Well, for the past few days (and years even) I am continually seeing videos and reports on the Japanese doing whaling.

Be sure, there's always some GreenPeace dude's there standing up for what they believe in.

It's really starting to get to me, I'm pretty sure i've never felt so strongly towards animal rights before.

It's horrible watching them harpoon some great big water mammal then drag them up through the back of their ship... like a lifeless doll.

Actually, now that i think about it it makes me feel a little sad.

Especially when you see images of people trying to jump on the whale aswell to let it go or whatever they think they are trying to acheive.

(Brave bastards, deserve a tap on the back, considering they are just trying to look after the worlds assetts - and they get blasted with water guns n s*** whilst trying to do their jobs).

I mean, whales are for sure a dying breed and the japanese eat them, I'm not even sure if they use them for anything (perfumes etc). Not that I know how they taste, but it's kind of like saying "YEAH LETS EAT PANDAS MAN" Spitroast some giraffe's and s***.

But what really get's to me is that anything else other than food, can be made from anything that else when it's concerned to whales.

I guess it's the same with Chickens, Pigs - you know, etc etc...

But I guess they are bred in captivity in s***ty little cages n stuff and they are so f***in' many of them, it doesn't really matter.

BUT IT DOES.

Whales are free, they live freely in the world (2 thirds of our world is water) and they are getting f***ed over by these c***s.

I'm sick of it, I don't know exactly where I stand on it all and i'm pretty sure when it all went to the U.N. they weren't allowed to whale in certain places, and Japan paid countries to let them whale in their waters.. (I think) not too sure.

I see signs everywhere around town, with a photo of a pig in a cage it barely fits in... gets me wondering... I'm not saying i'm gonna go and join greenpeace or anything.

Especially when the world is as wasteful as it is..... POVERTY.... why? There is enough food on this planet to feed 6 times the population there is.

(ok going off topic) but anyway, I'm not too sure what i'm trying to say, what are you're thoughts on whaling?

I say stop it, everywhere.

Someone should drop a nuke on their asses.

Actually, I'm not too concerned if they chop up the occasional whale or two.

As long as they don't go overboard with it...

I prefer my whale baked not fried.

agreed murderer... even more agree partyhat.. they are starting to get too confident, need another nuke to shut them up for 50 years.



tho i would never join greenpeace, i applaud their efforts and passion to stand up for these innocent helpless whales.

Brave bastards, deserve a tap on the back

I think you mean pat on the back. Tapping someone on the back is something you do just before you kill them or smash the f*** thru their face.

i don't see my continous harpooning of poor, defenceless kittens making the news

look in our own backyard with people eating big arse turtles and dugongs, not like we can talk.

Errr, we eat turtles n s***?

f***ING AUSSIE c***S..

But your serious?

"cannibal ferox" or something is a movie where I saw some bastards slashing up a turtle made me feel sick to the stomach (literally - and I have a pretty bloody strong stomache)

Maybe, i'm just turning into a pussy?

Turtles also, how the f*** could u bring yourself to eat one of them?? I mean f***, it's not like it's a sport to get one, not like they can f***in run away.

Sifn't get two turtles, duck tape together = unstopable animal, cos turtles are only screwed when they're on their backs.

Siiiiiiggh, I dunno :(

they get blasted with water guns n s*** whilst trying to do their jobs

people get paid for jobs

No s***, it's not like Greenpeace is a high paying job, and it's not like they are rejecting people because they employ too many people?

There's probably less than a 100 of them in Australia.

Not that I know (i havn't been to greenpeace.com.au? or anything so...)

You don't even need a job to get paid.

Ranting and raving achieves nothing ... if you really are concerned about this issue then do something about it.
Join an organisation that tries to stop these things happening.

Screaming bloody murder untill the end of time about something and doing nothing about it is worse than futile.

I was just asking other peoples opinions on the topic, if I was in a position to do something about it I would.

There's nothing an army of me and 25,000 people could do anyway.

Time to don the koala suit in the queen st mall if u really care.

Perhaps 25000 people couldnt make a difference ... but maybe a million worldwide could?
You will never know untill you try of course.

Alot of people indicate feeling a great sense of personal injustice over this type of thing and then they do nothing but whine about it for the rest of their lives having done nothing to actively fix the problem.

I for one do not feel one way or the other about the issue as we as humans have been eating animals since we evolved and see it as a natural part of our life cycle.

That people could choose more appropriate food is never in doubt but I won't tell then what they can and can't eat (apart from other humans ;P).

and stop slandering the japanese, they make fine motor vehicles

Some of them out of whales.

Whale is nice. Quite oily but it's a nice delicous treat.
The Japanese are hunting sea cows and you are hunting land cows.

I like my whales freerange.

Japanese make nice motorbikes and ride on lawn mowers.

I'd still prefer a ducati anyway.

I'm not going to whine about this for the rest of my life, it's just something I thought about for a little bit today after seeing a few ads and reports, I was just curious as to whether I'm alone on it or what not.

It would take a lot more than a million people, considering something like 26 countries are against it anyway.

There you go then you answered your own question :)
Alot of other people share your view.

"cannibal ferox" or something is a movie where I saw some bastards slashing up a turtle made me feel sick to the stomach (literally - and I have a pretty bloody strong stomache)

If you stop eating meat you'll turn into a giant pussy. It's true I saw it on southpark.

There is something so cheap about killing something that cant defend itself. At least a cow can charge at a farmer for a bit of revenge, but whats a whale gonna do, stain you clothes with arterial blood?

you can't compared cows to whales so don't even try

offtopic: and on the 7th day the japs created the RB26

you complain about an animal being killed, yet we as a country have the highest toxic emissions per capita which leads to FAR more species extinctions then any whaling ever will. we eat our national icon. our main staple is a sacred animal to a majority of the worlds population. we stick our noses in other countries conflicts. we jump whenever america tells up too. we have politicians that observe a minutes silence for a drug trafficer. we 'rescue' east timor, yet take their only natural resource, and give them a pittance.

so what if they want to eat whales, you werent alive for it, but australia had one of the biggest whaling industries in the world in the past. we are quite responsible for the current situation of whale population. there is alot more in life to worry about then a country that wants to eat an animal. sure its brutal to watch a whale get harpooned, but i dare say a majority of you lot would turn vegetarian if you were to goto a slaughterhouse and watch a cow or pig or sheep get killed just so we can eat.

so there, its a bit rich for us to judge other countries when ours is so f***ed up as it is.

I give money to Greenpeace. Yay.

I've been to a quarry and seen all that sort of s*** happen, it's not very nice to see (mind you I didn't touch any meat for atleast a month).

There are alot of faults about Australia, just as there are faults about any other country.

Truly, I think we live in One of, if not the best country in the world.

I'm proud to be Australian, and we stick our nosees in other peoples business because we can see that it is wrong etc.

But then again we should mind our own business in alot of area's and deffinately tell America to get f***ed, but i'd rather be with them then against them.

The Japanese are hunting sea cows and you are hunting land cows.

You can farm cows... you cant farm whales. I'd be all for it if whales were a "replenishable" resource but if you're going to keep killing something until they dont exist anymore thats pretty gay. Cows arent about to go extinct any time soon.

I'm glad to see you're taking an interest in whaling, murderer. Although it's hard and emotionally disturbing to watch the killing of an individual whale, we have to look at the broader picture. The IWC (International Whatling Commission) won a fantastic victory this year over Japan and Norway which drastically cut down the amount of whales they are allowed to kill per year. This will hopefully mean that there will be 'sustainable' whaling, so the people still get a bit of whale meat and the minke whale (which is the type they go after) population won't decline.

However, whether these two countries abide by the new laws remains to be seen.

Strange though, that the sight of a whale being slaughtered abhors you so much, when i'm guessing you had turkey/chicken/beef for christmas dinner yesterday (apologies if you're a vego). Did you feel a pang of guilt for the animal that was killed so you could enjoy a christmas feed ? Do you feel bad when you squash a cocroach ?

I'm not having a go at you, but it's interesting to think why we couldn't stomach the thought of one type of animal being killed (eg. kittens), but others don't present any moral objections (cows/chickens/pigs ect..) why do you think that is ?

You can farm cows... you cant farm whales. I'd be all for it if whales were a "replenishable" resource but if you're going to keep killing something until they dont exist anymore thats pretty gay. Cows arent about to go extinct any time soon.

You IDIOT. Maybe that's what all the scientific research is about.
They may need whale DNA for their farms.

whatever turns you on...

"if you were to goto a slaughterhouse and watch a cow or pig or sheep get killed just so we can eat"

"I've been to a quarry and seen all that sort of s*** happen"

Sorry I just had to have a little giggle at that, teehee!
I think the word you are looking for is abattoir, that is of course unless you have watched many a poor endangered granite or slate be ruthlessly slaughtered to build our buildings and roads.

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Anyone notice the irony of this thread?

The Japs are hypocritical bastards. There is nothing scientific going on here, ZERO. It's ALL for the meat industry such as resturants and markets. And to keep it alive they buy off poor countries that have no interest in or are not relevant to whaling. Mostly carribean nations and some african ones. Just to get more votes at the IWC. It's all a giant scam and they should be shamed througherly. Of course nobody does anything about it, as they don't want to 'upset the apple cart' so to speak. Japs also demand respect for thier traditions, laws and culture, yet on some issues they don't respect others in the same way. Very detestful behaviour. The whole whaling scandal is all i really hate about the Japanese, pretty good otherwise.

OH A_W THE WISE ONE HAS SPOKEN OUT! EVERYONE QUIET!

The whole whaling scandal is all i really hate about the Japanese, pretty good otherwise.

omg how benevolent of you. Maybe one day you'll graciously stoop to the level of the common man and learn to spell?

So where's the error then Mr English?

"througherly, resturants, i.

Thats about all I found but is it really all that necessary to be able to spell perfectly and to have perfect grammar to get a point across?

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i laugh at those who throw their money away at greenpeace. buy yourself a big bag of weed, and some tallyhos. you'll get a better feeling from that than paying some dredlocked student to get hosed.

I've seen many an animal be slaughtered.

Illegally and legally, i've seen horses been shot, I've seen people that have had to kill over 200 sheep because they were all sick from some stupid s***.

I've had blood spray on my face. u may think it's bs but oh well.

My dad use to be a butcher for a few years when I was 12 to 14.

Kind of scarred me a bit, but oh wellz :)

Chicken, Beef etc is much more commercialized, it's not like you can go to the shop and get a whale burger or anything, and i think the sheer size of the whales might play into it aswell?

I have no idea why cows, chickens, pigs etc don't affect as much as whales / kittens etc do (kittens are tame pets anyway).

How is smoking weed going to make you feel any better about something being slaughtered?

If you wanted to get involved with greenpeace etc, you'd just send them $10 a month and that'd make u feel better than just getting stoned.

Thx Xy. I asked since max didn't actually quote the incorrect part while going off at it. The T word was a guess.

Agreed with Murderer. There's millions upon millions of cows, chickens, sheep. and they have been farmed for many centuries. All for food.

There are some practical problems with whales. They are as big as a house up to much much bigger. You'd need an awefully large enclosed area to 'farm' even 1 pod. And a perimeter of very very high strength. It's totally unviable. This is why current hunting is not sustainable. Unlike beef, poultry, lamb which is easily mass produced.

by 1956 whaling stations were operating at Norfolk Island and Moreton Island (near Brisbane) in Queensland, and at Byron Bay and Eden in New South Wales. Between 1950 and 1962 nearly 12,5000 humpbacks were killed and processed along the east coast.

http://www.bigvolcano.com.au/human/whaling.htm

looks pretty easy to jump on this bandwagon. like cainer said, the world is being faced with more derious problems, fix them first, then we might have time to worry about some giant bits of meat.

Anyone notice the irony of this thread?

Surprised it didn't rate a mention yet, some guy with the moniker "Murderer" screaming about whale ... murder ;)

cainer - if you choose to focus on the things you do not agree with about Australia, you will end up with a skewed view of your country. Take a more wholistic view bud and you'll find on balance we're one of the better nations.

That and half your stuff was basically just made up - a "majority" of the population on this planet are not Hindu bud!

Asif my nickname has anything to do with my views :)

I say we start farming humans, they'd prolly taste pretty nice.

I give my thumbs up to cainer and what he wrote. I am sure he was not literally saying that the majority of people in this world are Hindus. He was just trying to make a point that there are a s*** load of them in the world, and we eat their most sacred animal.

We fry it, we roast it, most of us love it; hell I do! I don�ft see any Hindus in little boats sailing to Australia and trying to ram our country in a futile attempt to get us to stop eating cows.

Onto Japanese and I guess racism. . . We should be careful not to label all Japanese as heartless scum because of the minority and a few small fishing boats. Many Japanese oppose whaling. The same as we would not want the Japanese to label us as all being racist because of the s*** happening at Cronulla recently. I think it is far more intelligent to judge each individual on their own merits. It is unintelligent to judge an entire race on the actions of the few.

The same as we would not want the Japanese to label us as all being racist because of the s*** happening at Cronulla recently

i doubt they would, japan is one the most racist/xenophobic nations on Erf

Whale flavoured beef!

Cha-Ching! Aussies save teh world again

Yeah sure, we could forget about the whales, fix that problem later.. And then find out they are extinct for ever? Yeah good idea..
I say someone needs to get tough on japan and tell them to f*** off and stop killing endangered species.
I consider myself abit of a greenie, im just getting sick of the lack of respect for the enviroment nowadays.

Look, we could talk about this problem until the cows come home. Then we could eat the cows. Then what would we have? Well, we wouldn't have any cows, that's for sure.

I think it is far more intelligent to judge each individual on their own merits. It is unintelligent to judge an entire race on the actions of the few.

true... unless thoes few are in a position of power. like a political leader perhaps?

and you can't judge a country on individual merit. thats just stupid. you have to judge them on the people that represent japan and its views.

By that philosophy, we would view all Americans in the same way we view their government. Just because they elected him, repeatedly, doesn't mean that they are all evil . . . just very, very stupid.

The Japs are hypocritical bastards. There is nothing scientific going on here, ZERO.

You need a clue A_W so here is a list of Scientific Journals Arising from the JARPA project.
There are about 120 articles, just to save you from counting

http://www.icrwhale.org/eng/IWC48.pdf

i laugh at those who throw their money away at greenpeace. buy yourself a big bag of weed, and some tallyhos. you'll get a better feeling from that than paying some dredlocked student to get hosed.

I dont know about you, I however, have the mental capacity to understand that sometimes things are a little more important then just the feeling in your own little world of body/mind. Besides, you could always give money to Green Peace AND buy a bag of weed, then smoke up knowing you at least got some dredlocked student hosed..

After reading this thread I went out and I killed a whale, it was fun.

I dont know about you, I however, have the mental capacity to understand that sometimes things are a little more important then just the feeling in your own little world of body/mind. Besides, you could always give money to Green Peace AND buy a bag of weed, then smoke up knowing you at least got some dredlocked student hosed..

i have the mental capacity to understand that greenpeace's extremist ways don't accomplish anything. they do things the wrong way to achieve anything, but guarantee people like you will continue to fund them.

see: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/08/1049567651003.html

Yup, and glady!

So, do you give money to anything?

Nothing would piss the japs off more then greenpeace killing all the whales.

Actually I reckon you could domesticate whales pretty easily, breed them smaller and bang! mountains of cash.

I find it hard to have any respect for the actions of or people involved in organizations such as greenpeace after their moves to shutdown the sport of foxhunting in Europe - dooming hundreds of foxes and unlucky wildlife to slow painful deaths by 1080 and the like. Nice job!

Yeah, true Toll. Without it they wouldn't have a cover story would they? It's all filler to hide the commerical meat trade. The only thing they are learning is how to get more meat more efficiently.

Infact the japs even once threatened to pull out of the IWC if they were blocked too harshly. There's an honest move. Be good if they would just stop lying and admit what they are doing. But shame is a huge thing in thier culture.

A_W why don't you have John Butler's man babies you dirty f***ing hippie.

But you white aussie haf such big penis.
our japanesese penis is rearry rearry smarr.

I've been to a quarry and seen all that sort of s*** happen

You... eat rocks?

A_W why don't you have John Butler's man babies you dirty f***ing hippie.

I laughed, I cried, I ctrl+c'd. ROFLOBSTER


Japanese companies are always making things smaller. For example, mobile phones are like 30% of the size they were 10 years ago. I'm sure they'll breed some special tiny whale people can raise in their bath tub and kill whenever they want. They'll cross the whale genes with pot-bellied pig genes. Let's all just hope they'll splice!

We have to wipe out whales now, or by the year 3000 they will have taken over the oceans and take sweet revenge upon us.

A_W, if you wanna give us your grand view of the world that we're too narrow minded and ignorant to comprehend, you really should provide some references. It's easy enough to say countries bribe each other to get whaling rights etc, but proof is nice too...

It's easy enough to say countries bribe each other to get whaling rights etc, but proof is nice too...

dude, you can tell just by looking

Proof not required when it's widely known.

It is widely known that you are the most retarded poster on QGL A_W, yet you insist on supplying us with even more proof.

Small world you live in.

Proof not required when it's widely known.

Thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard. It was widely known for centuries that the earth was flat....

ok, A_W said it in a wierd way, but that doesn't mean he's wrong. It is pretty widely known that japan 'bribes' other nations on the IWC for thier votes. There was a pretty big scandal where a government official from the solomon islands blew the whistle on it all.

Here's an article:

Japanese Bribery Exposed by the Solomon Islands

Former Solomon Islands government officials have admitted that Japan paid for the
island's pro-whaling vote at the International Whaling Commission. The revelations came as a result of a probe into the loss of millions of dollars from the nation�s treasury.

The officials stated that Japan met the Solomon Islands costs of attending International Whaling Commission meetings, and provided pay-offs to Solomon Island politicians and election contributions.

The government of the Solomon Islands officially admitted on July 17th that millions of dollars in cash paid by Japan and other countries for fishing rights made its way into the hands of island officials.

This revelation by the Solomon Islands exposes the lie behind the claim by Japan's Institute for Cetacean Research which earlier this year angrily rejected accusations of buying votes.

The Solomon Islands voted with Japan to lift the moratorium on commercial whaling at the commission meeting in Ulsan, South Korea, last month contrary to a pledge by the country's Prime Minister, Sir Allan Kemakeza, to Australia's Environment Minister
Ian Campbell that they would not.

Japan's bid failed to reach a majority, let alone the necessary three quarters, but the Solomon Island vote angered Senator Campbell, who described it as "foul." Sir Allan is yet to decide whether to sack his Fisheries Minister Paul Maenu'u who represented the Solomon Islands at South Korea.

Sea Shepherd Conservation Society and other conservation groups have long complained about Japan's vote-buying at the commission. It now has the support of African, Caribbean, and Pacific developing nations which, on paper, gave it a majority at Ulsan. Only the failure of several of these nations to arrive for the meeting prevented Japan from winning a majority.

Japan has repeatedly denied claims it buys votes and has tried to have environmental groups that make such claims thrown out of the commission. Sea Shepherd Conservation Society has repeatedly accused Japan of bribing nations in the Caribbean, Africa and the Pacific.

The appearance of Nauru and Kiribati at Ulsan, alongside the Solomons and Tuvalu, heightened Australian concerns about Japan's influence in the Pacific. Diplomats from each of these nations have denied that their votes had been bought by Japan.

Each of these tiny nations, (for example Tuvalu with a population of only 8,000 people) has a vote equal to Australia or the United States. If Japan can bribe and recruit enough of these small countries, they can overturn the global moratorium on commercial whaling.

Former Solomons IWC commissioner, Albert Wata, detailed the bribes from Japan. "The Japanese pay the government subscriptions," he said. "They support the delegations to meetings, in terms of meeting air fares and expenses.�

His claim was backed by a former Solomon Islands fisheries minister, Nelson Kile, who said Japan had been paying the fees for a decade.

A spokesman for the Institute of Cetacean Research said some people might be confused about who was giving them assistance to attend meetings. "It isn't actually the Japanese government. You would be hard pressed to find any link with the Japanese government."

This is, of course, true. Japan is quite good at hiding their corruption. It is only when the bribed nations reveal the corruption that allows for the truth to be revealed.

In addition to bribing small island nations, Japan is funding the World Council for Whalers based in Port Alberni in British Columbia, Canada, to encourage aboriginal whaling worldwide.

The Japanese have a global campaign to encourage the escalation of whale killing ranging from the promotion of aboriginal whaling to bribing poor nations for their votes.

Japanese whaling ships are preparing for a massive illegal whale slaughter in the Antarctic Whale Sanctuary at the end of this year. Sea Shepherd intends to intercept this pirate whaling operation.

�Japan has become a lawless nation when it comes to exploiting the world�s oceans and slaughtering whales,� said Captain Paul Watson founder and president of Sea Shepherd Conservation Society. In addition to disregarding international conservation law, Japan is now undermining the governments of small nations with bribes to officials thus encouraging corruption and scandal in these nations. We�ve seen the damage that Japan has done in St. Lucia, St. Vincent, and Grenada, with the encouragement of corruption in exchange for votes to kill whales. Now with the admission by the Solomon Islands of what we have known all along, we call upon the International Whaling Commission to investigate the motivation behind each of these puppet nations in joining the IWC.�

There's tonnes more out there, just do a google search for "japan bribe IWC" and see for yourself. Don't be so quick to jump on A_W, when it really is quite widely known.

I jumped on him cos it was a stupid thing to say, not because I thought he was wrong.

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With a stupid comparison. You mistakenly interpretated it as a general across the board comment when it was only about this particular issue. But such happens regulary cause text has no tone or visual expression. It's ok.

Japan currently has 2 whaling programs running. One that started in 1987 for the Antarctic and one that started in 1994 and was renewed in 2000 for the North Pacific. During this time over 24,000 whales have been slaughtered for "scientific" purposes.

Tollaz0r, the document you provided details scientific research papers from 1989 to 1998. This means that during that time, for those 120 papers, approximately 11997 whales were killed. That�s about 100 whales per paper. Seems a bit ridiculous for research of an animal whose gestation period can last from 9-18 months and doesn�t reach sexual maturity until they are about 6-10 years of age.

The sale of the meat from this research is supposed to fund more research on these creatures but when they�re releasing about 7 papers per year, it doesn�t really seem worth it. Especially when their research according to whaling.jp consists of: �A large range of information is needed for the management and conservation of whales, such as population, age structure, growth rates, and age of maturity, reproductive rates, feeding, nutrition and levels of contaminants. This type of important information cannot be obtained through small DNA samples or analysis of organochlorine, but only through lethal research�.
Now isn�t that irony. Studying reproductive rates with lethal research!

Their comeback to all of the s*** about whaling being bad, and �why don�t they give up their tradition� is :
�We cannot agree with this view. Asking Japan to abandon this part of its culture would compare to Australians being asked to stop eating meat pies, Americans being asked to stop eating hamburgers and the English being asked to go without fish and chips.

Attitudes toward animals are a part of national cultures. No nations should try to impose their attitudes on others.

Anti-whaling countries regard whales as sacred, and want the ban on whaling to continue on the grounds that a humane killing method is not ensured or that whaling itself is unethical.

But it is questionable whether the whaling conducted by westerners in the past was humane or ethical. To this argument, the westerners might respond that was the very reason for them to have halted whaling.

But this argument is nothing but a misconception. Whaling in western countries was conducted to collect whale oil, whether it was ancient sailing-boat-type whaling or modern whaling. It died out naturally as it lost its industrial importance after petroleum became more readily available.

On the other hand, whaling in Japan was mainly carried out for the production of meat, and because of strong demand for whalemeat in the domestic market, whaling can still continue to be viable.

Not all western countries are anti-whaling although anti-whaling attitudes are prevalent. Generally Anglo-Saxon countries take an anti-whaling position, but Iceland, Norway and Denmark regard whales as food.�

Yeah, this may be so Japan, but Australia, America, and England don�t eat creatures with a reproductive cycle that takes 7-12 years to complete and has a population base that is under 100,000.

Edit: this being the case all who say that the sea cow/land cow argument is valid should look at the numbers. Sexual maturity for a cow is usually complete by 12 months even though gestation takes 9 months.

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http://images.ausimages.com/upload/2005-12-28/040129_exploding_whale_hlrg_8a.hlarge.jpg

Kaboom.
Whales are the reason why the sea is salty :p

haha. I remember that old picture Enigma. It was a news story some time ago. The whale 'burst' so to speak and out came a flood of very smelly guts and misc stuff to cover the whole street. Onlookers expression tells all.

Nevermind the fact the truck hauling it is too short and not wide enough. But more importantly, who in thier right mind hauls a dead whale in the open through a city block? Twas a funny case.

Though not as funny as this story back in late June when some stupid yanks who thought it would be a good promotional idea for thier frozen treats company decided to erect a ginormous ice block ("popsicle") outside on the first day of a hotter than average summer. Sure it was insulated, but they left the top exposed and open.

It began melting before the crane got it halfway up. Multible streets were covered in a flood of fluid which turned to sticky red sugary goo. lol.

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I'm not saying its a good thing, just pointing out that research has been done, not ZERO as A_W stated.

Zero in current times. I bet the last legit actual study was done 5 or more years ago.

what i dont understand is why do the greenies get so much media time so much attnetion in this country about trivial things like animals when there are much MUCH more important things to be focusing on fixing up this planet.

how about australias and americas blatent refusal to sign the kyoto protocol? we are the highest producing greenhouse emitters on the planet per head followed by america. do you not think that has an even greater effect on the planet then killing a few whales ? but thats not in the headlines every day like japan killing whales is, is it now ?

how about the millions of people who die each year from preventable diseases in 3rd world countries, that doesnt get much air time either does it ? besides a few world vision ads you see on tv, thats about it.

how about america going to war resulting in the deaths of about 50000 more iraqis this time around based on flawed intelligence. are 50000 lives less important then 1500 whales that are going to be killed and eaten this year ? certainly seems that way doesnt it.

John is just following the US as usual regarding the K.P . There is no actual benefit to not signing on. Can not Mr H think about us for a change and not just follow what our good friends do? Let's not forget the rediculous differences between the US and AU in many aspects of industry, needs, and other factors. What may be harmful for the US may not be harmful for us. They do have an aweful lot more to manage than us.

It's time we put Aus first for once. You can have friends without having 'yes men'.

The media is not as free as you think Cainer, this is why such "good" causes get little coverage. Yet someone elses war and s*** is apparently fixable and alot more interesting.

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australia didn't sign for a good reason which was totally unrelated to the US reasons for not ratifying it (they signed but didn't ratify note), and we are doing better in regards to the targets than the countries that did. also the kyoto protocol has no effect on developing countries which are also huge producers of hydrocarbons. china produces stupid amounts of hydrocarbons yet isn't even included.

yeah, china refuses to disclose the amounts that they omit, but it doesn't take a genius to calculate the # of people, the # of cars being sold there combined with the fact that coal is still their # 1 source of energy.

This world will be totally f***ed up beyond repair not long after the whales are extinct if not before.

A few whales being killed is great video footage for the media and great publicity to assist greenpeace to get more $$$. It touches the hearts of people who are unable to see the bigger picture.

It touches the hearts of people who are unable to see the bigger picture.

Well in the bigger picture dosnt the entropy win?

what i dont understand is why do the greenies get so much media time so much attnetion in this country about trivial things like animals when there are much MUCH more important things to be focusing on fixing up this planet.

Maybe it's because other people have different ideas on what is important to them and thats where they choose to focus their time and energy. I'm glad that you feel strongly about pollution and the greenhouse effect, but that doesn't give you the right to slag others for persuing other forms of environmental conservation.

Whales are eating all the planction. they are not innocent creatures ok?

just had to be done :(

http://www.unknownwriter.com/pictures/Whale.jpg

I'm all for saving the whales, but the Japs can have Kats fat ass. Hell knows we don't want it in Australia.

i want to have a whale burger

yum!

"how about australias and americas blatent refusal to sign the kyoto protocol? we are the highest producing greenhouse emitters on the planet per head followed by america. do you not think that has an even greater effect on the planet then killing a few whales ? but thats not in the headlines every day like japan killing whales is, is it now ?"
i would have a read of the kyoto protocol mate its a joke ,its only a small reduction in greenhouse gases and most of the countries that have signed have nuclear power .there is no simple socially aceptable way to solve the worlds energy problems but , to stop killing endangered animals is simple .STOP KILLING THEM U HUMAN LOCUSTS!

It had to be done...
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/bigpot6.jpg

Looks like the stakes are about to be raised....


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I hope the jap warship blows the s*** out of those treehugging wankers who dare to interfere with a multi-million dollar industry. The fact that they really believe they can do anything at all is sad. They should stop such futile s*** as protecting whales and move on to more pressing matters like protesting for more rights to police officers to protect and to serve. Wankers.

I could really go some whale steaks right about now.

Bad publicty is highly damaging. No wonder they want to send a war ship to scare off the protesters.

Japan does not recognise Australia's claim to the waters.

Of course not. As long as they get what they want who cares?

What rights/laws/claims of thiers can we not recognise to get something of value to us? Hmmm....