i found some sausages in the freezer that haven't been taken out of the packet and have been sitting there for ages, i dont know how old they are maybe 6-8 months in the freezer, do they go off or am i sweet to eat them?

you're all sweet man, frozen bangers never hurt no1....and if you still aren't sure, host a bbq an get ya best mates over, tell em to bring the beers an you'll supply the meats

win win situation.

if it was me, i would do a taste/smell test

I think you have to ask yourself if your ass can handle a few possibly sickening sausages

I think it's 3-6 months with frozen meat and/or meat products.

Take em out, thaw em. After they are all squishy like, smell them. If they smell bad dont eat em.

i had about half a sausage but it didn't taste what i remembered a sausage to taste like so i made some eggs instead. lol

so what makes you sick when you eat off meat?

its only the bacteria isn't it?

surely you could burn the absolute s*** out some pretty rank sausages and eat them without problems

would u eat a totally charred grilled possum?

surely you could burn the absolute s*** out some pretty rank sausages and eat them without problems

Why would you even bother...

if i was hungry, desperate or an abbo

yes i would

"Why would you even bother..."

god knows, it was purely hypothetical

its only the bacteria isn't it?

surely you could burn the absolute s*** out some pretty rank sausages and eat them without problems

It's not necissarily the fact that the bacteria (or fungi) are alive. Often they produce toxins that remain in the cooked bacterial ooze.

For the original topic, meat apparently goes off eventually in the freezer. Not sure why though.

It's the toxic biproduct of the bacteria reproducing that poisons you.

eat them. if you don't die they're ok. if you do die you aren't gonna care because you'll be dead.

Ok we'll get whoop to try out grunt's sausage. Hopefully you'll die anyway so we wont have to hear about your homo exeperience on the net.

Ok we'll get whoop to try out grunt's sausage. Hopefully you'll die anyway so we wont have to hear about your homo exeperience on the net.

Ill give you a sausage!

For the original topic, meat apparently goes off eventually in the freezer. Not sure why though.

I'm sure it is because the freezing process dosnt compleatly stop the chemical reactions that occure to make meat go off. It sssllloooowwwwwwsss it down a fair bit tho giving it much longer life.
Same as a fridge, except when you freeze something the ice crystals formed can damage it and kill the active ingredient in some things, which is why sometimese freezing something isnt good for it. How vague is that :)

Unless,I think, you freeze it ultra rapidly at high pressure, something like 20,000 Deg/second or higher, and it has to be throughout the product too. Impossible with current tech.

last edited by Tollaz0r! at 20:22:14 02/Jun/06

They're OK to eat grunt, just make sure they are still pink in the middle to achieve maximum gut-wrenching success from your sausage experience.

I'm sure it is because the freezing process dosnt compleatly stop the chemical reactions that occure to make meat go off. It sssllloooowwwwwwsss it down a fair bit tho giving it much longer life.
Same as a fridge, except when you freeze something the ice crystals formed can damage it and kill the active ingredient in some things, which is why sometimese freezing something isnt good for it. How vague is that :)

Unless,I think, you freeze it ultra rapidly at high pressure, something like 20,000 Deg/second or higher, and it has to be throughout the product too. Impossible with current tech.

You're right, that is vague. Your also right that chemical reactions continue in a freezer albeit slower. However I thought going off was caused by biological activity which I thought couldn't proceed in a solid environment (i.e the water inside a cell being frozen). Then again maybe the meat itself can randomly break down into bad things by itself over time? I guess any number of the assumptions I made could be wrong.

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I've got some tubesteak and gravy you an have Mav ...

^^^ Don't they teach that s*** in schools anymore??

I remember a primary school teacher explaining to me how freezers worked back in the 70's

I'm sure they still do, it's just that back in the day when you had to walk 30km to school in the snow, uphill both directions, you needed to pay more attention. Not just because of the effort to get there and back, but the threat of capital punishment... (simple corporal punishment is for girls).... and don't get me started on the new and scary mobile phone ring tones and MP3 players...

if you're having a big party and you're a decent cook, then yeah - sausages go off

sausages go off like a frog in a sock.

quick!@ to the internet!

Just buy some more fresh ones, ya tight git!

hm, i want that hill chakas, to and from school is uphill, thats pretty physics defying

They don't exist these days, that's why the younger generations have it so much easier.

not only did they have to walk uphill in the snow, but they had to wear shoes made from barbed wire too.

and when the barbed wire went rusty and fell off, they bathed their sores in vinegar, as water was not readily available back then.

And if they fell over on the way from all the pain, wild dogs attacked them. Not just ordinary wild dogs, but wild dogs with severe anger management problems!

And the dogs have bees in their mouth, so everytime that they bark they shoot bees at you.

not only did they have to walk uphill in the snow, but they had to wear shoes made from barbed wire too.

and when the barbed wire went rusty and fell off, they bathed their sores in vinegar, as water was not readily available back then.

Isn't the snow frozen water?

So by the sounds of it, water was in fact plentiful.

Therefore I cast doubt on your vinegar story.

last edited by mission at 09:59:06 04/Jun/06

Isn't the snow frozen water?

So by the sounds of it, water was in fact plentiful.

Therefore I cast doubt on your vinegar story.

How are you planning to melt that snow with no power, fire or other heat sources? Most people's core body temperature would have been well below normal range so the last thing you'd want to do is use some of your own body heat to melt it.

True. But-

I question the liquidity of the said vinegar. You would only have a small temperature range of approximately 2 degrees celcius for the water to be frozen and the vinegar to be not frozen.

Thus if your unfortunate uphill walk to school and uphill walk home from school, complete with barb wire shoes, in the freezing snow and being hunted by ill tempered wild dogs that shoot bees from their mouth, was at precisely -1 degree c, then I may consider the validity of your arguement as the water would be frozen yet the vinegar would not.

As we all know, the acetic acid content of the vinegar influences its freezing point. This vital piece of information is somewhat lacking and making it difficult to draw a convincing conclusion.


last edited by mission at 15:10:55 04/Jun/06

Well, obviously you'd have to use vinegar with a much higher acetic acid content than 5%. Sure it would hurt more but you'd have no other options.

Not to mention that the snow was tainted with cyanide in those days, but that's a completely different matter.

Ahhh yes, the old cyanide snow. Twas a problem back then. Many fell victim to its tainted ways.

Any vinegar with a acetic acid content greater then 5% is generally too tart for cooking with so bathing your sores is probably a good use for otherwise unuasable vinegar.