As the thread title suggests, ABC in the US are going to beta test streaming shows in a nice 1280x720 res.

Wish they'd do something like that here. Though it's probably not cost effective in Australia. The amount of bandwidth it chews would be scary.

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Stream for free in high def? That's a good idea. How about stream for free in regular def and charge a premium for HD content.

Are you correcting him Trog, cause if you're not, I hope you go to hell for suggesting something like that.

no, dont charge for HD content, there should be more of it and it should be free!

Except HD porn .. too much res shows too much details

Remember back in the day and you'd be tuggin' it and they'd cut to a close up of the guy's face and you'd wanna kill yourself? Never again - multi-angles!

I hope they keep HD s*** in the air. That'd chew through HUGE amount of bandwidth.

Multi angles ruined so many "about to" happy moments.

two words; andrew blake

Are you correcting him Trog, cause if you're not, I hope you go to hell for suggesting something like that.

Streaming HD for free to the masses over the Internet is not sustainable. HD content at that resolution is like 5 megabytes a second, if you're lucky. Call it 30 megabit to be fair. 10 people watching it is 300 megabit. You could have 30 clients connected to a PC with a 1gbit NIC before you flood the connection of that NIC.

They could of course compress the s*** out of it; I don't know at what bitrate HD video becomes s*** but at those resolutions I'd say it's probably surprisingly high.

It just doesn't scale. They're taking a new idea (live streaming of TV content over the INTARWEB for free because hey if we don't they'll just BitTorrent it anyway AMIRITE?) and trying to jump too far ahead of the available technology.

I just finished reading the article and it actually points out the bandwidth issue, but focuses on the client side. Obviously most users aren't even going to be able to stream in HD anyway (at the bitrates I'm suggesting, at least).

Seriously, if people on the tubes are happy watching YouTube videos and downloading xvids that aren't even DVD quality, I think they'll be OK with streaming standard def content. I sure as hell would be - I'd love to be able to watch US shows at the same time as their air in the US (or even better, on demand). I'd happily cop ads in the stream. Obviously there's no way in hell that'll happen until media companies realise they have to do things on the internet for everyone in the world at the same time or they're pointless.

I'd happily cop ads in the stream

I'm no expert on the topic but I'm assuming, amongst many other problems, it would be extremely hard to find advertising that is relevant to the entire world. I guess the type of show it is would help narrow down your advertising to a certain demographic...but then there is other problems like differences between the same product in different countries (i.e products renamed for different countries - Lucky Number Sleven/The Wrong Man...)

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same

I'm no expert on the topic but I'm assuming, amongst many other problems, it would be extremely hard to find advertising that is relevant to the entire world.

based on the client IP address they could vary the ads.

I'm no expert on the topic but I'm assuming, amongst many other problems, it would be extremely hard to find advertising that is relevant to the entire world. I guess the type of show it is would help narrow down your advertising to a certain demographic...

I guess you have:

1) type/content of show
2) country of viewer

....not a lot else, but that's not too bad as a starting point!

but then there is other problems like differences between the same product in different countries (i.e products renamed for different countries - Lucky Number Sleven/The Wrong Man...)

Surely we can all agree this is just a retarded marketing practice that won't survive the Internet Age

I'm gonna have to agree with Trog.
Of course, by streaming in HD, when they see how it fails (or isn't used because peoples connections can't handle it), they'll be able to claim there isn't the demand for it and pull the plug.

576p is getting towards overkill for streaming, 720p is well and truly into the realms of overkill.

They could of course compress the s*** out of it; I don't know at what bitrate HD video becomes s*** but at those resolutions I'd say it's probably surprisingly high.

DVD MPEG-2 is typically 600KB/s including an AC3 audio stream. That's at what, 720x480 animorphic?

all advertising is based on the type of show. you don't need to know anything more about the viewer than the fact they are watching the show.

i think streaming TV is the next big thing because this will ensure channel bit torrent watchers can get the shows even before BT trackers release them (cos it takes a couple of hours to master the divx file).

the ads though will be global branding as compared to special discount at your local tire shop this week. but brands like electronics/computing, cosmetics, soft drinks, banking would love to have a global audience for their products.

Surely we can all agree this is just a retarded marketing practice that won't survive the Internet Age

I guess there is some situations where it is warranted though...not just name changes but actual differences in products due to environmental/social/legal differences in different countries. Eg. cars being released with different specs in different countries...if a car comes with 200kW in one country but only 180 in another country...cannot advertise the number of kW without having different ads for different countries...but then the marketers may decide that 180kW isn't a good marketing point so they need to make a completely different ad focussing on a different aspect of the product.

I realise this is just a small thing and that the vast majority of international products could be advertised around the globe - especially with ads targetted for countries depending on client IP - but there is just a whole lot of small issues that would add up to make it a rather complex task...bandwidth, censorship issues, advertising issues, piracy issues (removing adds and redistributing). There is also the fact that a huge amount of current TV advertising focuses on extremely localised products - local attractions, local events, products only sold locally....even if you can narrow down to a country it is not much good advertising Paniyiri to people in Perth....Melbourne maybe :) So this cuts out a large number of potential advertisers.

I think it's a great idea and would love to see it become mainstream but I realise why it's not dead simple and why it wasn't implemented years ago. But I guess as technology improves and global markets become more of the norm due to the Internet itself...I guess the problems become easier to manage.

http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=57701337

The Internet2 consortium announced that a research team based at the University of Tokyo set a new IPv4 transmission speed record in November. The team successfully sent a multiple stream data transmission with a transfer rate of 7.21 gigabits per second over a distance of 20,645 kilometers

i wonder what perverted website they were grabbing^^