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mongie
Posts: 3903
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Do you guys know if it is normal to be paid annual leave in advance, ie. when taking leave, recieve the pay for that leave at the beinning of the period so you have it to use on your holidays?
I'm on leave at the moment, but I haven't been told about when I'm getting my leave pay, and on current schedule, My leave will be more than 2/3rds over by the time I do get paid, which will suck. Anyone have any experience with this sort of thing? |
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Obes
Posts: 4799
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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At my place of work, you can request Annual leave paid in advance as long as the leave is more then 2 weeks. But they aren't required to give it to you.
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| #1 03:15pm 05/03/07 |
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Mr Hardware
Posts: 1514
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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pretty much same
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| #2 03:16pm 05/03/07 |
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giririsss
Posts: 2356
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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It depends on what your contract says.
Where i work we can ask for it either way all in advance, or just get paid normall. |
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| #3 03:16pm 05/03/07 |
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mongie
Posts: 3904
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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and when you request that it is paid in advance, do they just throw it in with the pay before you would go on leave... or would they make a special payment for you around when your leave starts?
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| #4 03:18pm 05/03/07 |
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Mr Hardware
Posts: 1515
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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depends on the workplace
usually the former from what i understand |
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Mr Hardware
Posts: 1516
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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and anyway, who are we, officeworks hr department?
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| #6 03:22pm 05/03/07 |
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mongie
Posts: 3905
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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shh
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| #7 03:30pm 05/03/07 |
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mongie
Posts: 3906
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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most probably just managerial incompetence, but oh well... I don't work there anymore. I timed it well so that I would be on leave for my last 3 weeks there - yay and I've been on leave since friday.
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Joanna
Posts: 1003
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I thought it was generally just paid, as you would normally be paid.
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| #9 03:41pm 05/03/07 |
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mongie
Posts: 3907
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I called my boss and he said he'd look into it... After reading the thread's responses I remembered that I had been asked by my manager if I wanted pay in advance and I told him I did, mind you this was like a month ago, and I had had to remind him about 5 times that I was taking leave in the first place...
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| #10 04:04pm 05/03/07 |
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Predator
Posts: 258
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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most probably just managerial incompetence, but oh well... I don't work there anymore. I timed it well so that I would be on leave for my last 3 weeks there - yay and I've been on leave since friday. Then again if you no longer work there, you may not get paid at all, depending on how questionable their business practices are, which means even more grief in the long run. You should get paid at the same time you normally would, regardless of whether you are on leave or not, unless you made arrangements otherwise. I'd call and ask regardless if you are the least bit unsure. At my prior workplace there were a few people in this position who did not get the leave they were owed paid to them and had to resort to legal measures. last edited by Predator at 16:10:34 05/Mar/07 |
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| #11 04:10pm 05/03/07 |
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mongie
Posts: 3908
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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its colesmyer, I think their practices are fairly reliable.
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| #12 04:32pm 05/03/07 |
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infi
Posts: 5247
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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The amended Workplace Relations Act Part 7 Division 4 says nothing about when annual leave must be paid, therefore it is up to the employer to act in a reasonable manner meaning payment should be made in line with the regular pay cycle.
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| #13 04:47pm 05/03/07 |
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captivate
Posts: 885
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Yeah we are able to request our pay and leave pay in advance of our leave, or just wait for it in the normal pay period. Just ask them, generally if there is a formal leave form there is the option of selecting when you want the pay.
My new job doesnt even pay leave loading because they think its the same amount you get taxed for it anyway. Which isnt right. Stingy millionaire bastards. |
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| #14 04:58pm 05/03/07 |
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Spook
Posts: 17955
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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my work just pays you as per the normal pay cycle (monthly)
so we never get holiday pay paid in advance |
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| #15 05:04pm 05/03/07 |
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groydis
Posts: 1182
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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my employer has always asked me if i wanted in advance or as per normal pay schedule, in a rare case on special request they may do a special payment, but it would have to be for a decent enough reason.
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| #16 05:24pm 05/03/07 |
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Scooter
Posts: 762
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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My work (Local Council) Get paid at the normal increments. (Fortnightly)
Is an option to take 1/2 pay though (I.e. 4 weeks off, but only 2 weeks of pay) |
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| #17 06:24pm 05/03/07 |
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Zak
Posts: 1372
Location: UK
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Unless you have made a request for early payment you will probably find it in your next scheduled pay. Some employers will pay it early, but because most companies payroll system/cycle runs better without fiddling around, they will probably loathe to take the initiative and pay you before it's due.
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| #18 06:45pm 05/03/07 |
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Hogfather
Posts: 1158
Location: Cairns, Queensland
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Not to mention that early payments (leave advances) have a negative affect on cashflow.
At my work its just part of the regular pay cycle. I asked about it once and was told that its only done as normal with pay advances - for a good reason and on request. We do get leave loading and a flat 37.5 hour week as part of our contract so its a bit of give and take. The only place I've worked at where its in advance was BigW, but they worked us like dogs so it was no real compensation! |
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| #19 06:59pm 05/03/07 |
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mongie
Posts: 3909
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I've kind of ruled out everything you guys are talking about...
Its Officeworks, so it is a big company... My manager asked me if I wanted the leave in advance, to which I said, of course... So either he hasn't told head office I'm on leave at all, or more likely he didn't say that I wanted my leave in advance, either way, hes a tool. |
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| #20 08:09pm 05/03/07 |
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Spook
Posts: 17956
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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sounds like someone needs to learn some money management skills
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| #21 08:14pm 05/03/07 |
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paveway
Posts: 4602
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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nah he's not paying off a house, family car and saving for kids so it's probably not that bigger deal spook
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| #22 08:24pm 05/03/07 |
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mongie
Posts: 3910
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I've never taken annual leave in the four years I've worked at officeworks. I have more than 200 hours of annual saved up and I was hoping to use a lot of it during the three weeks that I don't have to work, and even more-so during the first two weeks where I don't have to be getting organised for my new job.
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| #23 08:25pm 05/03/07 |
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paveway
Posts: 4603
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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have you ever considered getting a decent job ?
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| #24 08:28pm 05/03/07 |
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Spook
Posts: 17957
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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nah he's not paying off a house, family car and saving for kids so it's probably not that bigger deal spook fiscal responsibility should be a big deal to everyone paveway |
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| #25 08:30pm 05/03/07 |
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paveway
Posts: 4604
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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only to the weak spook
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| #26 08:35pm 05/03/07 |
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mongie
Posts: 3911
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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oh for f***s sake... you're such a troll paveway...
I don't work there anymore. I timed it well so that I would be on leave for my last 3 weeks there - yay and I've been on leave since friday. I got a proper, full time tech job that I am starting at the end of my leave. fiscal responsibility loel I waant my f***in money f***in! |
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| #27 08:35pm 05/03/07 |
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paveway
Posts: 4605
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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haha i'm sorry alex
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| #28 08:39pm 05/03/07 |
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Spook
Posts: 17958
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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yor weak
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gimpy
Posts: 1345
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I can lend you some money mongie
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Mr Hardware
Posts: 1520
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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if you still had the LPG you wouldn't have to worry
cos you wouldn't be wasting your money on that horrible petrol s*** |
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HERMITech
Posts: 5027
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Spend your hard earned cash on chains.... 1: They can be quite usueful in using your foots momentem to tranfer that energy to your bicycles wheels 2a: They also make provide a damned fine disciplinary tool for your kids (anyone know where I can find a reseller of razor straps?) 2b: They also make provide a damned fine disciplinary tool for your wife in keeping her within reach of the kitchen |
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| #32 02:25am 06/03/07 |
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captivate
Posts: 888
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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saving for kids How much are you getting them for? |
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| #33 05:02pm 06/03/07 |
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Kat
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It was merely continued to be paid to me with my normal wage.
never heard of getting it in advance so to speak |
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| #34 05:05pm 06/03/07 |
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Obes
Posts: 4805
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Well you should have been getting Leave Loading at a minimum... well pre-IR laws anyways.
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| #35 05:14pm 06/03/07 |
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infi
Posts: 5252
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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leave loading is s***. what's it got to do with anything ffs.
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| #36 12:10am 07/03/07 |
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HERMITech
Posts: 5029
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Leave loading isn't s***.. It was originally based on the concept that you did "X" overtime during the year and that 17.5% was the approx avg you could concievably miss out on whilst on annual leave. It was something hard fought for by the unions (same as a 38 hour week) which everyone likes to just piss away and lay down over now while their employer happily sinks the boot in.
last edited by HERMITech at 11:17:02 07/Mar/07 |
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| #37 11:17am 07/03/07 |
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demon
Posts: 2674
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i always get my holiday pay in advance with leave loading... it's just a checkbox on our leave form. of course the leave form has to be submitted to management at least 4weeks in advance for this to happen without f***up.
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| #38 11:27am 07/03/07 |
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giririsss
Posts: 2361
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Nice troll obes. even caught someone.
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