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trog
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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After a long wait, Slackware v11.0 has been released! The first Slackware release more than a year in the making, this edition of Slackware combines Slackware's legendary simplicity, stability, and security with some of the latest advances in Linux technology. Expect no less than the best Slackware yet.Get your Slack on via BitTorrent. |
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| #0 03:17pm 03/10/06 |
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TicMan
Posts: 1089
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Nice to see the old war horse still churning out releases.. do you still compile everything from source?
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| #1 03:21pm 03/10/06 |
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ccl
Posts: 44
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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sweet. thanks for the update.
/patiently awaits bigpond mirror ;) |
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| #2 03:28pm 03/10/06 |
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Opec
Posts: 4276
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Damnit, I've just upgraded mine old file server to Slackware 10.2 about 2 months ago :( Oh well didn't look like that much different. Going from Klunky redhat 7 to Slackware 10.2 was huge, things just seem to run so much better with Slackware 10.2. :)
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| #3 03:34pm 03/10/06 |
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parabol
Posts: 2623
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Damn I only just installed v10 a few weeks ago.
do you still compile everything from source? I was never aware you needed to. For the last two years at least it's been a binary install. Again I must stay that I still think this is the best distro to quickly install and start software development on. As much as I also love Gentoo, you really can't install an up-to-date version of that within a day. Being such a barely-modified distro, almost all generic man-pages and tutorials can be used if you need help with Slackware. This is in contrast to Redhat/Ubuntu, etc where you need to download specific guides since they abstractify everything with overly-simple and buggy GUIs that hide what's really happening. Granted, Ubuntu isn't meant to be a development distro (gcc isn't even installed by default!), but my argument stands. If you want a Windows clone, stick to Windows! |
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| #4 03:36pm 03/10/06 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 19406
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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do you still compile everything from source?My slackware box @ home hasn't been updated for a while, but what I personally do is install the core base OS off the install ISOs and then other stuff that I want (apache, mysql, etc) I compile from source and install into /usr/local/[application name]. I hate having crap scattered all over the place. edit: bpfiles is up |
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| #5 03:48pm 03/10/06 |
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ccl
Posts: 45
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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fantastic. thumbs up.
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| #6 05:03pm 03/10/06 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 19407
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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(DVD ISO and the source ISOs still coming)
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| #7 05:17pm 03/10/06 |
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ccl
Posts: 46
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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eh grabbed the dvd too.. nothing like excessive downloading at the expense of your provider.
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| #8 10:52am 04/10/06 |
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Opec
Posts: 4279
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Short answer no, long answer yes if you really wanted to optimise the application or have some customisation you wish. Also speaking of maintainability, I only just recently discovered a Debian-eque apt-get for Slakware called slapt-get. It's pretty good little apps to update the Slackware packaes.
And for the CLI gumby, you can also get a GUI version called gslapt-get which is GTK version of this app. |
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| #9 01:02pm 04/10/06 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 19420
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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eh grabbed the dvd too.. nothing like excessive downloading at the expense of your provider.that's why local mirrors are awesome - because the only expense is the first-time download. After that everything is gravy. |
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| #10 03:23pm 04/10/06 |
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Obes
Posts: 4508
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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death to sysV :(
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| #11 12:10pm 05/10/06 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 19424
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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sysv ftw!
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| #12 12:15pm 05/10/06 |
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parabol
Posts: 2630
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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You've got to be kidding, unless software development consists of "Hello world" in C. What's your argument? You install slackware, most *common* development libraries are installed and you can begin coding straight away. You install Ubuntu, well you don't even have gcc or most of the development libraries on there by default, so you can't even create your precious "Hello world" in the first place. With Debian or Ubuntu its trivial to get every library or tool you could ever want without understanding the dependency tree You have to manually install them all, which I would guess would take longer than installing a development-friendly distro in the first place, which was my point. Ubuntu isn't aimed at developers. If your goal is programming, then why would you chose a distribution that is mostly focused on multimedia, office applications and eye-candy? Anyone can download a tarball and compile the software. I can't really argue because I have absolutely no idea what the point of your post is. |
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| #13 06:56pm 05/10/06 |
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Hashy
Posts: 3530
Location: Netherlands
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HeardY
Posts: 13526
Location: Ireland
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why don't ya just ban him?
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| #15 10:19pm 05/10/06 |
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ccl
Posts: 47
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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Well I'll be installing it tomorrow. I'm a linux newb, and Slackware is the goodest for thats. (Thanks to recommendations from here). I learnt more from my slack install then all others combined (debian, ubuntu, gentoo).
Debian package management was cool, but really frustrating when you're clueless. Ubuntu was a bit too idiot proof for my liking, and Gentoo... well let's not go there. |
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| #16 11:22pm 05/10/06 |
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Opec
Posts: 4281
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Yes you can http://slackwiki.org/Upgrade_Using_Slapt-get last edited by Opec at 00:51:40 06/Oct/06 |
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| #17 12:51am 06/10/06 |
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Opec
Posts: 4282
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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heh so true, it's because Slackware doesn't treat its users like an idiot - unfortunately this is why it's not "popular/mainstream" distro. But I must say it's definitely getting so much easier to maintain the system now with the improvement of the package manager and the likes of application like slapt-get. There's a classic comment on slashdot about slackware:
I also like FreeBSD, maybe there's a pattern here, I just loath SysV *nix..... |
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| #18 09:18am 06/10/06 |
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ara
Posts: 818
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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I was a slackware fanboi for eons before playing with ubuntu. ubuntu is what i use now but mainly because slackware's userbase has shrunk and ergo their support by other software vendors for example, vmware. |
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| #19 09:43am 06/10/06 |
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Opec
Posts: 4283
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Yeah that's a problem when it became a "niche" distro. Pity really I reckon vmware server + slackware would really rock hard. |
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