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Topic: BCC Water Advice
demon
Posts: 2458
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yesterday i recieved a letter from the brisbane city council with 'water advice' for my property. i came in at ~70 litres per day compared with the local average of ~430 litres per day & the brisbane average of ~560 litres per day!! (although a one person household is rated at an average of ~260 litres per day.) so now i'm all for charging high end users... coz i now know i'm not one of em :P i was a bit worried i'd be using excess water because of recently purchacing fishtanks... but fukn'ell... the average household scoffs more water than all of tanks total contents in one day!

anyone else got thier bcc notices & wanna compare? :D

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TicMan
Posts: 1204
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I don't live in BCC area so not sure if I'll get this letter but I'd estimate my place would come in under the average - by a long shot.

My gf and I do everything to conserve water in our place while neighbours run rampant with their water usage and it f***s me off. I say you should be charged per litre with minimal 'free' water as part of your rates. 0-100L/day attracts X fee, 100-200L higher again and then really sting those water users in the high literage per day.
demon
Posts: 2459
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i agree. the council obviously have statistics on average water usage. they should just set a low average & charge like all buggery for usage over the average! having these current water restrictions is just kinda dumb with rules like 'no hoses' when that really can't be policed.

also... i'm tired of carrying buckets :P
infi
Posts: 4507
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
water is precious, charge like buggery.
Kat
Posts: 8428
Location:
The letters are usual sent out with the rates. I doubt that most QGL'ers would get a rates notice :)

But yes, the brisbane average is disgusting
Cubanpete
Posts: 17
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Deporting the arab c*** who keeps having 30 minute showers in our household would help Brisbanes water supply
ravn0s
Posts: 4606
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
we got a letter a few months ago saying we were using 1000 litres a day. think it was a typo cause theres no way we use that much.
CHUB
Posts: 1601
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Our house was 430L's, but we got 5 people.
Jim
Posts: 5070
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
those averages they quoted are crazy demon, can't believe that bloody hell

we were averaging 160 of town water a day for family of 4 before we got tanks

I've often wondered why water isn't charged as a utility like electricity, it doens't seem to be figured into land rates as anything other than a set amount (as opposed to adjustable based on your water consumption) because as far as I can tell they are static
Kat
Posts: 8431
Location:
I've often wondered why water isn't charged as a utility like electricity,

Umm, it is. Within your rates.
taggs
Posts: 1083
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
but it isn't priced properly. until the government allows the market to price water we will always have rediculous overconsumption leading to retarded water crises.
Jim
Posts: 5071
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Umm, it is. Within your rates.


It's not itemised on our rates as being a water component, nor have our rates fluctuated accordingly from period to period. We're in logan council tho, so I dunno if your rates are itemised showing water as a different amount each time.

Are they?
Obes
Posts: 4548
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
This link says they are ... it also says you can't read jim
HERMITech
Posts: 4667
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
we got a letter a few months ago saying we were using 1000 litres a day. think it was a typo cause theres no way we use that much.

You would be surprised how much water is wasted daily that you just don't notice.

A dripping tap can waste more than 35,000 litres of water a year. That's something like 95 litres a day. How many taps do you have in your household? - I have 10 taps (2 external and 8 internal). We also have 3 toilets.

Long showers use around 10 to 20 litres a minute, so cutting a 10 minute shower down to 4 minutes will save approx between 60 to 120 litres of water and leaking toilets can waste around 20-40 litres of water an hour. Old style shower heads use about 20 litres of water per minute.

Soon adds up, especially if you add in another random factor of a an external pipe connecting your house to the mains if its leaking.
Le Cock
Posts: 3638
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
U might wanna think about showering, Demon : )
demon
Posts: 2460
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
jim, i think this 'water advice' is the beginning of having a breakdown of water consumption on your rates bill... that's what the fine print at the bottom of my water advice letter says. i checked an old rates bill & it doesn't have a breakdown of charges... it just says 'bcc rates & charges' & 'state govt charges'.

yer, the averages are mad. no wonder there is a water shortage with those crazy averages. when the govt finally starts charging serious money for over-supply of water i could make a few bucks scalping my extra water to neighbours! ;D

U might wanna think about showering, Demon : )

but then i wouldn't be a dirty smelly demon :D



last edited by demon at 14:58:02 07/Nov/06
Jim
Posts: 5072
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you'll always be a dirty smelly demon to me
just like obes will always be a crusty drunk obes, now with improved reading skills
Bah
Posts: 2237
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I like what happened in WA when they privatised water and charged for it.. water shortages so everyone is told to conserve water, everyone does, water company cries they arent selling enough water and put the prices up.
typo
Posts: 5233
Location: Other International
Old style shower heads use about 20 litres of water per minute.


The old style shower heads are so much nicer to shower under :(
shad
Posts: 1704
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Demon is so metal he showers with a sand blaster.
typo
Posts: 5235
Location: Other International
Shad is so hardcore he showers in with khel's mum.

last edited by typo at 17:41:21 07/Nov/06
TicMan
Posts: 1207
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
No breakdown of water usage on our rates notice in Pine Rivers.
cainer
Posts: 1227
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
its not our fault the government with all the fat profits over the last howeverymany years have failed to reinvest it in more dams, more recycling, more desalination whatever. there is no reason for us to be in such a water shortage, its only now that we face running out of water in a year and a bit that they are starting to get worried.

vote 1 "more nuclear power plants and more desalination plants" party
floyd
Posts: 20
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I get a breakdown of water usage on our rates notice.And im @ Tingalpa.
Don`t the rates notices all come from 1 place.
whoop
Posts: 10603
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The old style shower heads are so much nicer to shower under :(

we had a water saving shower head thing once that was so retarded if you turn it on too much a valve would close and shut off the water completely letting NOTHING come out. It was made of plastic and needless to say one day it just blew itself appart, literally.
Scooter
Posts: 686
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Don`t the rates notices all come from 1 place.


No. Rates are all done within the local council.

Jim: We're in logan council tho

Obes Link: Brisbane residents receive the water advice with their quarterly rates account.


Logan doesn't, not that I read my dad's rate notices.
Our Trucks use recycled water though :o Thats good right?

last edited by Scooter at 22:12:31 07/Nov/06
typo
Posts: 5239
Location: Other International
we had a water saving shower head thing once that was so retarded if you turn it on too much a valve would close and shut off the water completely letting NOTHING come out. It was made of plastic and needless to say one day it just blew itself appart, literally.


The one we had would spew water out in a compressed cone of water that was almost painful to use. I suppose the logic of the designer – if someone actually designed it – was that if people were in pain when they used it, they would have shorter showers.

So, I went though E-Bay and found one of those old school shower heads and installed it. Hmm, awesome showers where mind again.

Before anybody cries pure jizz at me about how I’m wasting water, our house is on a water meter and we get charged on volume and we are well below the average usage of water.

Don`t the rates notices all come from 1 place.


Why would city council rates all come one place?
sLaps_Forehead
Posts: 2624
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah am gonna have to get a tank. rang up today to put a 5000L on order.

waiting time is 12-15weeks!!!
TicMan
Posts: 1210
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
How much coin is the 5000L tank going to cost?
Kat
Posts: 8436
Location:
5000 is more than $4000 I know that much.

We got junk mail that had the prices
Le Cock
Posts: 3639
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Water saving shower heads are f***ED. U get like these tiny sprays of water hitting u - it's useless. U need to stand under it 10x as long to actually wash all the soap off so their purpose is defeated too.
demon
Posts: 2465
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i'd get a rain water tank but first i'd have to spend about $10k getting all my roof guttering & downpipes replaced with ones that don't leech evil s*** into the water :( then i'd have to knock down one of my sheds to find a place near the roofing to put the tank. then there is the price of the tank, the pump, the plumbing...etc. then the maintenance... tanks n pumps get dirty n have to be flushed fairly regularly.

i'm not gonna get a rain water tank. :/
sLaps_Forehead
Posts: 2628
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Sorry you are wrong Kat. 5000 LITRE! 'Poly'/plastic tanks cost no more than $1100. You must have been looking at a 5000 GALLON price.

Here's an estimate for me:

Tank $1075
Leaf Guard $65
Pressure Pump $370
First Flush $65
Installation approx $250 (mates rates)

Total : $1825

Less rebates - $1500

Net Cost = $325
Denominator
Posts: 517
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
who is installing your tank becase if it is not approved installation no rebate
Kat
Posts: 8457
Location:
Okay, I was wrong
Dopefish
Posts: 71
Location: Other International
Okay, I was wrong

Bitch
sLaps_Forehead
Posts: 2633
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I have a mate who is a plumber
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