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Topic: Human genes still evolving
Opec
Posts: 3973
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
New research seems to suggest the we are indeed still evolving.


Providing the strongest evidence yet that humans are still evolving, researchers have detected some 700 regions of the human genome where genes appear to have been reshaped by natural selection, a principal force of evolution, within the last 5,000 to 15,000 years.

The genes that show this evolutionary change include some responsible for the senses of taste and smell, digestion, bone structure, skin color and brain function.

Many of these instances of selection may reflect the pressures that came to bear as people abandoned their hunting and gathering way of life for settlement and agriculture, a transition well under way in Europe and East Asia some 5,000 years ago.


Very interesting read.

Full article here

Props to slashdot.org
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ravn0s
Posts: 4059
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
/awaits religious debate
d[o_0]b
Posts: 673
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
cool read nice find.

to be expected though of course we will still evolve, such is the circle of life.
korbs
Posts: 1048
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Very interesting read, cheers Opec.

TufNuT
I like eel pie
Posts: 2492
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
X-MEN!!!
dice
Posts: 837
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
/awaits religious debate
Two&Eight
Posts: 53
Location: UK
Debate? No that's where you take into consideration points made by the opposition. Anyone who dares to believe in the bible or a God in general are immediately denounced as gullible, weak, narrow minded fools. I won't be bashing my head against that brick wall again. You can all crack on though.
thre3dee
Posts: 1122
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i wonder when we'll evolve into robots
korbs
Posts: 1050
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Anyone who dares to believe in the bible or a God in general are immediately denounced as gullible, weak, narrow minded fools.


You're a christian dude, you THRIVE on persecution... :P

Though I don't share your beliefs, I can understand that they're important to you and i respect that. It's when people start spouting utter nonsense (young earth creation) that rational people start labelling you those things, because it's clear that you place a higher value in blind-faith than observable reality.



last edited by korbs at 14:29:19 09/Mar/06
amyescence
Posts: 243
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
X-MEN!!!For realsies.

/awaits religious debate

Negative. Too much effort. That, and there's no sense in rehashing the same points/opinions/views/etc in another thread.

The genes that show this evolutionary change include some responsible for... digestion...

Yes, we've all grown a lining of fat on the inside of our stomachs so that the Maccas sits better. :-P
dice
Posts: 840
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Negative. Too much effort. That, and there's no sense in arguing points that are obviously wrong when there's so much evidence coming out supporting the people I keep trying to argue with.

fixed
Loki
Posts: 6564
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
What we're evolving?! We can't be! I read the other thread!
WetWired
Posts: 2608
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
No that's where you take into consideration points made by the opposition.


"God did it" isn't a valid point
Dopefish
Posts: 10
Location: Other International

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Music By: Wm. B. Bradbury





Jesus loves me! This I know,

For the Bible tells me so;

Little ones to Him belong,


They are weak but He is strong.

Yes, Jesus loves me!

Yes, Jesus loves me!

Yes, Jesus loves me!

The Bible tells me so.



Jesus loves me! He who died,

Heaven's gate to open wide;

He will wash away my sin,


Let His little child come in.

Yes, Jesus loves me!

Yes, Jesus loves me!

Yes, Jesus loves me!

The Bible tells me so.



Jesus loves me! loves me still,

When I'm very weak and ill;

From His shining throne on high,


Comes to watch me where I lie.

Yes, Jesus loves me!

Yes, Jesus loves me!

Yes, Jesus loves me!

The Bible tells me so.



Jesus loves me! He will stay,

Close beside me all the way;

He's prepared a home for me,


And some day His face I'll see.

Yes, Jesus loves me!

Yes, Jesus loves me!

Yes, Jesus loves me!

The Bible tells me so.

amyescence
Posts: 245
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Oh yay, Sunday school music. Now let's have tea and scones.
XandraX
Posts: 751
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
This should not come as a surprise to anyone with any basic knowledge of genetics. Random genetic drift, natural selection and random mutations are all constantly (as in every second) changing the gene frequency of humans. Why the article needed to be written I have no idea. No new information.
eXemplar
Posts: 1595
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Obes
Posts: 4265
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I propose an anti mutant law.
amyescence
Posts: 249
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Mmm, that veiny backside is soooooo attractive.
Stez
Posts: 3101
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
haha everyone go hire out "Family Guy - Stewie: The Untold Story". I won't spoil, but the flashback to Jesus is the funniest thing I've seen ever.


btw, of course we're still friggn evolving. How can anyone (even religious freaks) argue with that?
amyescence
Posts: 250
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
btw, of course we're still friggn evolving. How can anyone (even religious freaks) argue with that?

Agreed. People evolve every day - even I agree with that one.
CHUB
Posts: 1231
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
haha everyone go hire out "Family Guy - Stewie: The Untold Story". I won't spoil, but the flashback to Jesus is the funniest thing I've seen ever.
Hahaha, that nearly killed me.
existence`
Posts: 5820
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
10 pages.
groydis
Posts: 628
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i evolve in the pants. its called an erection.
Tanaka Khan
Posts: 2644
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i evolve in the pants. its called an erection.


So small changes then??
groydis
Posts: 630
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
from 12" to 13" i spose its only a small change.
Skitza
Posts: 7106
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
At least 10 pages haha
groydis
Posts: 631
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i could fill 10pages describing the evolution in my pants.
fpot
Posts: 12662
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Then we'd all see what premature ejaculation looks like in 300 point font.
Cl1nt
Posts: 43
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
fpot wins. ^-^ again.
Erik-the-Red
Posts: 2074
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
You're a christian dude, you THRIVE on persecution
dude, i almost fell off my chair when i read that
z0r
Posts: 1408
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
You're a christian dude, you THRIVE on persecution

dude, i almost fell off my chair when i read that
quoted for accuracy
WhiteWolf
Posts: 2195
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
/awaits religious debate
er, ok, thats enough

i'll defend my point, MICRO EVOLUTION IS PROVEN FACT AND IS UNDESPUTIBLE CONSIDERING WE SEE IT EVERY f***ING DAY. YOUR f***ING DUMB TO THINK THAT CHRISTIANS ARE JUST GOING TO FIRE UP AGAINST YOU BECAUSE YOU THINK THAT WE ARE ALL IGNORENT FOOLS. GO f*** YOURSELVES!

*phew* praise jesus.
Agent 99
Posts: 602
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I think this thread is evidence that human genetic evolution still has a long way to go.
Persay
Posts: 3941
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
god created us to evolve
dice
Posts: 871
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
why didn't god give you all more brain power?
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 7290
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Whitewolf, the swearing, tsk tsk. Also dosnt your bible command you to 'turn the other cheek' and show forgivness. I understand your not perfect, however you cant let that be an excuse ;)
korbs
Posts: 1064
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Macro and micro evolution are exactly the same thing. The terms were made by the Russian entomologist Iurii Filipchenko in 1927 to reconcile the discovery of DNA with evolution.

Somehow though, the terms have been hijacked by the young earth creatioists, stripped of their original meaning and used as a loophole for them to cling to their bronze-age mythology while masking thier cognitive dissonance by acknowledging the indisputable fact of evolution.
Read about it

It also gives them the loophole necessary to still be able to use modern medicine (anti-biotics especially) without feeling like massive hypocrits. Because hey, even the most diehard fundie knows deep down that the man upstairs isn't going to cure their kid's nasty middle-ear infection.

last edited by korbs at 15:39:04 13/Mar/06
Jabroney
Posts: 321
Location: Queensland
Evolution in Humans is Dead

evolution is a bias towards a certain trait in a species to allow it to reproduce more. This doesn't happen in humans anymore, ppl are reproducing for the heck of it, not because the alpha male is beating his chest the hardest or because he can protect his women better. The nerdiest guys are reproducing just as much, so are the dead set losers.

So yea, evolution in the human species is over...

imo
nF
Posts: 12099
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
you're clearly an expert on evolution jabroney.

evolution is simply the change in the genetics of a population itself, it doesn't have to be directed

a shift in what traits are more likely to be carried into the sucessive generations is evolution, even if its not what you'd consider for the best.

theres no such thing as de-evolution.
taggs
Posts: 699
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
wouldn't the different circumstances just change what qualities natural selection is preferring? As in 5000 years ago the biggest, strongest male got all teh poon cause he could feed niggas by killing mammoths and whatnot, whereas nowadays intelligence would be preferred because it gets you phat lewt? Then again there are alot of retards who are breeding so maybe not.

edit: zomg my grammar sucks, who's the retard now :(

last edited by taggs at 00:06:08 14/Mar/06
ravn0s
Posts: 4087
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
so when will women rule the earth because they no longer need men?
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