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Topic: Why would a computer gain 4 minutes every day?
Kat
Posts: 8903
Location:
Would it have anything to do with the hardware or just software issues?

It speeds up around about 4/5 mins each day

*edited title because I got it wrong*
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*PoP PrInCeSs*
Posts: 99
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
your battery may be charged too much, pushing out more energy? I dunno hehe I don't know electric :p:P:P:P
d[o_0]b
Posts: 1529
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
cant ya tell it to synch with a time server?
Kat
Posts: 8904
Location:
It is set up to sync but only does it every one or two weeks so I manually do it each day.
Freewheelin
Posts: 899
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
why does the thread title say lose and the thread content say gain?


i had a pc do that years ago. nfi why.

do they use quartz crystal to measure time or some other dodgy method

last edited by Freewheelin at 14:52:33 26/Apr/07
Spook
Posts: 18409
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ITS IT OVERCLOCEKD!!?!?!?
lozl
Kat
Posts: 8905
Location:
Most likely but we have only had the problem for the last 6 months or so
Mr Hardware
Posts: 1746
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
change motherboard battery
if result = 0
then
send motherboard away for warranty
if remaining warranty = 0
then
buy new motherboard
end of problem
mongie
Posts: 4038
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
NICE ALGORITHM MR HARDEWARE
TicMan
Posts: 1965
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Busted mobo probably, just set your time sync program to run every 30 minutes or something instead.
Kat
Posts: 8906
Location:
How are you able to adjust your time sync period?
groydis
Posts: 1361
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
maybe its not the computer, maybe the rest of the world is getting slower!!!$&@(#&@(&#(@&

OMG!)#$*!
TicMan
Posts: 1966
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
How are you able to adjust your time sync period?


Depends which one your using, if it's the inbuilt XP one then follows these instructions at http://www.timetools.co.uk/support/windows-xp-ntp-time-server.htm


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\W32Time\TimeProviders\NTPClient\SpecialPollInterval

Set this to the preiod in seconds that the Windows XP machine should poll the NTP server. A recommended value is 900 seconds which equates to every 15 minutes.


Then use these commands to set the NTP server;


C:\>net time /setsntp:TIMESERVER.COM.GOES.HERE
The command completed successfully.

C:\>net stop w32time && net start w32time
The Windows Time service is stopping.
The Windows Time service was stopped successfully.

The Windows Time service is starting.
The Windows Time service was started successfully.
Mr Hardware
Posts: 1748
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
thanks mongie, i was fairly proud of it myself :P
Raven
Posts: 1870
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
A dead or overvoltage battery isn't going to cause what you've described here. In fact being out by that kind of amount is very strange. Just like the other system clocks, a timer clock uses a piezoelectric crystal, which generates a wave based on how much pressure is exerted on it, not based on a voltage passed to it or anything like that. I don't know how much it would take to alter it by this kind of figure, but basically it would indicate too much pressure on the piezo.

The clocks I'm used to dealing with claim 1 thousandth of a second every 36 hours, used for basic motor sport. Of course, we use more accurate clocks as well in the higher grade equipment.

As said above, sync to an ntp server in the meantime. time.iinet.net.au, time.optusnet.com.au, time.telstra.com ... there's a good start. Please don't use tier 1 servers :P
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 20430
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I use NetTime syncing from oceania.pool.ntp.org. Free, open source.
Denny
Posts: 3104
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Kat, Are you useing Azureus?

I used to have a similar problem with that POS program. Try using uTorrent instead if you are.
Kat
Posts: 8907
Location:
Azureus is running on this machine yes.
The ntp server we use is au.pool.ntp.org
Metrix
Posts: 98
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
What makes you think it is out by 4 minutes?

If the time is being reset by some software you are running and you check against the watch on your hand at the end of the day...

Then BAM! the time is out by 4 minutes, I'd say it has just run your program and your watch is wrong :)

But seriously if the crystal on your mobo is stuffed and you are gaining time over a day, I would not use that Motherboard for anything mission critical.

All types of unknown errors can creep into software with an unreliable internal clock, not to mention it runs the cycle of the CPU itself (well the use too run off the same crystal back in the day and assume it's the same today)...

So throw the mobo away and start again
Kat
Posts: 8908
Location:
Because everyday I go to pick up my daughter from school if I go by the computer clock I am 10/5 minutes early.
Morgan
Posts: 3457
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i'd suggest using something a bit more reliable as a measure rather then the time you pick your daughter up from school...

maybe

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=47
scooby
Posts: 3240
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
perhaps the computer is travelling close to the speed of light and bending the space time continuum
Insom
Posts: 1433
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah my computer does this too ever since I got it, but it goes out by a maximum of about 4 minutes (as opposed to gaining steadily each day)

never was able to figure it out
Skitza
Posts: 7877
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
simple answer: its f***ed

now answer me this, how does my analouge watch become an hour fast and make me go to work stupidly early? HEY? ANSWER ME THAT ONE!#!$

TicMan
Posts: 1967
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
now answer me this, how does my analouge watch become an hour fast and make me go to work stupidly early? HEY? ANSWER ME THAT ONE!#!$


If we had DST then this wouldn't be a problem.
Idol
Posts: 677
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The actual length of one day is 23 hours, 56 minutes and 4.09 seconds. So lets say one clock you're looking at uses a 24 hour convention, the other goes by the earth's actual rotation (though I guess that's a bit weird) then you could be out by about four minutes a day.
JigZie
Posts: 2844
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Kat cause it belongs to you and wants to die faster.
whoop
Posts: 11236
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Please don't use tier 1 servers :P

why not? I use time-b.nist.gov because the internets told me to.

Anyone else recently had windows unable to sync with any time server at all? Mine stopped working a few months ago yet both my routers can sync, if I use a 3rd party program to sync it, it works but the built in POS xp one on all 3 of my computers failed.

now answer me this, how does my analouge watch become an hour fast and make me go to work stupidly early? HEY? ANSWER ME THAT ONE!#!$

because it relies on cogs & magnets & is a cheap pos? You overwound it if it's a wind up one? Your uncle drives a delorian?

edit: oh and, a certain speed hack for quake2 years ago used to f*** with your system clocks and after a bout of speed hacking the clock would be a few hours out.

last edited by whoop at 19:59:45 26/Apr/07
nF
Forum Hero
Posts: 12975
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
now answer me this, how does my analouge watch become an hour fast and make me go to work stupidly early? HEY? ANSWER ME THAT ONE!#!$


you got punk'd
shad
Posts: 1847
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Really enjoying these posts from the future.
Skitza
Posts: 7878
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It does it in my sleep... dirty in-sleep-fast-forward-watch-whisperers
paveway
Posts: 5019
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
maybe the clock is on a treadmill
JigZie
Posts: 2845
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
or maybe your on a treadmill and the computer is running forward.
Triamks
Posts: 1228
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It will need the right air pressure.
system
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