Hey, Im getting a exhuast system on my vz ute. Im going to get the whole lot. I have got prices from GUN PERFORMANCE at stafford. Anyone recommend somewhere.

Rob Bliss @ Geebung.

Rob Bliss @ Geebung.

also had mine done there, and will be getting another one done there later this year

do it

One that works f*****.

your mum goes to college

Yea that is where i got my first one done. Didnt get the whole system but. What does he use. Or what do u recommend for extractors.

Mr Muffler at Mcgregor.

http://scooby.mongie.net/images/drag-flopperseat.JPG

mmm shiny

just get some extractors and a side pipe

Exotic Exhaust @ Summner Park.

also looking at exhaust for a vu ute

few mates said Right Price at Springwood do a decent enough job

Are you getting everything or just the larger pipes?

everything

Have u got any prices yet? From gun
88 for a resinator
240 for 2.5inch system
60 for twin tip
240 for high flow cat
and 600 for extrctors

Extractors depend on your engine setup.
Extractors and exhaust system will have an impact on the scavenging effect.

That being said, if you don't actually really give a s***, just get cheap as hell extractors and mufflers to give off the sound you want.

If the above is true I'd just go with whoever is the cheapest to be honest.
Unless you're actually optimising the flow of the heads and doing headwork it's all just wank factor noise pollution.

And secondly: Single exhaust systems are better for performance (supposedly), but Dual give off a far better sound.

I say supposedly on performance because as far as I'm concerned, Extractors and exhaust setup that's perfect will still yield a f*** all power gain.

last edited by Loki at 18:51:36 20/Aug/06

cats are already pretty highflow, if yours are in decent nick i'd reuse them rather than spend $240.

that is of course if your not going for total hardcoreness. for those prices i dont assume so

So a dual system gives alot better sound hey? What would u recommend... Its a Vz ute, the new V6 alloytech engine.

Well its a new car so the high flow would be in good condition i would imagine. But would it fit the new system?

why waste your money, quite car > over a loud one anyday.

fyi gun peformance stick fully sik vynal stickers on your car, tell them not to stick that s*** on.

lol ok

Well, it's a bit o fa personal opinion.

Some people actually prefer the sound of a single-system.

From what I've seen with most V6's or V8's.

A dual-system you'll get more of a 'v8' or 'broken' note over a BROAD rev range, makes the car sound like it's revving slower than it really is in the higher revs, deeper 'gruntier' note typically (though dependant on your mufflers)

A single-system gives more of a 'droning' or 'smooth' kind of a note and to a lesser extent, at some throttles and rev's a much less throatier "v8" kind of note.

Maybe something like::

Dual 2" pipes, Balancer Pipe (or X-Pipe if you so wish), Heard that 'Walker Super Turbo' Mufflers supposedly sound very tough - But I don't have enough experience with different mufflers to say which sound best. And as for extractors, cheapies will sound just as good as expensive extractors (as most of the sound comes from the mufflers and whether its single or dual), the difference will be how well they flow (and thus effecting performance - which isn't much of a gain even with superior extractors anyway).

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last edited by Loki at 19:25:47 20/Aug/06

Yea i want to get away from that droning sound, rather it have the throatier note to it like a v8. How much more would the dual system be ova a single?

Well you need the balancer (doesn't cost f/a) or the Xpipe (More expensive and not sure it's really worth it imo; both do essentially the same job).

Biggest extra expense is fairly obvious: Cats, mufflers and tips with the dual setup.

Piping isn't really that expensive, the extra few feet used doesn't add up to much.

You can skip on the balancer or the xpipe if you really wanted, but i wouldn't recommend the "thong slapper" =]


[edit] To be honest you'd have to ask the other guys about that, my car doesn't have or legally require cats so I've never had to change them or buy new ones with any of my exhaust setups :)

last edited by Loki at 19:43:30 20/Aug/06

Yea true, thats not too bad but. Do u think it is worth getting a new cat put on, the car is not even a year old, would the new one be better than the one on it ?

2.5" one muffler, extractors

lots of broom


also go to rob bliss at geebung<

Thats what i got last time, from rob bliss, it was bit to drony after awhile. Ill have to give him a call and work out some prices.

I get all my exhaust stuffs from rightprice in moss street.

goto rob bliss

yeah just don't get a fart cannon like 90% of noobs do. Get something that sounds the s***, but not one that makes ya car sound like its about to explode.

And what type of car do you have BJ, and how much did your exhaust cost.

bj i dont know if you're taking the piss out once again but after so many times of boasting about how much better off you are than anyone else and sucking yourself off i think you really are a f***ing tosser.

this thread has been staying on topic remarkably well, other than a few exceptions. see if you can all keep it that way for a change.

i've been to performance pipes in the past and i was pleased with the results.
also, my dad's taken each of his utes (1x v6 and 2x v8s) to jack beedham at redcliffe and they all sounded pretty tough. they were probably just cat-back tho.

last edited by cerb at 07:36:34 21/Aug/06

so ill just say to go right price on moss street and ask what they got on special

There's nothing at all wrong with going to right price. If you want to go and spend $5k on a full titanium exhaust system for your rice burner that's your priority but in my opinion it's f***ing worthless unless it's a track only car with no carpet, no seats, no windows and carbon fibre everything and you're worried about every gram of weight.

On a normal street car a sports exhaust from just about any retailer would suffice.

but then you could also ask the question, why bother spending hard earned dollars on a 'performance exhaust' when you are sure to get your ass handed to you by billy riceboy in his "insert 1.3l+ turbo here" based car. big stonkin v8 whipped by a swift turbo with an engine 1/4 its size and 1/10th the cost. i dunno ? cars meh.

well I don't know about you, but I have a "performance" exhaust on the kingswood because I like the way it sounds rather than for power increase. I'd get my ass handed to me by a paper boy on a pushbike but I don't care because my engine is n/a over 30 years old (I think?) and all it cost me was a carton of beer for the extractors and a hundred bucks or so for them to be fitted and an exhaust mounted. If I wanted a power increase I'd go ahead with my idea of the supercharged 1uz (plus the numberplate 1UZHZ would look pretty)

There's "performance" exhausts, and then there's full on $12k race systems, that's all I'm comparing here saying going the full race system is pointless unless you plan on doing some stupid ammounts of weight reduction, slapping a 900hp motor in and taking it to the track. Sports exhaust is gonna sound pretty much the same so why not pay I dunno what $1200? for it as opposed to $12k for something that still won't enable your car to beat billy rice boy.

Pipes pipes pipes.

You want it to sound like this

2000HP Twin Turbo v8 running at 1k HP for a street run haha.
Sounds like mine did when i had nothing but extractors :<

last edited by Loki at 07:56:41 21/Aug/06

I've got Dual 2.5" exhausts from the Pacey Tri-Y extractors back on the Munro. Cost about $1400 all up from Noizeworks out at Brendale and I didn't get a resonator.

IMO - It's not worth getting the exhaust unless you plan to have an LS1Edit done (provided of course you have an LS1).. if your getting an exhaust on a Commo V6 then you need to spend your money elsewhere.

^ $1400 sounds about right.

I spent around that on the Torana for my dual 2.25 as well, including extractors; but I fitted them myself so I imagine a fair bit more in labour for extractor fitment as they're a c*#$t of a job on my car, and I can only imagine on a new engine with no room under there they probably cry their tits off everytime someone wants extractors put on those things.

The only thing I can possibly recommend that I'm kicking myself I didnt do:

HPC Coat your extractors - it reduces bonnet temps by a magnitude of a metric s***load.
And Flange your extractors and exhaust!!! This way you can unbolt and bolt your exhaust without having to cut the exhaust off (incase you need to remove the engine for whatever reason or wish to change exhausts).

I completely forgot to ask to have mine flanged :<

last edited by Loki at 15:24:59 21/Aug/06

hehe, flange

I love a good flange!

extractors make a bit of difference, i had a cat back on mine for ages it didn't do much but i was like 'i'll get extractors next week' and it didn't happen for like a year but then when i eventually did i was like why the f*** didn't i do this earlier

that said i'm going to need a new exhaust at the end of the year, only reason i got extractors was cause i blew the exhaust gasket/maybe broke a stud so i was like f*** it and got it done.

jumping from a restrictive (read quiet) exhaust to a straight through 3" pipe with a hotdog, netted me 30rwkw

get a sidepipe

I took the VE SS-V for a test drive yesterday and with its Quad exhausts it makes a damn impressive noise at full throttle.

yer, i had a couple of ss dunnydoors gassing up at the lights next to me last nite on the trip home form netty (there were like 3 different commodores wanting ot have a go, just on the trip home)

even wifey had to admit, they sounded ok with some pipes

no way they'd be under 90db though

pretty much any non standard pipe and you are over the legal threshhold

Mine are way over 90db - I got pulled up by the Dept. of Transport doing vehicle checks and the guy asked me to rev the engine a bit and I figured I was going to end up with a huge fine and demerit points.. he walks past the door with a smile and says "Wow, sounds nice - you can head off now".

Got talking to the guys at drift king, they said the whole system would give about 20kw increase, the system would cost 1500, thats with pacemaker. I have also heard that if u get extracotrs it voids your warrenty. I have that 3-6yr one on mine cause it was new. But supposable you can get a system from cats back.

it only voids the warranty on the exhaust, though that is covered by the place you get the new one from.

i have a vy ss with pacemaker tri y's 2.5inch with hotdogs, sounds nice. got it done by right price exhaust $1500 full stainless

Rob Bliss is FTW got my old falcon done there, my bro lancer and my subaru.

That where i got my carmealan Titatium exhaust from (cant spell) <----- how many people got one of those????

you put a titanium exhaust on a regular impreza? :S

Thanks for that bOOn, where did you get that done. And where did you get information about the warranty from?

lol what the hell titanium exhaust on a WRX :\

i got it done at Right Price Exhaust, in moss st, springwood.

only reason i know that about the warranty is a few mates work for holden.

Hey has anyone heard of powerflow exhuasts, the brand. They make stainless steel mufflers and that. Are they any good, why are they better than other brand mufflers

you only have to be <90db at 3.5k or something

not full throttle

90db aint real loud

whats the retail on one of those?

f*** you daniel

I don't know about cars but I think it's some fraction of where the bike produces it's maximum power, possibly half way when doing the stationary noise test. I usually just look for the little sticker that tells me what revs it's meant to be at :p I would assume cars would work on the same principle of half max power rather than a set RPM. I'm probably wrong though.

why are you so god damn gay matt

yes, you are

Think the retail of the powerflow muffler is about 250. They last a lifetime casue they dont rust out.

sif u guys luv my car!

http://members.optusnet.com.au/diana_z/straight pipes.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/diana_z/Straight Pipes Rear Side.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/diana_z/Straight Pipes Rear.jpg

www.streetcommodores.com.au/forum_3

will answer all your question as its a commodore forum...

Eugh, I hate those f*****y exhausts with the twin pipes that aren't really dual pipes, just dual from the diff back.
Gayest exhausts evar.

Under the diff.. QQ, zomgz it flows better manz 0.001 hawwwwwsepower.

Although I did go under my diff but only cause I had to.

Sorry, no offense if that's actually your car, but it's gay.

last edited by Loki at 23:08:22 27/Aug/06

Nah their just pics I stole from www.exhausttechnology.com

Although now that I think about it, those would have to been the best that I've seen. Usually their dual muffler or something, but none of that s*** with those ones!

yeah loki thats such a s*** exhaust with no cat and mufflers, just a straight pipe, i'm sure it won't flow better than standard at alll

Nelly Furtado - Promiscuous [03:53m/192Kbps/44KHz]

you're crazy loki, twin straight pipes are hotness.

Actually on the exhaust thing - I'm about to trade in my Monaro on a new SS-V and the dealer has hinted he'd prefer it to be kept in original condition. So provided the price is right I may be selling a set of Tri-Y pacemaker extractors + dual 2.5" exhuasts all the way back.

PM me if your interested and throw a price up.

i dunno about over and under diff, my exhaust goes over diff and it looks real restrictive compared to under, my exhaust for my turbo engine will deffinately be under diff, i guess it was done over diff cause i didn't ask for it

Pave: It depends on the car to how tight the bends need to be in order to go over the diff and the piping size.
Thus sometimes you have to go under the diff.

yeah loki thats such a s*** exhaust with no cat and mufflers, just a straight pipe, i'm sure it won't flow better than standard at alll

I don't remember saying anything about mufflers and cat's for the effect on flow.

I also don't remember saying anything other than it looks gay, and under the diff is 90% people circle jerking like putting 5" exhausts on a stock excel or a side-pipe on their R32.

you're crazy loki, twin straight pipes are hotness.

Yeah i know, I just don't like twin pipes to one side like that, I think it looks f***ed up.
If the car then has those twin pipes again on the other side, That would be alright.

Just the same I don't like single-exhausts (aesthetic wise) because its asymmetrical when viewed from behind, two to the one side just seems twice as bad.

Symmetry is good, imagine a car that was half curved (new commodore etc. style) shape and half squared old valiant style, it'd be ugly as s*** (ignoring practicality here).
Symmetry ftw, it's all around us - good looking people have typically good facial symmetry as well.

If you're going to re-design the exhaust, either keep it the same as factory (single and to one side) or split it into dual down each side.
I'm aware some cars come factory with those dual pipes to one side as well, I don't like that either :/

last edited by Loki at 13:12:43 28/Aug/06

haha, you're weird. Perhaps you'd like it if cars had two steering wheels as well :)