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Topic: Australia vs. India - 2nd Test Sydney
fpot
Posts: 14928
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Go Hogg!
system
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Spook
Posts: 20546
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
team saviour!

also my fantasy team is sunk! (thanks jacques, yor useless)
Chakas
Posts: 2445
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
India were doing so well when they got Gilly, I thought Australia were headed for something around the 200 mark. Now with a bit of luck to Roy they're cruising up to 300 and Indian heads are dropping. It's a bit disappointing from my point of view, but hopefully India will do better when they bat (given how good the pitch looks).
Spook
Posts: 20547
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
wow, some shocking decisions out there today;

the indians at work are spewing!!!

ponting and then one of the worst decisions ive ever seen for symonds, both not out when obviosuly out!
paveway
Posts: 6909
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
also my fantasy team is sunk! (thanks jacques, yor useless)


really happy you're not selecting the aussie team
smart
Posts: 2458
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Persay
Posts: 4773
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
does anyone have any idea how often ponting wins the toss? it seems to happen more often than not, and the sample size should be pretty large too
Chakas
Posts: 2446
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Don't know about the toss, but his test record of win-draw-loss as captain is 30-5-3. Probably makes him the only long term Austalian captain to have a loss percentage in single figures.

As for today, there were probably 3 times Symonds could have been given out (caught behind, stumped and LBW - the caught behind being by far the clearest) but he got lucky and just about took the game away from India. Still, Tendulkar's average at the SCG is around 250, so it'll be interesting to see if he can help get them back in the game.
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 15259
Location: Ireland
hehe I went to bed at 2/70 or so and woke up to see us kicking ass, Roy and Hoggy getting the runs! Lee chipping in with 31.

Saw the Ponting 'not out' thought he was lucky, didn't realise Roy had a few lives too :P

Ohh well you don't win test cricket without luck

But yeah it'll be interesting to see how the Indian's go batting and how well we bowl, this is s*** I am going to get no sleep again tonight!
rubba-chikin
Posts: 5714
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hogg pwned it, be interesting to see him bowl now after a confidence booster like that.
paveway
Posts: 6912
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
go laxman

what a first innings
Chakas
Posts: 2447
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The crowd reaction every Dravid dot ball is priceless, the only thing better is when he finally took a single to go from 18 to 19 and raised the bat to the cheers.
Spook
Posts: 20558
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
dravid on fire today!!!!

gilly doing his thing making up for the umpiring by putting down catches
Mitch
Posts: 76
Location: Western Australia
The Symonds nick yesterday was sooooooo funny. lucky Sob
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 15271
Location: Ireland
anyone get the feeling the ICC or CA had a word to Chan 9, they are harping on (Bill Lawry, Tony Greig and Tubby Taylor) about how hard it is to be an umpire, the speed at which things happen etc etc it's easy to make mistakes blah blah blah

All the bad press must be getting to them, so Chan 9 are 'doing it for the game' (defending umpires)

also this test is going to end in a draw :/
]SUPERBOSS[
Posts: 1010
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Sachin got century, its might will be lose today.
Spook
Posts: 20575
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
anyone get the feeling the ICC or CA had a word to Chan 9, they are harping on (Bill Lawry, Tony Greig and Tubby Taylor) about how hard it is to be an umpire, the speed at which things happen etc etc it's easy to make mistakes blah blah blah

All the bad press must be getting to them, so Chan 9 are 'doing it for the game' (defending umpires)


mate, i dont doubt that for one second

id say the game is gonna be a draw, unless something spectactular happens

Mitch
Posts: 79
Location: Western Australia
Ponting should declare @ the end of the 4th day, that would make it interesting ^^

Subject to Australia making enough runs of course
Chakas
Posts: 2448
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It'll probably be hard to bat day 5 and I think Ponting will probably make an aggressive declaration. So I think there's still a good chance of a result here.

Edit: depending on the rain they've been talking about.
Spook
Posts: 20579
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
the aussies wont risk losing the game, they will bat until day 5 and then give themselves maybe two sessions to bowl out india

i see the turbinator has himself in trouble, big trouble

saw symonds going off at him yesterday, didnt realise what it was about though

INDIA spinner Harbhajan Singh faces being banned for the remainder of the Test series against Australia after being reported for racially abusing Andrew Symonds at the SCG.


http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,,23009014-23212,00.html
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 15282
Location: Ireland
yeah sky sports over here were talking about it before the start of play, I doubt they'll ban him, he'll get a fine and a suspended sentence....

I hope roy gets a chance to bat against him, love to see him to go town on harbhajan :p

We need to start scoring some serious runs, throw them in for 10 overs today and rip through their top order...

Edit: Jaques is out!!
Spook
Posts: 20581
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
s***, turbinator just got ponting again!!!

4 from 4!!!!

ponting is going to be spewing!!!
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 15283
Location: Ireland
rofl see his celebration!

He's got punter out 7 times now, 5 times with a first baller

punter's got nothing against him :p
spidz
Posts: 10117
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
whta a surprise, Aussies under pressure and they cry foul at the opposition's behaviour.

f***ing embarassing sooks.
Spook
Posts: 20591
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
should be a cracking last days play!

hope the rain stays away
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 15284
Location: Ireland
nar, I rekon it'll be s*** boring!

aussies aren't scoring very fast at the moment, so no sign of a declaration and the indian's aren't going to be in a hurry to score either

it'll be a borning draw... there is no way I am going to stay up longer then lunch (1:30am) watching this if something drastic doesn't happen soon!
Spook
Posts: 20593
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
aussies will have a go heards, i reckon just before the end of the first session they will declare with 300+

india wont have a go, and we'll go close to bowling them out!

clarke/symonds/hogg will have a decent crack at them
paveway
Posts: 6948
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah symmonds is our front line bowler
fade
Posts: 3120
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
he was talking about spinners on a turning 5th day sydney wicket.
paveway
Posts: 6950
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i wouldn't listen to spook

evar
Spook
Posts: 20595
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
sigh pave

yor cricket noob is all hanging out there for people to see matey
Chakas
Posts: 2449
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I'd like to see India go for these runs given they should struggle in Perth, but I doubt they will unless they find themselves in a really good position after tea.
paveway
Posts: 6951
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
thats why clark and johnson are bowling spook
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 15289
Location: Ireland
3/59 its getting interesting :D

Farken roy dropped a catch else it could be 4/59 :/
Alize`
Posts: 975
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Farken roy dropped a catch else it could be 4/59

Looked like a no ball though. Too many bad calls with these umpires, I reckon the match is rigged for ponting to match Steve Waugh's record as captain.
Spook
Posts: 20600
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah symmonds is our front line bowler


lol, nice one paveway

symonds with two wickets in that over

5 to go

we mite get there i reckon (with a bit more help from the umpies)

paveway
Posts: 6954
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
haha yeah well if bucknor wasn't umpiring it would be 1
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 15292
Location: Ireland
haha his next paycheck is from Cricket Australia coz he won't be umpiring :p
Chakas
Posts: 2450
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Come on Sourav! I'd really like to see him save the draw for India, if for no other reason than I don't want to see the Aussies win on the back of so many bad umpiring calls.
Spook
Posts: 20601
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
whats up with the umpiring?

you expect a bad decision every now and then, but theres been so many shockers in just this game

bucknor's career would be over you'd think
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 15293
Location: Ireland
yeah bucknor's gone, if he doesn't retire he'll be shown the door, SURELY!!!

I kinda agree chackas it makes the win less of a win, but in fairness we've had a couple of dodge calls too... granted we've had most of the luck :p

One thing's for sure, there will be plenty of talking points after this match
paveway
Posts: 6956
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
symmonds bucknor partnership to lead australia to victory
Alize`
Posts: 977
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Australians in India are going to get shot/bashed bollywood style. They'd be furious over there.
fade
Posts: 3123
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Come on Binger, Hat trick!
fade
Posts: 3124
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
or from pup. LETS GO!
Spook
Posts: 20604
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ZOMG CLARKE!!!!!!!!
Insom
Posts: 2025
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
won it by a bee's dick

after roy's bulls*** i was hoping we would draw to save face

oh well a win's a win
fade
Posts: 3125
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
spook, i think you should give Pup your first born child
paveway
Posts: 6958
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
thanks bucknor, we needed that win
fade
Posts: 3126
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
it's ok pave, because umpire benson was going for india.
Zak
Posts: 1649
Location: UK
WOW! Nfw I thought we won pull that one out of the bag.
Persay
Posts: 4786
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
seems like 30 years ago bucknor had a monkey lovechild named andrew symonds
paveway
Posts: 6959
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
smoking the sticky green s*** in the carribean for too long imo
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 15294
Location: Ireland
jesus christ what a match

I am sitting here at 7:45am, been up all night watching

good times.

Sleeeeeeeep now
Alize`
Posts: 978
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
haha persay.
umpire benson was going for india

That d******* asked Ponting if Clarke caught the ball from that edge. You're the umpire f***head, if you don't know you can't just give it out.
Chakas
Posts: 2451
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Wow, it's a shame about the bad decisions because otherwise that was one of the best Tests I've ever seen. Probably rates number 2 in my mind behind the Langer/Gilchrist 4th innings chase against Pakistan in Hobart 99/00. Tense and on a knife edge all the way through and great performances by players on both sides.
paveway
Posts: 6960
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
adelaide rates pretty highly last year, better than this crap
fade
Posts: 3127
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
That d******* asked Ponting if Clarke caught the ball from that edge. You're the umpire f***head, if you don't know you can't just give it out.


I believe he checked with Bucknor, not ponting.

And that is pretty standard conduct from officals in many sports where the player is the only one who can honestly tell, i know i have done in it futsal and rugby league.
eK
Posts: 10317
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
What a sensational game!
Persay
Posts: 4788
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
nah he never even turned his head to bucknor, and they showed the two screens side by side and he was clearly talking/nodding in time with clarke/ponting

sif ever believe ponting for anything. the other test playing nations need to do a few "appeal" sessions in the nets to perfect it, like i'm sure australia has done.
ring
Posts: 1
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory

Hey guys
New to the forum. Had to let the frustration out. What a wonderful game of cricket. It was quite annoying to see the aussies celebrating this win.
A game is only fair if it is played fairly. One or two wrong decisions can be forgiven but to make five or six errors if unforgivable.
It would be a shame if these two umpires are allowed back to umpire the games.
I just want to say to all the aussies out there. There is nothing to celebrate. If you put me out there and don't give me out when I was like Hussy and Symonds even I could go on to make those centuries. I think Indian played a wonderful game and fair game. Well done India.
Persay
Posts: 4793
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeah mate i'm sure you could have made a test century

who else are they gonna get to umpire? it's easy to sit on the couch in your jocks and say SACK THE CARRRRRRRRRNT but these are pretty respected/established umpires, and by their nature of umpires they are human, and make mistakes

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paveway
Posts: 6961
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
If you put me out there and don't give me out when I was like Hussy and Symonds even I could go on to make those centuries.


no you wouldn't, f***wit

go back to lurking
Insom
Posts: 2026
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
f***nor
Alize`
Posts: 979
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
If you put me out there and don't give me out when I was like Hussy and Symonds even I could go on to make those centuries.

His point is valid though: It wasn't Symonds making the century it was Symonds/bucknor combo.
spidz
Posts: 10120
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
fantastic game ruined by Australian's whinging about a bit of a sledge and some horrific umpiring.

First time I've genuinely been dissapointed that we won the game, embarassed by the celebrations.

Besides the obvious shocking decisions with Symonds and Dravid, what was with Ganguly?

When a bloke stands his ground and the umpire isn't sure - it has ALWAYS been standard practice to refer to the 3rd umpire. Yet somehow, out of nowhere, they start taking the fielding sides word for it?
neimad
Posts: 508
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I'm with Tony Greig on this one.

Winners are grinners and losers can f*** off with their mail order brides.

Sometimes you get the umpires decisions your way, sometimes you don't. We had some lucky breaks. The Indians played a great match and they could have won it or at least salvaged a draw but didn't. L2P.

See you in Perth.
Chakas
Posts: 2452
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yet somehow, out of nowhere, they start taking the fielding sides word for it?

Not from out of nowhere, it's something Ponting has been pushing for and was agreed on for this series.
Kumble agreed the captains would have the final say on contentious catches

Link.
The rest of the story however agrees with the sentiment in this thread.

As for the celebrations, it was a thrilling win and I can see how they would be excited in the moment. What we may not see for a while (if at all) is if the Austrlians quietly admit they shouldn't have won when they reflect on the test after the excitement dies down. To me that's the more interesting factor when passing character judgements.
spidz
Posts: 10122
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
As the article states, Punter not a good judge as he claimed a catch earlier that clearly bounced.

Further, they don't honour the deal from their side.
Chakas
Posts: 2453
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
As the article states, Punter not a good judge as he claimed a catch earlier that clearly bounced.

It says he refused a catch that bounced in the first innings and then talks about Gilchrist, not him.
Further, they don't honour the deal from their side.

I don't think there were any instances where they didn't honour that agreement. Obviously they stood their ground when they edged the ball (which is a different issue) but I can't remember any of them contending a catch was clean. So while they shouldn't have won the test, they didn't break that particular agreement.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 22306
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
once again, more third umpiring and taking advantage of the technology would save all this
GaZ
Posts: 1615
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah some bad calls.. but what about punter in the first innings? go stick that in your ring, f***in ring!
spidz
Posts: 10124
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
sorry wrong article

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/baggygreen/content/story/329322.html

Clarke went low to take the catch and it was not clear if he had got his fingers under the ball, but that should have proved to be irrelevant as he subsequently grounded the ball, tumbling to his left in the process of completing the catch. Mark Benson, called upon to rule on this one, chose not to ask his partner at square-leg, or go to the third umpire, and instead was satisfied by a word from Ricky Ponting, also stationed at slip. Only a few minutes before this Ponting had claimed a bat-pad catch after clearly grounding the ball in the process. Why Benson chose to take Ponting's word for it, after all that had happened, is something only he knows the answer to.
spidz
Posts: 10125
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah some bad calls.. but what about punter in the first innings? go stick that in your ring, f***in ring!
you mean when he was clearly out for 17 and went on to make 55?
herr uberpanzer
Posts: 28
Location: Gladstone, Queensland
Winners are grinners and losers can f*** off with their mail order brides.


+1

Anyone suggesting that the Umpires favour Australia is a nincompoop. What reason would they have to do that? They aren't Australian, and if they are incompetent they will get fired or relegated anyway.

Play the match controlling those things under your control, such as

- bowl Australia out when you have them for 6/135ish in the 1st innings.
- field like an international team, not a bunch of inbred circus hippos.
- actually run between the wickets to create pressure on the fielding side.
- concentrate on the task at hand rather than trying to use "I bough two right handed gloves oops I need my left one" hax. Gone for 0 anyway lol.

Cop the bad decisions and move on. India had every opportunity to at least draw the match when they were 70 in front with 2 days left. They lost by over 100.

Cricket is a game with human umpires. If you don't like it, go play Tetris or something.


Spook
Posts: 20607
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
once again, more third umpiring and taking advantage of the technology would save all this


i think this is coming
spidz
Posts: 10127
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
first trial was unsuccessful and a few other articles on the subject.

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/289918.html

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/countycricket2007/content/story/307426.html

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/293668.html

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/314671.html
fpot
Posts: 14937
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Can't wait to give the Indian boys s*** about this.
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 15299
Location: Ireland
Harbhajan has been banned for 3 matches - link

And the Indians might be going home

The decision will have massive ramifications for relations between the two cricketing teams with the Indians already considering pulling out of the tour.


and this

"The various words which are supposed to be racist unfortunately most of us do not subscribe to the fact that there is any racist thinking in any of the Indian team members," said Indian team spokesman M.V. Sridhar after the hearing but before the decision was announced.

He refused to rule out the possibility of the Indian team heading back home early this morning.

"That is something with which we are now going to take a call with the BCCI (Indian cricket board)," he said.

"... I am sure they will take a very judicious decision on that."

The Australians are understood to have argued that Harbhajan was a repeat offender, having also racially abused Symonds in Mumbai last October.

Sridhar denied that Harbhajan had called Symonds a monkey.


Hahah this is going to turn bad, VERY bad.
HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 15300
Location: Ireland
ohh it gets better - they are lodging a counter claim against hoggy - link

The Indians alleged that Brad Hogg referred to an Indian player as a "bastard", which is considered to be a highly offensive term in India. The charge appears to be an attempt to pick apart Australia's argument that "monkey" is a racially charged word, a stance the Indians have challenged.

"I don't think that word ['monkey'] was used on the ground, but it is not a derogatory word in India," said Indian team manager Chetan Chauhan last week in outlining India's case in defence of Harbhajan.

The hearing into Hogg's conduct will be held separately from Harbhajan's case, and possibly as early as today. Indian captain Anil Kumble yesterday criticised the behaviour of the Australian players, although the counter-charge against Hogg is believed to have taken the Australian camp by surprise.


Spook
Posts: 20609
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yer, doesnt look good for the aussies

if we can give it, we should be able to take it
spidz
Posts: 10128
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I think Randall from Clerks would side with the Indians
fade
Posts: 3128
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
There's a different between banter and 'monkey'. Considering the furore after the fans called him a monkey in India, its unthinkable an Indian player would now do it. Imagine if Punter called an Tendulkar a currymuncher, or called Ntini a n*****. In essence it's the same thing.
Chakas
Posts: 2454
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Well, I suspect we're going to hear "(insert Indian player's name here)'s a bastard!" coming out of the crowd a bit this summer. All this crap is a real shame because we could/should be seeing some of the best contests for a while.
fpot
Posts: 14942
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
I vote monkey noises when Singh runs in to chuck bowl.
fade
Posts: 3129
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i've never got it, but why do black people call someone a monkey?
eK
Posts: 10318
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
fantastic game ruined by Australian's whinging about a bit of a sledge and some horrific umpiring.
Did you even follow the racial abuse Symonds copped from the Indian crowd on their tour their in the last couple of months?
Chakas
Posts: 2456
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Lots of news in the aftermath obviously including:

India seek to replace Bucknor for Perth.

Not walking is not cheating.

The first article seems obvious, but the second one is the one I find interesting. There has been a lot of negative talk directed at the Aussie players for not walking that I don't think they deserve. The umpiring was appalling and there's no way they should have won, but the article talks about how controversial the issue of walking has been over a long period of time and gives perspective to the situation.

The Aussies didn't deserve to win and I'm sure most wanted to see a draw for the sake of justice, but that's no reason to attack the Australia players. If anyone should be the target of our ire it should be the umpires, and Australians should be joining India in their calls to have Bucknor stood down from the next test.
ara
Posts: 1798
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
Kumble agreed the captains would have the final say on contentious catches


this is only regarding if a ball carries to the catcher, not in ganguly's case where the question was regarding if he knicked the ball or not.
Chakas
Posts: 2458
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
this is only regarding if a ball carries to the catcher, not in ganguly's case where the question was regarding if he knicked the ball or not.

Ganguly's wicket was definitely about the catch. Benson asked Clarke/Ponting if he caught it cleanly, they said yes, and Benson gave him out.
fpot
Posts: 14945
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
i've never got it, but why do black people call someone a monkey?
I guess they are insinuating that black people are less evolved or something.
blahnana
Posts: 526
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I'm with you Chakas. Decisions on being out or not are up to the umpire; sometimes the decisions are against the batsmen, and there's f***-all you can do about them. Why would you walk when the umpire _doesn't_ give you out?

In social games, I would always walk because there's noone with the specific job of decision maker. When there is, it's up to them.

If the umpires don't have everything they need to make decisions, fix them. Or make it a game based on the honour system. One or the other.
`ViPER`
Posts: 287
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
What about the fact that the indians where obvisouly just playing for a draw? Is that in the spirit of the game ?

They had 72 overs to get 333, which in reality is not out of the question. Thats just over 4.6 an over and if they went for it they could have gotten. But they just played for a draw, in the last probably 20-30 overs didnt even seem like they cared to even run.

I read in one of the articles posted that they were are even thinking of going home, now that would be pretty gutless. Stay and play the last 2 matches and put up a fight, wouldnt that be the best revenge?
Chakas
Posts: 2459
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
They had 72 overs to get 333, which in reality is not out of the question.

On a day 5 SCG pitch it is very much out of the question. That's actually the one thing I'm critical of the Aussies (mainly Ponting) for. That they left the declaration until there was no chance India could win, and unfortunately it paid off. I would rather have seen them set 280-300 with more overs (i.e. tried to score a bit faster on the afternoon of day 4 and give India 85-90 overs). It could have made for an even better finish if all results were in play and in theory should have made it easier to take wickets if India were attacking. However as it turned out the coservative/less aggressive approach payed off this time (thanks in no small part to a dud call against Dravid and what I'll describe as an 'interesting' wicket of Ganguly).

Edit: Having said that, full credit to the Aussie bowlers who did a great job of building pressure and making the batsmen play often when they were looking to leave and pad the ball away as much as possible.

last edited by Chakas at 13:59:02 07/Jan/08
DirtyApe
Posts: 331
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Oh well it just proves to me what we have over the rest of the world. We will win at all costs and that is what makes us so much better. India played okay for a bit, not well enough to win though. Pointing is an awesome captain because he hates losing, gotta love him for that. Yes the umpiring was crap but that is cricket.
`ViPER`
Posts: 288
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeah I though ponting left the declaration a bit too long, but with hindsight he declared at the perfect time.

An earlier declaration at some where beween 250-300 with 90 overs would have seen a nice run chase by the indians, but I reckon theyh still woudlnt have gone for it.
Chakas
Posts: 2460
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
An earlier declaration at some where beween 250-300 with 90 overs would have seen a nice run chase by the indians, but I reckon theyh still woudlnt have gone for it.

That would have been interesting to see. With Perth in a week I don't think India could have won the series without winning in Sydney, so I'd like to think they'd have gone for it.
GaZ
Posts: 1619
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
spidz:- wasnt it in the first innings where punter was caught from a deflection from his pad?
fade
Posts: 3130
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
nah, second.

first he was given out LBW after a big edge it onto his pads
rubba-chikin
Posts: 5721
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
There too many pansy bulls*** rulings flying around these days, oh boo hoo I'm all butthurt cause someone called me a name.

Should simply be a case of what happens on the field stays on the field. If anything it proves you are getting to them because they can't get you out/get past you/whatever and should boost your confidence.


Even in my lowly social type hockey games you get called this and that if someone didn't like the way you just ran them over etc. It's heat of the moment stuff and as soon as the game is done I don't take it personally and just get over it. It's not a reason to go and try to fight them in the carpark afterwards.


IMO its about on par with the fatties suing McDonalds because they are too fat or burnt themselves on the coffee because they are gumby f***s.

last edited by rubba-chikin at 15:52:25 07/Jan/08
Nakor
Posts: 2986
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
india are just being f***ing pansys - look at how the f***wits played/celebrated in the 20/20s and ODI's in india and tell me THAT was in the spirit of the game, and now they are suggesting the aussies dont because they played to the umpires decisions?

also, spirit of the game? how long did the last 3 indian batsmen take to get out to the middle of the pitch? just to wind down the clock more

last edited by Nakor at 16:59:14 07/Jan/08
Spook
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That's actually the one thing I'm critical of the Aussies (mainly Ponting) for


the aussies would NEVER have risked losing the game

why would they?
Chakas
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To give themselves a better chance of winning the game. As it was without the 'luck' continuing to go their way with Dravid (maybe Ganguly) and the amazing finish, it would have ended a draw and it would have been because Ponting was too conservative.
neimad
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Randall would give Roy a Porch Monkey 4 Life shirt.
fpot
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India have suspended the tour?!?@?
sleepy
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havent checked the credibility of that last statement.
heard it was a possibility.

me smells a team who dont want to be the team to be on the losing team when the aussies get the record. (if they get it)

much like vaas didnt want his 100th test to be a losing one.

who are the next opponents. w/indies or something away isnt it.?
sleepy
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source please.

cricinfo is a bit slow by the looks.

still saying they wont boycott.
Chakas
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It's been on both the radio and TV news that they're suspending the tour. All cricinfo said last time I check was they're staying in Sydney while appealing the Harbhajan suspension.

Fox sports says:
India suspends tour of Australia

While Cricinfo now says:
India deny rumors of tour being called off

It seems to me India were just staying in Sydney longer than planned to sort out the appeal and the media have blown it out of proportion?
Persay
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also, spirit of the game? how long did the last 3 indian batsmen take to get out to the middle of the pitch? just to wind down the clock more
I think that Australia would have been winding everything down a lot before that if they were in the same position, fake injuries, etc. When kumble and harbajan were out there they didn't as much as have midwicket discussions every ball.
trog
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whining about being called a "monkey" is just going to result in the crowd in India doing it even more now. Haven't these people ever been on the internet? As soon as people find out they can do something that annoys you, they're just going to keep doing it. Now instead of Symonds getting called a monkey by a couple of asshat players he's going to get called it by forty billion Indians, loudly and repeatedly with the intent to piss him off.

Don't get me wrong, abusing people on the sport pitch I think is completely low and unsportsmanlike
JigZie
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DirtyApe
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Oh well it just proves to me what we have over the rest of the world. We will win at all costs and that is what makes us so much better. India played okay for a bit, not well enough to win though. Pointing is an awesome captain because he hates losing, gotta love him for that. Yes the umpiring was crap but that is cricket.
#94 02:18pm 07/01/08


Didn't you die ?:S
Resonate
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whining about being called a "monkey" is just going to result in the crowd in India doing it even more now.


Agreed, i bet the indian fans can't wait until the next time the aussies go there for a match. Did anyone happen to catch an 'aussie goes bolly' on fox8 last night? Really goes to show how much they love their cricket (standing on the stadium roof and pylons and stuff just to catch a glimpse).
DirtyApe
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Didn't you die ?:S

I know the world hates me and everybody wishes I was dead but I aint going anywhere just yet.
Khel
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Didn't you die ?:S


That was a different ape
JigZie
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oh whoops.
typo
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oh whoops.


You're such a nub that if RockApe was still alive he'd be collecting photo's of you.
Scooter
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ow instead of Symonds getting called a monkey by a couple of asshat players he's going to get called it by forty billion Indians


Didn't pay attention to the last tour there? They already were. Big signes and everything. I think thats why he's so upset about it now, something was said about it during the tour. The Indian players would of been aware of it happening/Australian's protest yet he still said it.

However, I too am in the 'Harden the f*** up Symonds' camp. You have to expect this s*** from people. Lets face it, they got a bum stick in the test too, so they were probably frustrated.
No excuse for racism, but a 3 match ban is way to extreme.
Persay
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i don't even see it as racism. he seriously looks like a monkey with his big fat lips. it's like calling glenn mcgrath a bean pole or saying great hair yeah yeah to ponting.
trog
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WTF, I just heard Buckner got sacked for the 3rd test?!?! What the s***?

edit: ABC news

last edited by trog at 19:34:11 08/Jan/08
qmass
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WTF, I just heard Buckner got sacked for the 3rd test?!?! What the s***?
How on earth can that be the most shocking piece of information from the test :P
trog
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I didn't realise he did that bad a job that that was on the cards; I only saw one bad decision from him (dravid? can't remember who, getting caught behind when he didn't hit it)
Scooter
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He made an assload.

Not giving Symonds out was justas bad as the Dravid call.
spidz
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it was worse.

a coupple of bad ones here and there are fine. But he had 3 absolute shockers in addition to 3 or more incorrect ones (but not so obvious without benefit of replays)
Chakas
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He was considered by some the best umpire in the world a few years ago, but over the last couple of years I've seen him make some terrible calls. He seems to be well past his prime now and this test has brought it to everyone's attention.
rubba-chikin
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I didn't realise "monkey" was a racist term, I thought they called him monkey cause of his zinc cream lips and the way his ears stick out when he tucks his dreads behind em.
Scooter
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I call my brothers Monkeys all the time.
I knew stuff like 'Porch Monkey' was racist, but not Monkey by itself. Until after the 1st tour.
rubba-chikin
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I was aware of porch monkey, but I thought monkey stood for "always hanging around" in that specific term.
Alize`
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Yeah and Ian Healy called Arajuna Ranatunga a porky pig with no cry of racism. Isn't this exactly the same thing. you're a (racist animal goes here)
spidz
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Chakas,

Most 61 year olds with Glasses thicker than a CRT are passed their prime.

Especially if their profession demands excellent eye-sight, depth perception and fast decision making!
Chakas
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But I haven't heard much in the way of criticism previously. My point is now it's been brought to the public's attention more.
spidz
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he's been well past it for a while, has consistently made errors - just none that hae been a combination of blatant and critical to the outcome of a match as the decisions in this game.

A few commentators on ABC have been calling for his head since prior to the World Cup.
Creepy
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When the BCCI speaks, the rest of the world listens.


This, is just beginning.
Spook
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as we have a lot of indians (and kiwis and south africans) at our work, the cricket debate has been raging fiercly about whether the aussies are indeed f***wits

one of our programmer bas just dropped this on us all:

DISAPPOINTMENT??

http://youtube.com/watch?v=X3Ms37yt3lg&feature=related%20target=

CHEATING??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TmryWZ5VG8

THE VOICE OF REASON
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23025954-601,00.html
HeardY
Gaelic newb
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ahhh spook you've done well my son :)

classic
neimad
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India is always trying to put the black man down.
First Roy. Now Bucknor.
Just because the BCCI generates 70% of the cricketing world's income is no reason to let them take over the game.
spidz
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indians are black...?
TT_Avenger
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All this controversy makes this interesting.

Otherwise cricket as a sport is boring as dog s***.
`ViPER`
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Cant wait for the perth test, wish it was in brissy, gonna be some crazy fired up indians and no doubt some drunk aussie bogans, gonna be sweeeeet !
Spook
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Otherwise cricket as a sport is boring as dog s***.


you missed teh cricket in the last test?
HeardY
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Cant wait for the perth test, wish it was in brissy, gonna be some crazy fired up indians and no doubt some drunk aussie bogans, gonna be sweeeeet !


No I can't wait for the Lee & Johnston bouncer attack :p

Can you imagine how fired up they are going to be, it'll be a cracker, money on punter to fire up and score a ton, aussies will win inside 4 days and totally destroy the Indians.

You read it here first :p
Agamemnon
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Best responce to the "Monkey" calls yet!
Alize`
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No I can't wait for the Lee & Johnston bouncer attack

Haha no doubt, someone's going to lose a head. Is the test on today?
blahnana
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Harbhajan has brown skin too, so surely he can't have been making a racist remark on skin colour?


Way to display your complete lack of understanding of racism.


Bah
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Watch out, i hear andrew symonds likes to eat blahnanas.
DirtyApe
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I wonder if he phoned symonds to apologise and to offer him great discounts on his long distance calls
GaZ
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hahahah
Spook
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hhaha, dirtyape
HeardY
Gaelic newb
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Hahah a 10 year review of the ICC's teams who have been reprimanded show's India are the worst by far - link

lolz

That and the youtube vids show they've got a long way to go, those in glass houses...

also why isn't Tung in this thread?
fpot
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youtube videos?
HeardY
Gaelic newb
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the ones spook posted a couple of days ago....
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