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Topic: really hot.
demon
Posts: 2050
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
a mad pic & an even madder story on yesterday's apod! as scientists continue thier research to develop a workable fusion reactor they have made some unexpected discoveries with thier experiments.
The most recent advance resulted in an output X-ray power of about 290 trillion watts -- for billionths of a second, about 80 times the entire world's output of electricity.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0603/zmachine_sandia.jpg
The plasma reached a temperature in excess of two billion Kelvin, making it arguably the hottest human made thing ever in the history of the Earth and, for a brief time, hotter than the interiors of stars. orrrjeh. :D thats HOT!
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Opec
Posts: 3988
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
What I wanna know is, how in the hell did they even measure anything that hot? The tempurature was apparently hotter than the sun, wouldn't that vaporised just about anything known to man?.

Please explain!

last edited by Opec at 11:05:19 14/Mar/06
Rodolphe
Posts: 215
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
how the hell do they measure 2 billion kelvin ??
casa
Simes
Posts: 1579
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Thats impressive.
orbitor
Posts: 7057
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I assume they'd measure the heat signature of the emitted radiation.
HERMITech
Posts: 3731
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

With sufficient distance between themselves and it...
demon
Posts: 2051
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i imagine that as they are creating a plasma contained by a really strong electromagnetic field, they would measure the strength of the x-rays produced to determine the temperature... or something like that! :P~ it certainly wouldn't be a mercury thermometer heheh.
Jim
Posts: 4098
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
it should be obvious to any dimwitted individual who holds an advanced degree in hyperbolic topology
WetWired
Posts: 2612
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
they stuck a thermometer up a nearby scientists arse
scuzzy
Posts: 12022
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
When was this test done, because that photo is most definetly not recent?
ravn0s
Posts: 4088
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
wheres doc oc?
Booyah
Posts: 5016
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Up your butt oc.
demon
Posts: 2052
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
scuzzy: the z-machine is about 10years old... so the photo could have come from anytime within the last 10years. the latest test, where they achieved 2 billion degrees K, was done in feb.2006 & the news release was March 8, 2006. considering that the main mission for this project is military... we are lucky to have any pictures i rekn.
Stez
Posts: 3128
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
These guys are gonna blow up the planet!
taggs
Posts: 704
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
thats pretty cool. WAIT NO IT ISNT ITS HOT LOLOLOLOL

forgive my noobness but isn't the only thing holding back fusion technology that they couldnt make the hydrogens hot enough to turn into heliums, so now they are closer to making sexycool power stations?
eP
Posts: 1874
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
mummy
scuzzy
Posts: 12023
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
demon: ahh fair enough, Just wasnt sure if that photo was the same test as what they are now talking about :)
thre3dee
Posts: 1125
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
thats some psycho s***!
but cool nonetheless

last edited by thre3dee at 16:39:46 14/Mar/06
HERMITech
Posts: 3735
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
thats some psycho s***!

If psycho's s*** is as hot as that, no wonder he's having some medical problems
eXemplar
Posts: 1625
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It'd be funnier if the containment field f***ed up and the damn thing ignited the atmosphere.
HERMITech
Posts: 3736
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
^ "Welcome, To The Black Mesa, Research Facility"

"Freeman, what are you doing no.. Nooo.. NARGHHHHhhh" * pzzfffttTT *
eighty-eight
Posts: 210
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
so yeah... whats the go with that picture? i don't understand it..
shad
Posts: 1586
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
eagerly awaiting a meltdown and it burning into the earth
Fish
Posts: 2006
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
omfg! that's so pretty
ravn0s
Posts: 4090
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
eagerly awaiting a meltdown and it burning into the earth


spiderman will come to save the day
maxe
Posts: 12056
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

forgive my noobness but isn't the only thing holding back fusion technology that they couldnt make the hydrogens hot enough to turn into heliums


i heard fusion was do-able, but Cold Fusion (or fusion acheived in a safe, practical way) hadnt been acheived yet.


Then again I heard that in High School
Psycho!
Posts: 5524
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It'd be funnier if the containment field f***ed up and the damn thing ignited the atmosphere.


yeh. makes you worry a bit hey. What if in some secret lab they 'accidently' created a tiny black hole...woooshka!.. we all go down the cosmic s-bend.
idonwananame
Posts: 144
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
"forgive my noobness but isn't the only thing holding back fusion technology that they couldnt make the hydrogens hot enough to turn into heliums"

they have had fusion reactors work but too much energy needed to get up to temperature thats why u always hear about cold fusion.
ravn0s
Posts: 4092
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i thought scientists did make a tiny black hole
step
Posts: 1109
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Experiments with the Z Machine are helping to explain the physics of Solar flares, design more efficient nuclear fusion plants, test materials under extreme heat, and gather data for the computer modeling of nuclear explosions.

Cwazy
HERMITech
Posts: 3737
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i thought scientists did make a tiny black hole

^ there's a witty retort in that line somewhere....
Obes
Posts: 4275
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Many years of going to whitey's place have left a scar on demon.
BigZub
Posts: 4182
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hell's fire is hotter.
demon
Posts: 2061
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
2 billion degrees K is still not hot enough for a good fusion reaction without the massive pressure of the sun. the sun & stars like it use this pressure to overcome the coulomb barrier by tunneling & can achieve effective nuclear fusion at a much lower temperature. 'cold fusion' is a theory that has never been verified with successful experiments afaik.

i dont think anyone is about to make any black holes anytime soon :D black holes need a lot of mass to form... more mass than we have in our entire solar system.

hell's fire is hotter.

how hot is it? & how do you measure it!?! :P
First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different Religions that exist in the world today. Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added. This gives two possibilities:

1) If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.

2) If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.

So which is it? If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that, "it will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you", and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number 2 must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore, extinct...leaving only Heaven thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting Oh my God.

teehee.
Psycho!
Posts: 5527
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
If psycho's s*** is as hot as that, no wonder he's having some medical problems


hahaha only after a huge night on the curry, man I could cut through titanium after a big vindaloo.

:P
PornoPete
Posts: 76
Location:
Nice quote demon i loled
Psycho!
Posts: 5532
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Demon, isnt that quote actually from apaper a guy in the US submitted for his thesis in Physics...from memory the tutor gave him an 'A' for the method and theory he put forward. :P or is that another urban myth. :(
demon
Posts: 2063
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
pornopete: :]

Psycho!: yeh that's the story i heard too... but a quick check with good ol' snopes revealed that the above quote is a variation of the original story.
still funny though :D
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