POLICE and security agencies will be given unprecedented "sneak and peek" powers to search people's homes and computers — without court approval — under legislation to go before Federal Parliament next week.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/bill-to-let-police-search-homes-bug-phones/2007/07/31/1185647903672.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

I suck at linking. Pretty serious stuff going on here though, Federal Police being allowed to operate without warrants and without court approval.

Get out Clint, it's a serious topic.

pfft
just sounds like the rest of australia will have the same bulls*** powers queensland coppers do :p

whats the colour of a 2c piece

i predict weekly "police just searched my house" threads from chub.


kinda sucks though. we are becoming more like america every day :(

it's good to be the king

I originally was going to write, "Don't do anything wrong and it's no big deal," then I thought of that poor Doc who just got kicked out of our country:/

It also deals with "controlled operations" — undercover operations in which federal agents may undertake criminal activity to further their investigations.

The bill provides for immunity not only to the undercover police or security officer involved, but also civilian informants who are part of the operation.

That's some pretty hardcore stuff right there, especially without any consent from a court.

I heard on the radio today that this is a power which state police already have and it is only bringing national police inline - who probably dont give a s*** about your personal supply of weed and pills like the state police might.

whats the colour of a 2c piece

DIRRTYY COPAAAAAA!!

edit: Just incase somone feels the need to "well if you heard it on the radio" it was during a JJJ news report, which had a sound byte of some politician or another commenting on the civil rights encroachment which this supposedly represents. Since state police already have this and no uproar was heard, there shouldnt be a reason blah blah blah. Either way...

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I'm not against the actual operations, it's more the fact that the police are now their own monitoring agency. I got no problem with these types of warrants, but they should be served by a court of law, by a seperate entity rather then the one actually seeking them.

You got to also think ahead though.

You give a little... then they take a lot.

I hope I never get into a situation where they can search my house.

Is it illegal to have Clints mum in your bed?

They are limiting it to crimes with 10 years jail time, which if they continue on the path of copyright infringement criminalisation will mean everyone on this forum could find themselves affected by these secret search laws.

They need to notify people after searches within a set period of time or go before a judge to justify why the notification should be further delayed.

I caught up with our old service manager recently.. I thought it was cool that ol' Garth was back in police uniform nowadays.


it was cool having another ex-police dude on staff, but I alway kinda got the feel he was never really off-duty eh... vnc ftw ;)

It also deals with "controlled operations" — undercover operations in which federal agents may undertake criminal activity to further their investigations.

good thing that. as an CA/Intel fanboy I'n not allowed to read or post on gaming forums or something.. gee I hope work never here's about my rantings here... dammit - forgot to use my dodgy Qgl nick instead :/

then I thought of that poor Doc who just got kicked out of our country:/

he ain't so innocent

i might just stay in holland

f*** living in a police state

he ain't so innocent

says the police cos they don't want to admit defeat

nah he was dodgy

I originally was going to write, "Don't do anything wrong and it's no big deal," then I thought of that poor Doc who just got kicked out of our country:/

yar, nef and infi beat me to it

theres something doing there

The NSW Labor government’s cabinet, once again intoning the chant of “terrorism”, has agreed to introduce compulsory DNA testing for anyone arrested for any offence. The leaked cabinet decision was reported in the June 22 Sydney Sun-Herald.

Once arrested on suspicion of jay-walking, offensive language or any other offence, police will be able to compulsorily take DNA samples by pulling out a strand of a person’s hair or taking a mouth swab. At the moment, these samples can only be taken in relation to very serious offences, such as murder or sexual assault.

http://www.greenleft.org.au/2007/719/37340

Awesome!

^

that's f***ed.

edit: greenleft.org.au lol.

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Bulls*** he was dodgey!
He was a badly engineered controversy, just like the abo intervention of six weeks back.
Lucky my names' not Mohammed.

I got DNA swab tested by the QLD police, just for being drunk and loud... like in 2003

I got DNA swab tested by the QLD police, just for being drunk and loud... like in 2003

Wow really? Did you have any choice? I think that's really farked.

What's the big deal about DNA swab ?

Are we tin foil hatting that they are going to clone you ?
Or is that they will record all your gene in some big database and give you a classification ala Gattica ?

Or are you planning on breaking the law and are now concerned that they might be able to id you using DNA ?

Or are you planning on breaking the law and are now concerned that they might be able to id you using DNA ?

That one.

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i'm just worried they will finally discover how superior my genetic structure is & abduct me for illuminati experimentation & induction. no really, that's the most probable upshot from this legislation. ;D

srsly, you think the coppers would spend all that time tapping phones and covert surveillance to nab someone who has done nothing wrong.

yesterday's article on the chatroom transcript where his cousin said nothing had been discovered about Haneef yet, and that he should leave Australia ASAP. I mean if that isn't sus what is. And then there are reports he tried to call UK police four times after the attempted bombings.... what did he know?

He can stay in India.

He can stay in India.

yer, ALL INDIANS CAN!!!!!!

yer, ALL INDIANS CAN!!!!!!

Screw you too buddy!

yer, ALL INDIANS CAN!!!!!!

but then we wouldnt have awsome indian food :(

we do need some indians... to drive cabs and operate quick-e-marts... but not too many.

sri lankans are exempted, tung.

also: http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/haneefs_chinese_whispers#17561

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Reporting

keep the bus above 50.

that link appears to support the dude's innocence though infi... n some of the the comments are indicative of why this neo-conservative 'terrorist' media campain is so successful! people from qld fearful that terrorists lurk hidden behind every shadow or slightly non-australian lookin' folk... wadda fukn joke!

it supports that no one knows the truth.

so what is the government supposed to do, er on the side of the individual or the public safety?

i am dead set against locking people up without charge but what is the hassle in deporting him if he's sus?

I should not keep the boats with immigrants above 50

Well I dunno I mean fine arrest the bastard straight up, but I mean a Magistrate, with s***loads more facts than any of us, with the whole world watching, figured it was ok to let a potential terrorism suspect off on a $10,000 bail. 10Grand. Cmon that is nothing.
It's the whole lets lock the towelhead up afterwards with no proof that s***s me, prior to an election where these guys, just like demon says are trying to seduce us again into the whole Tampa 'vote with your prejudice'. fukn joke!

This is what i dont get. This "top secret evidence" that bill calims to have......is he using this against haneef to justify canceling haneef's visa? or is this top secret evidence mean't to prove that he's actually guilty of being involved in terrorism? if the later then why is he coming out with this evidence after haneef was proven innocent? and since he is not guilty of any involvement in terrorism how does that still make him someone of bad character? to me it sounds like another excuse to gradually move towards a policed state. (omg freemasons bro!)

Lucky my names' not Mohammed.

Or Osama for that matter. Sadly though, that's prolly what it all came down to. Hard times ahead, especially for my fellow towelheads.



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Who is this Bill c*** anyway?

The Bill??????

s***, thats the best show on tele!

best scripts, best acting, best characters!!!

you are very old aren't you.

yes :(

i say kill all blacks/arabs

sandra, with an attitude like that you will stay in the b-grade doldrums.

what's with the speed references? I was talking about the net!!

no one saw that movie jim, your taste sux.

the net is the best movie of all time!
oh wait, no it's not

it WAS the best movie of all time, but then 'The Notebook' was released.

you like rachel mcadams over sandra bullock? i can understand that.

the notebook was good but there was no nudity, so its not the best. now i was just watching Van Wilder last night - that is possibly the best movie ever.

My thread is derailed... yet there's no spoot.

I don't approve.

i tried to find some spoot for you, but failed

http://images.google.com/images?q=paveways+girlfriend

See, proof she doesn't exist.

Or perhaps she moved on to a guy that could take out a bigger loan and buy a nicer car.

i had a bigger loan and a nicer car

i want some

although does it matter if i paid out my loan early?

spook vanessa says hi :)

For every negative thing that is imposed on our lives, you can directly attribute it to the negative actions of some pathetic prick(s) who has/had little or no regard for other people.

curse you zub and your phone hijinx :(

i thought i was in

Looks like the bill passed, funny how these new powers of investigation suddenly changed from going after ppl up for 10yrs+ sentences to now 3yrs+ in 1 week.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/police-get-secret-search-powers/2007/08/07/1186252707807.html

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Yay!

me and my tin foil hat says a big f*** you to this law
sure they can watch my every move, listen to every word i say
but the c***s will never ever guess what i'm thinking...

"Sex"