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Topic: Australian digger killed in Afghanistan
Crakaveli
Posts: 2588
Location: USA
Another digger killed in Afghanistan

An Australian soldier has been killed in Afghanistan, the Australian Defence Force says.

In a statement, the defence department said Australian troops had been involved in a "significant incident" in Oruzgan province earlier today that resulted in the soldier's death.

It follows the death of Trooper David Pearce, who was killed by a roadside bomb in southern Afghanistan on October 8.

The chief of the defence force, Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, will release details of the incident at a press conference in Canberra later tonight (AEST).


Thats two in 1 month :(.
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Scooter
Posts: 1036
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
That's two, period.

It is a sad day, but so is everyday over there.
Crakaveli
Posts: 2589
Location: USA
What do you mean, two period?

An SAS Soldier was killed in Afghanistan in 2003.
JakeG
Posts: 26
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
He means thats the only 2 that have been killed.
athzhr
Posts: 26
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Why are they considered diggers?
Crakaveli
Posts: 2590
Location: USA
SAS soldier shot dead in Afghanistan

An Australian SAS soldier has been shot and killed by Taliban fighters in Afghanistan, Defence boss Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston says.

The soldier was on patrol when he was severely wounded by small-arms fire from Taliban fighters.

"A coalition helicopter immediately responded to a call for assistance from the Australian patrol and evacuated the soldier to a nearby medical facility," he told reporters.

"Unfortunately despite the best efforts of his mates and the aeromedical team the soldier succumbed to his wounds."

His family had been informed.

No other Australian troops were injured in the incident.

Air Chief Marshal Houston said it was tragic day for the ADF.
Superform
Posts: 4715
Location: Netherlands
cause they dig holes to take a dump
StreX
Posts: 5863
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
cos theyre aussie soldiers ffs

rip dig.
ara
Posts: 1494
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
Why are they considered diggers?


i thought it was the nickname for all australian soldiers since the anzac days.
whoop
Posts: 11879
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I thought it was the nick name for retired soldiers.
Crakaveli
Posts: 2591
Location: USA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digger_(soldier)
qmass
Posts: 8907
Location: Queensland
athzhr
Forum Posts: 26
AGN Total: 26
Location: Brisbane, Queensland not australia
ara
Posts: 1495
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

haha, exactly. get out! you obviously would fail the government's citizenship test. :)
athzhr
Posts: 28
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I thought it was the nick name for retired soldiers.


That's what I thought? Not the guys currently in the war :/
Superform
Posts: 4716
Location: Netherlands
its a term applied to Australian soldiers during ww1 who would dig trenches for themselves
the term came to be used for all Australian soldiers past and present
athzhr
Posts: 29
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
its a term applied to Australian soldiers during ww1 who would dig trenches for themselves


That's actually the first time I've heard the term 'diggers' to describe modern day soldiers :/
Superform
Posts: 4717
Location: Netherlands
well ww2 soldiers were diggers and they had nothing to do with the ww1 trench warfare system
Midda
Posts: 1140
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I too was not aware the term 'digger' was used to describe modern Aussie soldiers, I thought it was reserved for the retired ones.

But moving on, as sad as it is, I suppose that we're lucky that we've lost so few soldiers to this stupid war. We've fared much better than the US.
ara
Posts: 1499
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

I don't know if you could call Afganastan a stupid war. There were problems there and it is widely supported that the place is better now then it was before.

Unlike Iraq and all the shiz going on there.
WetWired
Posts: 3303
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah I thought and still do that digger was for anzacs, retired soliders, stop f***ing calling the new ones diggers
CHUB
Posts: 3438
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Unless you dug or were an overall part of digging in previous wars, you're not a digger ffs.

My cousin is in Afganistan now, he's with the 4RAR, they just alternate him between Afgan/Timor/Iraq non-stop with maybe 2 months a year back at home, definetely getting their moneys worth.


ravn0s
Posts: 5688
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
screw joining the army.

rip mcdigger
Crakaveli
Posts: 2592
Location: USA
Wow this thread is full of f***ing morons, All bitching about me calling a fallen soldier a digger. Have some f***ing respect.
Idol
Posts: 1125
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Why are they considered diggers?


It sounds cuter than 'killers'.
Chakas
Posts: 2377
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I'm glad we're still in a position feel shocked/care about these kind of loses. Using the first results I got from google there have been 3837 US Military fatalitlies in Iraq. Link. And 75,598 – 82,370 "Documented civilian deaths from violence". Link.

I don't know how correct those numbers are, nor would I suggest there is no agenda behind their circulation on the internet. (Justification of the military action isn't the issue here.) But one thing I will say is that by that stage they're all just numbers rather than real people.
fpot
Posts: 14764
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Using the first results I got from google there have been 3837 US Military fatalitlies in Iraq.
In before Suhaib and the other one come in here and blow those numbers away with their 'first hand experience' and compelling evidence from the arab media.
nF
Forum Hero
Posts: 13496
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
its atleast 50 times that fpot
taggs
Posts: 1500
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah its closer to 500 000 or 50 000 US soldiers or something. but they keep it covered up so no one knows. true story
teq
Posts: 393
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
what about the guy that "accidentally shot himself"
technically he's a casualty of war, if it weren't for the war he wouldn't have been there / needed a gun
Crakaveli
Posts: 2593
Location: USA
what about the guy that "accidentally shot himself"
technically he's a casualty of war, if it weren't for the war he wouldn't have been there / needed a gun


That was in Iraq, and why is accidentally shot himself in quotation marks? Do you think it's a big military coverup?. Yeah US fatalities are nearing 4000, and there WiA is upwards of 60 000 (including mental and physical).
teq
Posts: 397
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
fire up?!@

For all we know one of his mates shot him because he was about to blow the whistle
on a major opium trading ring

also, Afghanistan/Iraq .. same s***, it's all an illegal war anyway.

think about it.
Superform
Posts: 4718
Location: Netherlands
f***in towel heads had it coming
Crakaveli
Posts: 2594
Location: USA
fire up?!@

For all we know one of his mates shot him because he was about to blow the whistle
on a major opium trading ring

also, Afghanistan/Iraq .. same s***, it's all an illegal war anyway.

think about it.


I don't feel like thinking about it, so why don't you explain it.
DirtyApe
Posts: 298
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I was thinking this morning when I saw Howard and the like on the news talking about this guy. I wondered if the Taliban hold press meetings everytime one of their guys are killed. This could be our downfall because we value life maybe too much and they don't value it all. When a enemy doesn't care if they live or die that is a pretty big thing to beat. We value our life on earth and they seem to value life after death, how can you compete with that.
groganus
Posts: 13
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I was thinking this morning when I saw Howard and the like on the news talking about this guy. I wondered if the Taliban hold press meetings everytime one of their guys are killed. This could be our downfall because we value life maybe too much and they don't value it all. When a enemy doesn't care if they live or die that is a pretty big thing to beat. We value our life on earth and they seem to value life after death, how can you compete with that.


what, its not a downfall, if we dont value life then they win as far as im concerned.
infi
Posts: 7247
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
to the terrorists, humans are just vehicles to pack full of nails, ball bearings and explosives. charming.

"the kingdom" was an interesting movie in that respect.
Wo Wo Slowdown Champ!
Posts: 7866
Location: Other International
Just remember: one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Primal
Posts: 2046
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
diggers are mainly grunts, but the term is still used when rank are handing out orders..

i heard the word digger a couple of times over the last 2 weeks at townsville high range training ground while doing my MRE..

my 6 month iraq deployment starts in december..

fpot
Posts: 14768
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Merry Christmas.
Boxhead
Posts: 11606
Location: UK
Get your ass signed up with one of those private contractors primal... They're getting fat money from the US govt so you can make a mint!!! (just make sure you're in the extra armoured 4x4.. jim might be able to hook you up :p

But in all seriousness... All the best duder, keep your head down, hopefully the election will go the right way and you could be back sooner rather then later...
CHUB
Posts: 3449
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Get your ass signed up with one of those private contractors primal... They're getting fat money from the US govt so you can make a mint!!! (just make sure you're in the extra armoured 4x4.. jim might be able to hook you up :p
My cousin did that for AGES, was getting ~$800 - $900 a day for being the back car in VIP convoy's.

He said the best part was pwning cars with a grenade launcher if they got too close to the convoy :)

Gave them about 5 seconds, few shots into the front grill, then if they don't back off, BAM! No questions asked.
Wo Wo Slowdown Champ!
Posts: 7870
Location: Other International
my 6 month iraq deployment starts in december..
Good to see you're putting your life on the line to defend your country from the invading iraqi forces whos mere purpose is to suck out this country's fine resources.

Salutations.
stagrrr
Posts: 427
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
He said the best part was pwning cars with a grenade launcher if they got too close to the convoy :) Gave them about 5 seconds, few shots into the front grill, then if they don't back off, BAM! No questions asked.

How not to fight a counter-insurgency.
Eds
Posts: 8373
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

He said the best part was pwning cars with a grenade launcher if they got too close to the convoy :) Gave them about 5 seconds, few shots into the front grill, then if they don't back off, BAM! No questions asked.


That didnt really happen did it...
parabol
Posts: 3682
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
He said the best part was pwning cars with a grenade launcher

Wow, so mature.
Wo Wo Slowdown Champ!
Posts: 7872
Location: Other International
That didnt really happen did it...
Nah only on sundays.

Happens all the time gronk.
CHUB
Posts: 3450
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
That didnt really happen did it...
That wasn't the worst of what he told me.

Simple logic, they do 160km/hr through packed Baghdad streets, so if any car approaches at that speed, you can be 110% sure it's not a civilian, so they don't mess around.

He said they slow down for nothing, if there's women/children/anyone on the road they just run them down/wrap them into a pole... he said it's sad mowing down a group of children, but the moment you drop below 160k you're a target for bombs/rpg's and such... and obviously the VIP's life is worth more then any Iraqi.
reso
I can't read
Posts: 4115
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Wouldn't a group of children do a fair bit of damage to at car at 160km/hr?
Wo Wo Slowdown Champ!
Posts: 7874
Location: Other International
he said it's sad mowing down a group of children
Well at least he is considerate.

Fuxstain.
CHUB
Posts: 3451
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Wouldn't a group of children do a fair bit of damage to at car at 160km/hr?
If you mean reinforced military jeeps with massive bullbars... then no.
Well at least he is considerate.

Fuxstain.
...be realistic, you got to do what you're told, it's the military.

If you slowed down for every single civilian on the road, you + the VIP would be dead in no time. It's not like they're flooring it through the green zones... if you slow down to 40km/hr outside where all the violence is happening you're an easy target.

Don't act like he's evil, if you're in the military you got to do what you're ordered to do and you have to do whatever keeps you alive.

Meh, it's a terrible war, I'm glad I don't have to make these decisions.
Wo Wo Slowdown Champ!
Posts: 7875
Location: Other International
if you're in the military you got to do what you're ordered to do...
wo wo slow down champ...

For whatever reason it may be, you made a choice to be in the military. (I'd say a lot of them are there for the money and couldn't give dick about "the war on terror"). So whatever happens after that is on your conscience. You've got just as much blood on your hands (or on your tank) as the person ordering you to kill the innocent, which sort of contradicts the whole reason why the invading scums are there in the first place don't you think?

But you're right on one thing, iraqi blood is the cheapest blood going around at the moment, followed by the blood of niggaz and latinos fighting in the front line trying to get their PR and/or get their criminal record cleared. How ironic.

last edited by Wo Wo Slowdown Champ! at 16:31:45 28/Oct/07
CHUB
Posts: 3452
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I agree, the blood is on his hands, but he's not fully responsible... whether that makes any difference, I don't know.

On one hand you're saying he's an evil f***er, then on the other hand you got other QGL members telling us to "show some f***ing respect" over something as trivial as saying that current soliders aren't "diggers".

All war is s***, but there's definetely nothing honourable about fighting in Iraq at the moment.

He hates killing people over there, he always reinforces that point that the special forces are kitted out to the max with all the highest quality equipment and the Iraqi's have a few dirty broken rifles and homemade bombs... it's very unfair fighting, pretty much suicide on their part.
Wo Wo Slowdown Champ!
Posts: 7877
Location: Other International
I never said the digger that died "was an evil f***er". I said those that kill innocent people (irrespective of who you're fighting for) and then shift the blame on to their superiors are also responsible for the blood shed. I said this in reference to your mate getting his daily kick out of lobbing grenades at approaching vehicles and running people over perhaps because they're stuck in traffic, which often tends to happens since traffic laws are none existent.

And yes, it's an unfair fight, yet the coalition of the double-standardizing can't admit 2 things:

1 - that they can never justify this war no matter what excuse they come up with
2 - that they're gradually losing said war.


and now it's Football time.


last edited by Wo Wo Slowdown Champ! at 17:08:44 28/Oct/07
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