I'm sure this is a common issue for most BF2'ers so I'd like to hear some other rants from other players about times they have been punished for totally unintended, non-deliberate TK. Also, if anyone has any good methods about getting revenge in some manner I'd also like to hear that. I'll start with my whinge(s) from last night;

1. Hanging around in the factory (southern most flag on Dalian Plant) trying to defend against waves of APC's and tanks as an engineer. I'm on the northern walkway above the entrance to the flag area and an APC is trying to come in so naturally I drop a few mines around that area. APC gets destroyed a short time later leaving several of my mines around that exit. I then go south along the walkway to stand on the balcony at the southern entrance and I notice a team mate driving a jeep to the north exit toward my mines. At the last second he gets out, the jeep rolls forward and goes over my mines and he gets killed, giving me a TK. He then punishes me for a TK.

2. Same map, same flag about 3 minutes later I'm still on the balcony above the southern entrance with a tank that has come in. Needless to say it's causing havoc and nobody seems to be AT class. So I drop a couple of mines down as it reverses toward my position on the balcony and it dies, but also takes out a team mate who was in the vicinity not doing a great deal. Again, tk and he punishes.

It's so frustrating considering you work so hard to get points in the first place, tk punishing is one of the biggest drawbacks of the game. That said, having a decent game with a decent squad does make it all worthwhile :)

Yeah, annoying as hell when you get punished for random s***. If the person just had a brain for a second *sigh* an thought about what they were doing when they got killed, then they might understand and not punish.
I always do that when I play if I'm TK'ed. I've even on occasion apologised to the person who TK'd me for dropping their Team Score for just being plain dumb in what I was doing but hey, that's just me.
I'm not going to get on the TK punish bandwagon an just hope that some may come to learn by example an think before they punish.

One way that you could avoid accidental TK's would be if your within a certain radius that NON squad members on your side could actually hear a voice warning. It s***s me to tears that you can be walking alongside someone an not be able to talk to them an give em the rundown on whats ahead. Even with decent typing speeds you just can't get he message across in time most cases

Hey Crunch, think that I've actually played on same server as you both against an with at some stage

Yeah the whole TK system needs to be reworked but keep in mind the purpose of TK rules.

I think that by modifying so mines cannot cause TK just like they did for commander's arty, the whole problem will be solved (Maybe this should apply to claymores too).

Or they need to keep a tally of the number of times you punish, then servers can ban high punishers. Just a TK'd/TK-punish total. Let admins chose to ban any account that has > 20TK'd with a punish ratio of 50%. So if you've been team killed more than 20 times, and punished for less than ten of them, you can join.

It's important to count mines/claymores as TKs since otherwise people would be complete and utter wankers with them.

There is just so many retards who will get in the road on purpose if you get a vechile they want, or they will run over mines/claymores etc.. alot of people have this game and it's always going to happen. I'm over TK's I laugh when it happens to me these days, they're just wasting their own time.. so who gives a s*** about losing some points for a punished TK? Not I!

Just play your game matey and don't worry about it eh..

Not a bad idea Nats, a ratio on TK Forgive vs Punish should be considered, possibly a little harder? Would definatley make people think about who should be punished when they know they could only punish one or two people so I'm sure you'd save it up for the real problem cases.
It would certainly weed out a lot of people who just punish based on the fact that "oh, they would have done it to me". Almost like making somoen responsible for their own actions eh?

You can thank your uncaring friends at Electronic a******s for all of this.

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