out all the coaltion nonsense

people would actually vote for him (unlike costello)

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I quite like Joe Hockey, he gives an impression of being 'nice' and competent at the same time.

I think he would suffer from the fat man problem with Aussie politics tho. All bulls*** aside he would need to lose a few to have a real shot.

Kind of sad but true :(

good times, good times.

looks like Costellos' fair go was thrown out the back door lol.

Turnbull for patsy?

Spidz, the sky will not fall in just because your precious little libs aren't running the place.

Get over the us and them divisive mentality that got created. Concensus > divide and conquer.

I hope youre being sarcastic obes

cant wait to hear what Hicksy has to say.

whens the time up on that gag order?

Joe Hockey would be awesome!

go go JOE!

Obes - they're not 'my libs' - I vote on policy. Having blind faith in a political party is retarded, and both sides of politics have plenty of these retards.

When unemployment climbs back to around 6% within 12 months, the writing will be on the wall.

lets worry about it when it happens eh?

+1 for Joe Hockey. I think he would be the only guy who would keep Rudd on his toes. I've always wanted Rudd as PM, but I want him to be tested as well.

so do you think the unions will take over on tuesday or wednesday?

Russell Egan for opposition leader.

Rudd thinks he is going to choose his on ministry. Yeah, right.

so do you think the unions will take over on tuesday or wednesday?

Why wait till tuesday?

Kevin Rudd couldn't go 3 rounds with Winnie-the-Pooh.

Why wait till tuesday?

Monday's their RDO!!

Russell Egan for opposition leader.

lol, I'd vote for him :P



LOL @ RDO. Unlikely they'll waste an RDO tho, they'll chuck a sickie because they've been boozing with the union bosses, spending workers union fees on strippers.

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Russell Egan for opposition leader.

super lolz

Kevin Rudd couldn't go 3 rounds with Winnie-the-Pooh.

Why wait till tuesday?



Monday's their RDO!!

ZOMG, TRIPPLE LULZ

lol

union ppl r such bludgers

When unemployment climbs back to around 6% within 12 months, the writing will be on the wall.

And spidz, if it's not ? ... My guess, you won't have changed your opinion/position at all.

Just like all the randoms who threatened to leave the country if labor got in, still here.

blind faith in a political party is moronic Obes, but all power to you.

You probably voted for Latham!

that's not as bad as voting for Garrett.

haha who threatened to leave the country

mongie

give them time to make travel arrangements

now that's just silly.

Costello definitely doesn't want to do the hard yards as Opposition Leader for 2-3 terms to get his shot as PM - he wanted the nice transition that JWH denied him.

He's just gutless.

Jim, One of them was that crazy wench off Sunrise, on polling day. She was on Sunday Sunrise as well, where she sort of stepped back from the extreme attitude.

I even believe someone on this forum threatened to lose there Australian citizenship if it happened. I bet they won't and if they do ... Chopper says Harden the f*** up

And spidz, I didn't vote for Latham ... and I am not pro Labor so much as anti Johnny. (Not that how I vote affects anything, Lilley has been a forgone conclusion for years, I actually give my vote to random minor parties so they might get their deposit back)

I believe both side can run a government, if only because its really the public service that runs it!

yeah that was mongie who threatend his australian citizenship, i believe he actually said that he would become an english citizen. **ROFFLE** good luck to him.

heh classic
mongie can I have your stuff?