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Topic: Saddam to be executed
Sover
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
cbf linking it but its on the home page here > http://au.yahoo.com/ set to be killed at 2pm today
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Kat
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Link at yahoo
Link at news.com
Sover
Posts: 256
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Thank you Kat.
Jim
Posts: 5262
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
being handed over to iraqi officials for the deed... have to wonder if he'll get squirreled away
Zak
Posts: 1296
Location: UK
Execution at 2pm.
Youtube at 2:10pm.
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 14071
Location: Ireland
f*** that, he doesn't deserve to die.

He deserves to spend the rest of his time in some hell hole being belted up by some random inmates at the drop of a hat + nighly visits from multiple 'bubba's'

Death is to quick, easy and painless for such a f***ing dirty scumbag, he needs to suffer for what he did.
CHUB
Posts: 1840
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
He deserves the punishment that a lot of people recieved.

Feet first into a tree mulcher.
Tanaka Khan
Posts: 3844
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
If he is kept alive he will be seen as an icon for his supporters, and there would be the constant fear that he could be rescued (I believe one of his nephews recently escaped from prison).
Agent 99
Posts: 1499
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeah, I heard about this a little earlier.

He wanted to be executed by firing squad but it seems he will be hung. I'm not surprised everything has proceeded so quickly since the guilty verdict and punishment passed down to him last week (i think).
Agent 99
Posts: 1500
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
(I believe one of his nephews recently escaped from prison)


that might also explain the desire to proceed with the hanging asap.
Zaphod
Posts: 140
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
cbf linking it but its on the home page here > http://au.yahoo.com/ set to be killed at 2pm today

1pm, actually - we're an hour behind, remember. :)
infi
Posts: 4932
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
He deserves to hang, straight up.
Crakaveli
Posts: 2396
Location: USA
Australia day
eK
Posts: 10118
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
"Breaking News: Saddam Hussein Has Reached the Gallows" on the telivision
Strange Rash
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and next year it'll be Kim Jong-il
eK
Posts: 10119
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Now they're saying that he has been executed.
fade
Posts: 2551
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
he's g0o0o0o0o0one
Booyah
Posts: 6850
Location: Indonesia
Now let's bring bush to justice.


Spook
Posts: 17463
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
he was helping silly
Booyah
Posts: 6851
Location: Indonesia
Help shed blood.

Where can i sign up.
d[o_0]b
Posts: 1344
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b_iuIrSGxU
Superform
Posts: 4105
Location: Cairns, Queensland
i agree.. lets hang bush and we can be rid of 2 f***tards
PHATm
Posts: 726
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
This is the better image found on news.com.au

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5345835,00.jpg
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darkjedi
Posts: 932
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
My god..... the pope really does look like Emperor Palpatine!
Booyah
Posts: 6852
Location: Indonesia
However, even as news of the hanging broke, the deaths of four troops pushed the American death toll in Iraq to three short of the emotive 3000 mark.
It's nice to know that bush is making a difference.
spoon
Posts: 34
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
If only bush had supermans super speed he could have saved them, amirite booyah?
Cubanpete
Posts: 20
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Thats one dictator less. Only a few dozen more to go. Shame on Saddam for ordering the murder of a town of Shiites in response to the assassination attempt on their Sunni leader. Sure he was a brutal mass murderer who ruled without mercy but isnt that what a Dictators job is.. We dont have any problems arming and supporting monsters in Africa.
reload!
Posts: 3402
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Serious question booyah.. and also to subhaib, irhabi etc

When they show footage on the news of Iraqi's dancing around and supporting the coalition troops, do you think that's real?

In your experience in recently being there, talking to family & friends etc, what percentage of Iraqis do you think would choose for the invasion to have never happened and Saddam still in power?

And American occupied aside, are most Iraqis generally pleased that eventually Iraq will be democratic, or is everyone there down with dictatorship?
Cl1nt
Posts: 494
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
saddam 0 - oil barrens 1
Booyah
Posts: 6853
Location: Indonesia
When they show footage on the news of Iraqi's dancing around and supporting the coalition troops, do you think that's real?
Yes that would've been the case when the troops first landed. Bush and his troops were initially seen as librators of the iraqi people from the tyranny and oppression of sadam. Though it was only a matter of time until the people of iraq soon realised that the americans didnt really give a f*** about the people and were there for their own self interest. So the footage you see now is probably old but then again i wouldn't be suprised if people (such as kurds and some shia'tes) who really resent sadam for what he did to them coming out to celebrate.

In your experience in recently being there, talking to family & friends etc, what percentage of Iraqis do you think would choose for the invasion to have never happened and Saddam still in power?
I have been told my many family and friends that they would live under sadam's rule and merely keep their mouth's shut to stay out of his way rather than having to live without basic necessities of life such as electrcitiy, water, petrol, gas and most importantly security. At least during the time of sadam they didnt have to worry about curfues and could walk anywhere peacefully not worrying about when the next bomb is going to go off. Now it's not about how expensive basic necessities can get but whether or not you could actually get a hold of it. Iraq has the second biggest proven oil reserve in the world yet its people are being handed out monthly rations and coupons cause they're only allowed a small amount whenever it becomes available, if it becomes available. Makes you wonder where is all the oil going? Anyways I'd say the kurds (who prolly make up no more than 15% of the total population of iraq) would have been all for the invasion because they've been wanting to become an independant state from god knows when but other than that the rest of the country are now against it, but after what?

And American occupied aside, are most Iraqis generally pleased that eventually Iraq will be democratic, or is everyone there down with dictatorship?
I'm not sure but i think deep down inside they all know that democracy will never work when there are some many different beliefs/idologies/races/factions inhibiting the country. I do not condone sadam for what he did to his own people but truth be said he knew how to rule the country with an iron fist and it worked to maintain security and keep the country united as one.


last edited by Booyah at 20:26:48 30/Dec/06
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Posts: 12749
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
Makes you wonder where is the oil all going?


copy/paste:

While its proven oil reserves of 112 billion barrels ranks Iraq second in the work behind Saudi Arabia, EIA estimates that up to 90-percent of the county remains unexplored due to years of wars and sanctions. Unexplored regions of Iraq could yield an additional 100 billion barrels. Iraq's oil production costs are among the lowest in the world. However, only about 2,000 wells have been drilled in Iraq, compared to about 1 million wells in Texas alone.

Most of Iraq's oil income will pay for a national budget of about $18 billion - about 80 percent of which is earmarked for government salaries, food and fuel subsidies, pensions, and other government operating costs. That leaves little money, even without considering the rising problem of oil-revenue theft, for reconstruction needs.
Zaphod
Posts: 141
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b_iuIrSGxU

At least he died doing what he loved..
BigZub
Posts: 4550
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
on arabic tv news (satelite dish) they showed his dead corpse, although it was a mobile video footage. They also showed him being put on the rope.. no hanging footage tho.

they keep repeating it... i wonder how i can capture it..
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Spook
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I have been told my many family and friends that they would live under sadam's rule and merely keep their mouth's shut to stay out of his way rather than having to live without basic necessities of life such as electrcitiy, water, petrol, gas and most importantly security. At least during the time of sadam they didnt have to worry about curfues and could walk anywhere peacefully not worrying about when the next bomb is going to go off. Now it's not about how expensive basic necessities can get but whether or not you could actually get a hold of it. Iraq has the second biggest proven oil reserve in the world yet its people are being handed out monthly rations and coupons cause they're only allowed a small amount whenever it becomes available, if it becomes available. Makes you wonder where is all the oil going? Anyways I'd say the kurds (who prolly make up no more than 15% of the total population of iraq) would have been all for the invasion because they've been wanting to become an independant state from god knows when but other than that the rest of the country are now against it, but after what?


seems to me its mainly iragi's blowing up iraqis (and anyone else who stands next to their car bomb)

16000 police killed

im pretty sure its not the americans killing the iraqi coppers

but im sure its the americans fault in the end
HERMITech
Posts: 4859
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
this movie shows him being hung up and then being dropped. It's camera phone footage tho.

Needs subtitles
Booyah
Posts: 6855
Location: Indonesia
I didn't say the americans were killing the iraqi coppers because they iraqi coppers were put in place by the americans, that's why they iraqi coppers are getting killed. It's the civilians that have had to deal with s*** cards getting pounded by coppers, national guards, suicide bombers and americans. It's a mess to say the least.
Hogfather
Posts: 1068
Location: Cairns, Queensland
Oh God, this turned into TLDR, don't feel obliged to read through it. Skip to bottom for skinny version.

But its more than just people hating the US-guided government and you know it Booyah :) If the Coalition troops left tomorrow Iraq wouldn't turn into a model of peace, prosperity and stability in the Middle-east.

The basic issue in Iraq at the moment seems to be that there are three very violently opposed ethnic / religious groups that make up Iraq. The Sunnis, who control the south and are the numerical majority by far, the Shi'ites (sp Boo?) who were Saddam's people to some extent, and the Kurds - poor bastards all the way to the north who have been pretty much everyone's bitch for a long time.

Are your family Sunni, Shi'ite or Kurdish or unaligned to these factions Boo?

Saddam used to keep everyone in line by killing large chunks of the population when people got mouthy or out of line. While his regime was corrupt, evil and flat our murdered thousands of people the rate of killing was probably less than it is now, and they had basic infrastructure.

Well, unless you were a Kurd. Their quality of life has soared after Saddam got punted, being the ethnic whipping boy of Iraq they copped the worst of the bad s***. Apparently some of the chemical attacks vs. the Kurds put what they hanged him for to shame. Anyway the Kurds fought with the Coalition in exchange for almost complete autonomy, and they got it.

Promised Skinny (ish):

What's happening now in Iraq seems to be an unlabelled civil war, which is why the police forces of the varying groups are being targetted. These police forces are often little more than legitimised local militia that by day appears to be legitimate and by night undertake a lot of s***ty activity like 'disappering' people.

According to an article I read in TIME the "federal" overseeing Government is severely lacking in reral powers. In order to get the new constitution though they had to appease Sunni and Kurdish groups who wanted LOTS of autonomy.

The Kurdish region is now basically its own little nation, with its own police, government and army.

Which is what these big analyst people I saw on an SBS panel the other day were talking about - the likely prospect of partioning Iraq into three seperate nations. The big problem with this is that the Shi'ites really don't like it because the territory they control has no known oil reserves, although there's a lot of unsurveyed territory that is expected to hold some good fields.

It also means acknowledging that its not possible to ram a Western-style democracy down the throats of the Iraqis. The Sunnis in particular are expected to almost immediately attempt to form an Iranian-style theocracy as soon as they get a whiff of self-determination. This is a big problem for teh Bush as it would invalidate his entire position on building a democratic Iraq, and basically give the Democrats an easy (easier?) win at the next election.

Edit: f***ing BBCode.

last edited by Hogfather at 10:44:50 31/Dec/06
Booyah
Posts: 6856
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Can't say i disagree with any of the above, (though from memory i think you'll find that the shi'iates are the ones that make up the majority of the population of iraq - like 60% but that could've changed and i cbf'd looking it up) but my reply to reload's post was only meant to briefly address his questions from my limited experience gained when i was there for 3 months about a year ago. Also in regards to your question my dad is a sunni iraqi born in the kurdish area, my mother is a sunni kurdish born in the republic of iraq, though some of my relatives from my dad's side who live in Baghdad are shi'iates, and i was born here. So we're all over the place but our strongest tie between us is our religion as muslims and that's what we identify ourselves as.
Zak
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Location: UK
Wow.

I can't believe I just watched the execution of Saddam. I know perhaps 9/10 people with access to the Internet are probably going to watch this footage at some stage in their life and in x days/weeks/years it will probably be considered ho hum, but it blows my mind this has actually happened. Before I knew anything about the legal/sentencing system in Iraq, I honestly believed we would never see him executed for his crimes as I thought they would try to convict him for as many atrocities as possible. Added to that I thought their appeal system would be a lot more convoluted (like the American system) than what it is.

I don't think it will have any sort of positive repercussions for either Iraq or the war, but hopefully it will bring some closure to the people and families who suffered because of him. I too would have preferred to see him locked up in solitary for the rest of his life, or perhaps subjected to some of the insane s*** his psychopathic son Uday subjected victims to, but at least he isn't able to communicate with his followers any more.

Once again, it is insane that in 2006 we can witness this - I'm not sure whether it is good or bad, and I have watched other execution footage before which makes this less shocking - but still, it's had a pretty profound impact on me.
German
Posts: 2643
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Just watched the un-cut video....saddam went pretty quick
Psycho!
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Chronicle of the atrocities committed by Saddam Hussein:

Hussein's regime killed, tortured, raped and terrorized the Iraqi people and its neighbors for over two decades.

Hundreds of thousands of people died as a result of Saddam's actions.

Saddam had approximately 40 of his own relatives murdered.

1980-88: Iran-Iraq war left 150,000 to 340,000 Iraqis and 450,000 to 730,000 Iranians dead.

1983-1988: Documented chemical attacks by Iraqi regime caused some 30,000 Iraqi and Iranian deaths.

1988: Chemical attack on Kurdish village of Halabja killed approximately 5,000 people.

1987-1988: Iraqi regime used chemical agents in attacks against at least 40 Kurdish villages.

1990-91: 1,000 Kuwaitis were killed in Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.

1991: Bloody suppression of Kurdish and Shi'a uprisings in northern and southern Iraq killed at least 30,000 to 60,000. At least 2,000 Kurdish villages were destroyed during the campaign of terror.

2001: Amnesty International report: "Victims of torture in Iraq are subjected to a wide range of forms of torture, including the gouging out of eyes, severe beatings and electric shocks... some victims have died as a result and many have been left with permanent physical and psychological damage."

Human Rights Watch: Saddam's 1987-1988 campaign of terror against the Kurds killed at least 50,000 and possibly as many as 100,000 Kurds.

Refugees International: "Oppressive government policies have led to the internal displacement of 900,000 Iraqis."

Iraq's 13 million Shiite Muslims, the majority of Iraq's population of approximately 22 million, faced severe restrictions on their religious practice.

FBI: Iraqi government was involved in a plot to assassinate former President George Bush during his April 14-16, 1993, visit to Kuwait.

The Iraqi regime has repeatedly refused visits by human rights monitors.

From 1992 until 2002, Saddam prevented the U.N. Special Rapporteur from visiting Iraq.



What goes arround comes arround I guess, I just hope the peaceful people who live in the region can get on with their lives now, prosper in some way and have a peace of some kind. When the country is left to its own management, either as three states or whatever, I just hope they get a better deal in the long run, politics/religion ect aside it must be so frustrating living in a war zone all your life. Booyah, when you tell you rellies how great it is here in Oz I guess they must think you're making it up hey? The children must grow up with a skewed vision of what is a normal life ect...they are the ones I feel sorry for.

last edited by Psycho! at 13:27:50 31/Dec/06
parabol
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маvєяık
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Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland
i didnt get to see him getting hung :( it says bandwith limit exceeded.
Bah
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hung
Hanged.
groydis
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
william hung.
Grrrrrrr
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Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland
Well, that is another scumbag put to rest.
ravn0s
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/u/U/saddam_hang.gif

hes satans bum buddy now.
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ravn0s
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yer saw it earlier. wonder if his neck snapped when he dropped.
Zak
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From what I understand, for death to be instant the neck does have to snap - the disconnection of the spinal cord rather than choking is generally what does the job. I remember reading in a few reports that apparently he did go straight away, so that's probably what happened.
Agent 99
Posts: 1501
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I know he did a lot of horrible things, but seeing that picture of him lying dead with the noose around his neck makes me sick to the stomach.
fpot
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Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Just pretend he is sleeping.
trog
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plz don't post snuff pics or films
Tollaz0r!
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An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

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Booyah
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plz don't post snuff pics or films
What's a snuff film?
Morgan
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
videos from ogrish.com
fpot
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trog: you forgot to nuke ravnos' snuff image.
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