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trog
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Much to the disgruntlement of all the server administrators who were expecting a later release, EA have snuck out the Euro Forces mini-expansion/booster pack for Battlefield 2. You can buy it with the new EA downloader. You'll get three new maps, four new vehicles, seven new weapons and a new army. My commentary on expansion packs for multiplayer games is still something I think is valid, and something that players should consider carefully. |
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| #0 11:31am 15/03/06 |
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Reverend Evil
Posts: 13487
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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Haha
I love your comments about expansion pack. 8-) EDIT: Fixed last edited by Reverend Evil at 11:32:40 15/Mar/06 |
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| #1 11:32am 15/03/06 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 18237
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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They are my comments about expansion packs for multiplayer games in general.
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| #2 11:22am 15/03/06 |
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parabol
Posts: 2197
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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How many extra unskippable company-logo splashscreens do you get with this release?
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| #3 11:30am 15/03/06 |
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HERMITech
Posts: 3740
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Dunno, before I play any game these days I dump the additional movies :/
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| #4 11:35am 15/03/06 |
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Skyhawk
Posts: 1369
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Just remember, you can't use an EuroForces Weapons in Vanilla BF2, Only the unlocks given already, (P90 and L96A1)
= I won't be buying it ;) |
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| #5 12:53pm 15/03/06 |
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HERMITech
Posts: 3745
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Well for $13 I can't see any reason not to. Another variation of a game to play when the other servers are full for the price of just over a 6 pack? Why not?
P90, L96A1, G36E and the MG36 are the only weapons I don't have unlocked as yet anyways |
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| #6 01:58pm 15/03/06 |
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trog
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Posts: 18239
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Another variation of a game to play when the other servers are full for the price of just over a 6 pack? Why not?Well, I wouldn't do it because I'd feel like I was helping perpetuate the thought amongst game developers that they should keep adding token content updates and charging me for them, rather than do the clever thing and release an open, extensible game and let other users make free updates for them, thus adding untold amounts of replayability. |
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| #7 02:17pm 15/03/06 |
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AENIMA
Posts: 38
Location: Canada
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I drew the line in the sand with SF....if you can't even use the new weapons in vanilla bf2 then nuts to it...i have barely experienced any of the SF expansion yet anyway....and no doubt this release has the usual amount of bugs etc....plus you've got to use EA's Downloader (steam equiv?)...meh, should have been given out free for all who bought SF ATLEAST, if not to everyone for helping continue beta test the game.
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| #8 03:08pm 15/03/06 |
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HERMITech
Posts: 3746
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Well, I wouldn't do it because I'd feel like I was helping perpetuate the thought amongst game developers that they should keep adding token content updates and charging me for them, rather than do the clever thing and release an open, extensible game and let other users make free updates for them, thus adding untold amounts of replayability. Yah, I'll admit that you have a very valid point there, mebe I'll think about it ... if you can't even use the new weapons in vanilla bf2 then nuts to it That really will suck the ballsack if it's true |
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| #9 03:26pm 15/03/06 |
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ctd
Posts: 4496
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I agree 13 dollars isnt much. However, EA and now Dice has a reputation for s***ting around and even s***tier expansion packs when they should be fixing things wrong with the original product.
Also have you ever played bf1942: road to rome? Never again will I buy an expansion pack from the BF range. Infact I can only think of one decent expansion pack from EA and that was Generals: Zero Hour. |
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| #10 03:44pm 15/03/06 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 18240
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I'll add though - I think expansions that let you play with non-expansion people would be awesome, although (as pointed out in my article) it could probably cause balance issues.
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| #11 03:45pm 15/03/06 |
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HERMITech
Posts: 3747
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I do enjoy the fact that I can use my Spec Ops weapons that I have unlocked in Vanilla BF2 maps. It's a buzz actually to be able to pick up a weapon that I haven't as yet unlocked myself of a corpse.
The only thing that I don't like is when some retard has flashbangs an I don't believe that I have seen anyone using grapple or zip lines in BF2 vanilla though which would unbalance it a wee bit if you ask me. Imagine a SF Sniper accessing a point where a normal Vanilla Sniper wouldn't even be able to dream of getting to |
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| #12 03:55pm 15/03/06 |
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trog
AGN Admin
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Imagine a SF Sniper accessing a point where a normal Vanilla Sniper wouldn't even be able to dream of getting toI'd enjoy spending all my time smashing all the people that had bought the expansion weapons with my poverty vanilla ones |
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| #13 04:20pm 15/03/06 |
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AENIMA
Posts: 39
Location: Canada
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You are unable to access ziplines or grappling hooks in vanilla BF2, flashbangs were the only non weapon to come across....no tear gas either...although that would have been majorly unfair.
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| #14 04:51pm 15/03/06 |
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parabol
Posts: 2198
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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In related news, EA announces another expansion pack that includes a BFG9000 that can be used in vanilla BF2. Pre-orders are at $499.
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| #15 04:58pm 15/03/06 |
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natslovR
Posts: 4799
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
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In 2 hours i have download 3.7MB. Does anyone have a torrent?
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| #16 06:20pm 15/03/06 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 18244
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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natslovR, I laugh at you
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| #17 06:26pm 15/03/06 |
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natslovR
Posts: 4800
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
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i've started again and now at 34MB. 2.5 hours till i get it down. I came home from work at 4PM to start this f***er off then went back to work. i'm now back at the start :-(
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| #18 07:20pm 15/03/06 |
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infi
Posts: 3205
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i doubt i will get it. yawnsville.
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| #19 07:27pm 15/03/06 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 18252
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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haha sif pay for content patch!!! like what if they did that everytime a new dungeon/weapon was released in WoWI don't mean to laugh at you, but... haha? What do you think those monthly fees are? |
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| #20 10:48am 16/03/06 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 18255
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I don't think they're adding stuff that should have been there in the first place, personally. I thought BF2 out of the box had a good range of 'content'. As always though, it was just rife with bugs.
Do EA provide all the server hosting?No - but they don't make you pay each month to play online. Also, if one BF2 server goes down, you have plenty of others to choose from. Also, you don't have to battle international lag to play. |
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| #21 12:16pm 16/03/06 |
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trog
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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International lag isn't a problem and anyone who thinks they lose duels or whatever becuase of it is just lacking skills.Well, I've heard different from other people, so some people obviously do feel that way. And if one WoW server goes down, there are still plenty more to play on.Yeh, but you'd have to start another character, right? |
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| #22 12:43pm 16/03/06 |
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trog
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Most of the whining I heard about latency was from rogues, which apparently makes some difference (due to positioning you need to be in when doing certain attacks)?
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| #23 02:54pm 16/03/06 |
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HERMITech
Posts: 3749
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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An Australian "based" server would be nice but its not going to happen. Why the hell do you continue to support a compay that isn't willing to do just that? Sheesh. If all the aussie players simply ceased playing or renewing their accounts, you can pretty much be assured that Blizzard would change their tune in that regard |
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| #24 02:55pm 16/03/06 |
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AENIMA
Posts: 40
Location: Canada
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Obviously Blizzard can't afford to put in a server in the Australia/Oceanic region...what do you think they are, made of money or something?
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| #25 03:39pm 16/03/06 |
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parabol
Posts: 2199
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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what do you think they are, made of money or something? Yes actually. |
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| #26 03:44pm 16/03/06 |
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AENIMA
Posts: 41
Location: Canada
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oh really captain obvious....i guess i will have to use sarcasm tags from now on lolz
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| #27 04:00pm 16/03/06 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 18259
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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its en route, but the tracker is hosed
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| #28 04:33pm 16/03/06 |
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HERMITech
Posts: 3751
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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DERAILED
->Euro Forces Expansion Pack ->Wow monthly costs ->Latest Pure Pwnage episode Perpertrator = trog (and it was even his thread lol !!!) |
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| #29 06:36pm 16/03/06 |
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Tanaka Khan
Posts: 2727
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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5 million players x 15-20/month = GG. Minus my two accounts, they should be feeling that in their wallets any day now. |
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| #30 09:18pm 16/03/06 |
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HERMITech
Posts: 3754
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Become teh rolling stone that gathers the
Moss being what you call a WoW player |
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| #31 11:30pm 16/03/06 |
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natslovR
Posts: 4801
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
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I'm already back on vanilla bf2. The EF servers aren't full enough.. too many people leave and the map ends up one sided - or because one team is losing, people leave and there aren't the numbers to replace them.
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