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Topic: ADSL2+ Line Speed
3dee
Posts: 1421
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hi,

As of tonight, my ADSL2+ service with TPG is up and running, and I've been fiddling around with my NetComm NB1 modem (s***ty 1 port thingo) to get speed good...

Anywayz, I'm around 2-2.5Ks from exchange (its on Wynnum Rd), but I'm only getting a little over 6.5 mbps download speed! I apparently should get at least 8-10mpbs...

DSL Status: Connected
DSL Speed: 1023/6532kbps

Its setup with ADSL2Plus modulation, PPPoE authentication with my new @L2TP.tpg.com.au login info. I downloaded a few test files and it never went above 650-700kb/s :(

These are my connection stats atm:

Us Rate (Kbps) 1023
Ds Rate (Kbps) 6532
US Margin 8
DS Margin 6
Trained Modulation ADSL2Plus
LOS Errors 0
DS Line Attenuation 34
US Line Attenuation 17
Peak Cell Rate 2412 cells per sec
CRC Rx Fast 0
CRC Tx Fast 0
CRC Rx Interleaved 25
CRC Tx Interleaved 0
Path Mode Interleaved

Am I missing something or is it just a s***ty phone cable setup? I plan on getting a decent 4 port router/switch coz my bro wants to hook up Xbox Live (for 360). Also I've actually run a phone cable about 15 m down to my room under the house where my modem is sitting on my desk and so I'm going to have the new modem at the phone cable terminal and send an ethernet cable to my room instead. This *may* help with the phone cable crap..

Anyone had similar dissappointing speeds with ADSL2+?
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parabol
Posts: 3499
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
15m cable!? holy crap .. you should temporarily move your pc and router closer to the phone line (with shorter cable (less than 2m)) to see if that makes any difference. It should.

Another thing to try is to disconnect all phones and filters from the line and only have your router plugged in. That'll show you if you've got noisy devices on your line lowering your sync rate. Don't bother testing download speeds if you're only sync'd at 6.5Mbps .. cause you'll never get more than 650-700kB/s.

(I used to live 2.5km from my exchange back when I was in St Lucia. Got about 7Mbps)

last edited by parabol at 19:11:38 26/Jul/07
3dee
Posts: 1422
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hmmm, yeh I'm suspicious that the cable would be a factor. Gonna get the new gear on the weekend sometime so hopefully it'll make the speed a little better...
ctd
Posts: 5403
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I get disappointing adsl2 speeds 3km's from the exchange :P But it sure beats 256k.
3dee
Posts: 1423
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Also the only two options (for less than $150) at Computer Alliance are the Billion 7300 4 port modem/router/switch or the Netgear DG834 which is essentially the same and around 90 bucks. Anyones I should steer clear from? I noticed that the Billion's description had Annex-M in bold. Not sure exactly what this though its got something to do with the cable's bandwidth or frequency selection or something don't it?
parabol
Posts: 3500
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Annex-M can give you up to about 2.5Mbps upstream, if your ISP offers it (most don't).

Stay away from the DG834 .. it's s***. I'm running one and I have most of the features disabled and blindly forwarding packets to my WRT54GL for proper and faster processing.
Spook
Posts: 19158
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
f*** that netgear its s***

get the billion, it rules

man, everything slows down adsl2, you want the shortest cables you can, and the best line filters

id check whinge pool to see what the best setup options are for tpg

im about 2.5 from my exchange and sync (used to) around 16000/1000 with my billion (i have a netgear dg834 as well, it was substantially lower)

my house has s***ty phone lines though, so until i get a tech out, im back to adsl1 speeds

i miss adsl2

last edited by Spook at 19:20:52 26/Jul/07
groydis
Posts: 1536
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i live probably less then 1k from my exchange and have a 50m lan cable going from my modem to my router and i get a steady 2.2mb/ps, also the lan cable was made cheaply by myself with my greasy fingers, move closer to your exchange and tell the 14yr old in your area to stop downloading porn. problem fixed, also get off tpg and there dodgy ways.

last edited by groydis at 19:34:09 26/Jul/07
3dee
Posts: 1424
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
50 m lan cable wont make much difference since its theoretical bandwidth is at least 5 times that of the MAX bandwidth of ADSL2.

So Billion 7300 it is then.

If I have a filter for the modem's phone cable does that make much difference? Coz atm the ph cable's going straight into the modem. Only the phones have filters...
parabol
Posts: 3501
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
less then 1k from my exchange and have a 50m lan cable going from my modem to my router

So? Your Cat5 cable doesn't affect your ADSL sync rate in any way.

Your modem has already demodulated the analog signal off the copper wire by that point and it's now a [more] robust digital signal over ethernet. You could double the cable length to roughly 100m and it'd still work fine.
Spook
Posts: 19159
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yer, only filter the phones

u can try unplugging your phone completely and power cycling your modem

see if that makes a different to sync speeds
3dee
Posts: 1425
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Wow!

ALL i did was change over to the new Billion 7300 modem router; I didn't change any cables so Ive still got the 15m phone cable, and its jumped from 6.5mpbs to 11.3mpbs sync speed :O

Must've been a pretty s*** modem lol...
Spook
Posts: 19178
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
they are

make sure you got hte latest bios for the billion as well
3dee
Posts: 1426
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeh gonna do that..

For short downloads (i.e 5-20seconds) it goes to about 500kb/s.

But for the Mass Effect E3 trailer (86.7mb) I got a max of 922.4Kb/s :D
Spook
Posts: 19179
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
dude, max speed for that sync will be over a meg a sec

go grab a super fast torrent, or dl something from apple/ms

should be up around 1.3, 1.4 meg per sec
3dee
Posts: 1427
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeh I'll try downloading the DX10 SDK from ms (coz i would prolly use it).

This modem is tiny! Its half the size of my single port s*** NB1 and its got 4 ports wtf.
3dee
Posts: 1428
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Sweet its happily download @ 1.1mb/s on a 11.3mpbs sync speed (technically it should max at 1.4125 mb/s but hey im happy)
drew
Posts: 1
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
3dee, turn off the modem plug it upstairs with a phone cable less than 2m and turn her on and check the sync speed then i think youll find a futher increase in speed.


to go off the problem you had with the mdoem does anyone know if the belkinj F5D8636-au4 would be slowing my connection?

im currently at
You are 1211 m from REDC as the crow flies.
Estimated cable length of 1877.05 m.
Estimated speed of 15000


when infact my sycn speed struggles to get 2.5megabit/s
i download around 200kb/s and my phone cable is 1.5m??
Mr Hardware
Posts: 5407
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Billion is awesome. Anyone who uses a netgear or dlink or worse modem is missing out.
7404VGPM Represent.
Lynx
Posts: 1402
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you are more than 2 years too late pal...
drew
Posts: 4
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
oh wow i didnt realise it was that old my bad
partyhat
Posts: 1234
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Billion is definitely good. You can get the 7300G for $85 from JMG with a new TPG account.

I recently hooked up to TPG in Yeronga and got the Dynalink 1025W as it comes highly reccomended. You can get cheap modems routers at JMG if you're signing up to TPG. I got the the 1025W for $65 + $12 shipping!

http://www.jmgtechnology.com.au/index.php/cPath/134_139

last edited by partyhat at 17:10:20 26/Aug/09

last edited by partyhat at 17:10:49 26/Aug/09
StopShootingMe
Posts: 3057
Location: Launceston, Tasmania
I only get ~450KB/s with my Dynalink 1025, I suspect the local lines are pretty old, though.
deadlyf
Posts: 431
Location: Queensland
Make sure you set it to ADLS2+ and don't leave it on Auto for connection type.

I bought a 7300N last week and upgraded to ADSL2+ and decided to check my speed after reading this thread and discovered I was only getting about 11k because it had it connected with ADSL2 modulation instead of ADSL2+.

Getting 24k now :D
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