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Topic: Azureus Woes (A story in pictures)
jmr
Posts: 4396
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://intuit.net.au/1.JPG
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http://intuit.net.au/3.JPG
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Spook
Posts: 16108
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
u get what you deserve for running such a horrible bt client

utorrent man, for gods sakes
eXemplar
Posts: 1707
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
How the f*** is azureus supposed to upnp map a port that is already forwarded ?
casa
Simes
Posts: 1670
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

You only have yourself to blame for not using utorrent
demon
Posts: 2145
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
agree with spook... azereus is a fukn phat java hog. you end up downloading something like 100mb of java updates every couple of months... utorrent is a 100kb app & does the biz.
Reverend Evil
Posts: 13628
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
utorrent for the win.

I had nothing but dramas when I tried using azureus.
Astroboy
Posts: 3374
Location: Germany
utorrent for the win.
Crizane Tribal
Posts: 1136
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Bitlord > all.
ravn0s
Posts: 4249
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i tried utorrent and for some reason i couldnt download any faster than 10k. i went back to me 200k with azureus.

i get the same thing but my torretns run fine

last edited by ravn0s at 14:58:44 09/May/06
HERMITech
Posts: 4082
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

utorrent
Seven
Posts: 754
Location: Central Coast, New South Wales
You get 1 point for providing your problem in pictures, but minus 10 for using Azureus in the first place. Publically announce your change to uTorrent or $10 this thread gets locked.
taggs
Posts: 808
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
utorrent bandwagon here too
Tanaka Khan
Posts: 3165
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
utorrent
orbitor
Posts: 7090
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
utorrent, and turn off uPnP mapping you dong.
scuzzy
Posts: 12198
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hey guys, remember when trend A was popular, and then trend B came along, and now trend A is no longer popular? god bless you trend B
shrapse
Posts: 3415
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
utorrent
uPnP
Protius
Posts: 3400
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
utorrent over all.
NaK0r
Posts: 2898
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i used utorrent before it was kool!

actually, latest (afaik) version is kinda s***ting me, its not remembering all my torrents after it gets closed - so i have to re-enter my whole download list :(
casa
Simes
Posts: 1671
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

^ sux2bu
Kharak
Posts: 204
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
BitComet =(
Captain America
Posts: 844
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
you yguys and your avatards are driving me NUTS

Zak
Posts: 1138
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Just swapped over to utorrent from burst! after reading this thread - I am a believer. It is really good.
step
Posts: 1152
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Gabbo! Gabbo! GABBO!
scuzzy
Posts: 12199
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you yguys and your avatards are driving me NUTS
so turn off these so called "avatards" in the forum options.
TicMan
Posts: 748
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Get Python - install BitTorrent proper.. nothing beats the real thing.
casa
Simes
Posts: 1672
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

wait they implemented avatars?

i probably have one too heh, just turn the s*** off with sigs... they're 100% queer (rounded up from 99.99%)
Frag
Posts: 1757
Location: Queensland
in the past when i have had troubles with port's and Azureus, I had to open for eg between ports 1880 and 1890 even if the port i want is for eg 1882. :)


Hope this helps
eXemplar
Posts: 1708
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Just enable upnp on your damn router and make sure it works, then any torrent program will work that uses upnp to map its own ports. No forwarding necessary.
hast
Posts: 751
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
why are you using upnp when you have a static port mapping?
WetWired
Posts: 2704
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
My name is Brent and I was a Azuerus user

(waits for applause)

I'd often set up some downloads overnight and wake up to find Azuerus had disappear completely and didn't finish the download, it'd use up a s*** load of resources and get poor speeds. It's been about 4 months since I've been clean of Azuerus and now I'm using Bitcomet and never been happier.
sLiNky
Posts: 688
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
uTorrent ftw
Skitza
Posts: 7224
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you all noob

ABC ftw
Seven
Posts: 755
Location: Central Coast, New South Wales
I, too am curious as to why you use uPnP while you've forwarded the necessary port.
thre3dee
Posts: 1188
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
just converted to uTorrent. OMG so much better. I'm actually dling at 50k/s within 5 secs of starting. Azureus takes ago to get going.
evetS
Posts: 72
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland
HAHAHA I KNOW UR IP 192.168.0.9 I AM HACKING U
thre3dee
Posts: 1189
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
thats wrong. ipconfig said so! (unless ur talking bout someone else's ip)
ctd
Posts: 4599
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I am also on the utorrent bandwagon, was using G3. Better speeds and nicer app. I dunno if it was my settings, and I dont really care.
whoop
Posts: 10005
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I've never had a problem with azureus and I use it for getting linux isos. Works fine with my uPnP router too.

have you got upnp enabled in windows?
Protius
Posts: 3401
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yes! Shrapse and my avatars ROCK!
Jim
Posts: 4365
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I was suprised to see the azureus hate, I reckon it's great, never have any issues with it at all - was just saying to blahnana the other day that it's one java app that I usually forget is even java, doesn't seem to exhibit all the usual dopey java-isms for me

he said 'utorrent' to me too :D
dafugg
Posts: 1293
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
CLI bit torrent client > utorrent
Seven
Posts: 756
Location: Central Coast, New South Wales
GUI FTW. Graphs man, graphs!
eXemplar
Posts: 1710
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
usual dopey java-isms for me

Die.
infi
Posts: 3560
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
utorrent is sex
jmr
Posts: 4398
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://www.imo.net/imc2005/immy/Smile.png
http://my.opera.com/chriss2000/homes/files/utorrent-logo-idea.png
IncrEdible_vEgetable
Posts: 637
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Ok on the strength of the generl consensus I d/l and installed utorrent.I used to use Azureus and found it to be ok, but since you are all sold on this utorrent thing, I thought I'd give it a go.
Seems to work ok but the torrents I have got so far are painfully slow. I haven't seen anything above about 20kps so far.

Can anyone suggest settings for optimal speed? I am on Optus cable. Current settings are:

Global max number of connections: 90
Max no. of connected peers per torrent: 50
Max number of upload slots: 2

Max no. of active torrents: 3
Max no. of active d/l: 2

I am getting that "unable to map UPnP port" error, but the little light down the bottom is green (as it should be apparently).

Are there other settings that will help?

I looked in the FAQ but all it really said was to try different settings.
Twisted
Posts: 9663
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

utorrent and you wouldn't such problems.
jmr
Posts: 4400
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
He's talking about utorrent problems you willy
infi
Posts: 3565
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i would recommend you speak to experts on the torrent trackers you are using instead asking us noobs.
Captain America
Posts: 846
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
just jumped from azureus to utorrent and damn! everyones right
TicMan
Posts: 750
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
btdownloadcurses.py is all you need.
infi
Posts: 3567
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
the moral of this story is: always follow the herd.
mongie
Posts: 3735
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
TURN OFF THE UPNP PLUGIN x11tybillion.
levels
Posts: 484
Location:

no one uses bittorrent? it rocks!
rubba-chikin
Posts: 4770
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Have been using Az for months, but I decided to give utorrent a go after seeing all the bandwagon riding on here.

*waves bye bye to Az*

I am now getting way better speeds in my torrents and its not slow and resource hungry, and so sooo small!


I'm sold.
demon
Posts: 2149
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I was suprised to see the azureus hate, I reckon it's great

i had az installed on a machine with a new xp os install & for ages it kept getting these 'you must update java' popups with a lil icon in the taskbar that wouldn't go away until i dled the java updates & installed them. you don't get these?


utorrent... ya know ya wanna! :D
AnaRoT
Posts: 8679
Location: Queensland

Does utorrent have a scheduling facility like Azureus' Speedscheduler plugin?
Opec
Posts: 4106
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
damn juarez monkeyz
Jim
Posts: 4367
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah I get them, but java update popups are totally unrelated to azureus. well in my case they are anyway, since azureus isn't the reason I installed a JVM

you can use the java control panel applet to stop those warnings/popups too I think
shad
Posts: 1613
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I had a problem with azureas and even with port forwarding it would still crap out. Eventually I disabled NAT on the dsl and made it work in bridged mode. All good now.

EDIT: before the problem azureus would work fine when the computer was connected directly into the dsl, but have problems with the ports when connted to a router that was connected to the dsl.

last edited by shad at 16:22:48 10/May/06
Seven
Posts: 757
Location: Central Coast, New South Wales
<- has max 1000 connection + max 300 connection per torrent. Works itself out pretty well.

Also global upload rate is 8kb while downloading, unlimited while only uploading. I'm on 512/128 so 9kb+ effectively floods my connection so my download rate decreases below max (50kb).

Please, for god's sake learn how to manage your modem/router. Open the ports you use and then disable upnp in your modem/router and disable it in your bittorrent program while you're at it. It's not needed once you learn how to port forward and it is an excess security risk you don't need.

edit: Anarot uTorrent has an awesome schedule facility!

http://www.users.on.net/~rbryce/scheduler.JPG

last edited by Seven at 17:15:59 10/May/06
Spook
Posts: 16113
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yer, i have the scheduler turned on all the time, so i just cue up my dls and then let utorrent grab em over nite during freebee time;

works a treat

so easy to setup
eXemplar
Posts: 1718
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I don't know what people have against UPnP, it's the best way to get any decent nat transversal happening. People mistakenly think UPnP is insecure, actually it's the s*** windows implementation that was insecure back in 2002'ish iirc.
Captain America
Posts: 855
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
iirc is that mirc ?
Spook
Posts: 16115
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
if i remember correctly, no, its not
Seven
Posts: 759
Location: Central Coast, New South Wales
Best way for me to get ports forwarded is...to use port forwarding. Open em up on the modem and the router, then tell uT to use them. Simple and no added features used on the modem or router that I don't need. I didn't deem it 'insecure' but as everyone knows every 'feature' you have that you don't need is a potential security risk, especially on your internet hardware. If I trust no one to try and exploit it, I might as well advertise my SSID, allow people to ping my router, then turn off my SPI firewall just for the fun of it all.

Pretty sure Windows never really focused on security issues in the last 4 years either, just the odd patch here and there.
ravn0s
Posts: 4257
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
just tried getting lost with utorrent. max download speed i was getting was 5k with port forwarding etc. think ill stick to azureus.
infi
Posts: 3569
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
how many seeds and leechers were there? i use default settings with utorrent and always get great speeds as long as the torrent is well seeded.
ravn0s
Posts: 4258
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
cant remeber
Spook
Posts: 16116
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ravnos stinx at torrents and computars
Seven
Posts: 762
Location: Central Coast, New South Wales
agreed. uTorrent's the only client I've used that I've gotten top speed with.
Jim
Posts: 4369
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
upnp _is_ insecure


what's top speed for you?
azureus seems to download stuff fine for me http://jason.qgl.org/images/fred.jpg
Jim
Posts: 4370
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
825k now
eXemplar
Posts: 1719
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
upnp _is_ insecure


By itself it isn'tu, but coupled with a compromised computer it can be. Anyone decent would use reverse connections anyway.
ravn0s
Posts: 4262
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
holy f*** jim how do u get speeds like that?
reso
I can't read
Posts: 3897
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
uTorrent goes this fast for me, yours can too!
Seven
Posts: 764
Location: Central Coast, New South Wales
http://www.users.on.net/~rbryce/racist-legos-owned.jpg

edit: Could you explain this 'reverse connections' jargon for me? What does it do and how would one implement it?

last edited by Seven at 22:17:11 11/May/06
Skitza
Posts: 7229
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
asif you would install sun java if you had a choice... lol
hast
Posts: 753
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
gcj for eva lol lol lol
jmr
Posts: 4407
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
How you pulling those kinda speeds reso/jim ?
Jim
Posts: 4371
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
bigpond cable
jmr
Posts: 4409
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Likewise, never come close
orbitor
Posts: 7093
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
all BT clients should deliver roughly the same speeds on the same torrent. If they aren't, you've got it set up incorrectly, and suck at computers.

My max connect speed is about 4500kbps (iiNet ADSL2+ but 4km from exchange), and that gives me consistent uTorrenting at 440Kb/s. Azureus gives exactly the same result, but uses more CPU, way more RAM, and more Java.
infi
Posts: 3575
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hi ranking scene ftps or just well seeded private torrent trackers. reso, that's a lot of gay porn u got blanked out there.
ravn0s
Posts: 4263
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
If they aren't, you've got it set up incorrectly, and suck at computers.


instead of saying we suck etc, it might be better to provide links or info that may help us get better speeds.
infi
Posts: 3581
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
just use defaults. its what everyone else is using for their kickass speeds. there are no magical settings for torrent clients.

you will get crap speeds if you use public trackers, how many times must it be said.
jmr
Posts: 4412
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
What do you mean by public trackers
infi
Posts: 3582
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ones which you do not need to register to and which do not require you to maintain a healthy sharing ratio. these sites attract a large proportion of leechers who do not weant to share back.
ravn0s
Posts: 4267
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
well guess ill stick to my public trackers. i dont want to seed 100% of a 350mb file. s***ty telstra cap bs
Skitza
Posts: 7233
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Likewise, never come close


I can get that on bigpond as well, if you set it up correctly it will fly with good a heap of seeders. If you give it too much upload you will not get any download, limit your upload to 3k max overall and it will fly. f*** the share ratio, people like us on bigpond can't afford to let it upload all the time. I'm looking at switching to Internode anyway.
jmr
Posts: 4416
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Can you give me an example of somewhere to get registered torrents ? I'm happy to share, I'm on a telstra 20, so I probably won't come too close to maxing out
rubba-chikin
Posts: 4784
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I found with Az it would hold a lot of maxxed out seeds/peers that were giving me 0 downstream, maybe its just a coincidence but utorrent seems to manage setting up and maintaining connections better and the downstream rate will get going a lot faster compared to Az IMO.
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