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Zak
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Location: UK
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Link - http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/australia/content/current/story/285940.html
Found unconscious in his hotel room today with vomit near him. Taken to hospital but died later. I don't think it would be too unreasonable to suggest suicide may be the cause here. 2 losses putting Pakistan out, people burning effigies of him back in Pakistan - it's a pretty high pressure situation. Either way, that sucks. |
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| #0 05:28am 19/03/07 |
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fpot
Posts: 14077
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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Holy s***.
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| #1 05:29am 19/03/07 |
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HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 14425
Location: Ireland
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I doubt it was suicide.... he was quoted as saying 'it's just a game' but who knows... I rekon someone poisoned him
But yeah it's bad news. |
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| #2 05:43am 19/03/07 |
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Zak
Posts: 1404
Location: UK
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Early reports suggesting it may have been a massive heart attack.
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| #3 05:45am 19/03/07 |
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Merlyn
Posts: 660
Location: Other International
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Do the pakistani's practice any sort of VooDoo??
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| #4 07:24am 19/03/07 |
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Spook
Posts: 18101
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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no doubt he was under massive pressure after the pakis did so badly
sad for cricket |
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| #5 08:21am 19/03/07 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 20180
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I also heard on JJJ that back home in Pakistan, the mob is calling for the team's bank accounts to be frozen pending an investigation. Obviously match fixing allegations are flying hard and fast back there.
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| #6 09:23am 19/03/07 |
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HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 14426
Location: Ireland
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ahhh yeah I didn't even think of match fixing!!!
I am sure there will be a massive investigation |
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| #7 09:30am 19/03/07 |
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Raven
Posts: 1830
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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Danm, I read this as 'WCG', figured I didn't know who the hell you were talking about because I don't play games much anymore. Bu then I thought "hang on, World Cyber Games finals isn't for a few months"...
Shows how much I care about croquet. |
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| #8 09:31am 19/03/07 |
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Agent 99
Posts: 1520
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Found unconscious in his hotel room today with vomit near him. Taken to hospital but died later. Yeah, it's a well known fact that the media is often reluctant to report a high profile suicide as a suicide so typically report it as just a death and leave the cause "up in the open" so to speak. The reason basically is because a high-profile suicide tends to spark more suicides and accidental deaths in the community if reported to the public (known as the Werther effect) and as such, they have an ethical obligation to keep it quiet. I would hope he didn't suicide and it is still possible that it was a heart attack, but given the way the media has reported it, I would say it is likely a suicide unfortunately. |
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| #9 09:47am 19/03/07 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 20181
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Yeah, it's a well known fact that the media is often reluctant to report a high profile suicide as a suicideLike with Michael Hutchence, for example |
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| #10 09:57am 19/03/07 |
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Kat
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He was MURDERED!
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| #11 10:04am 19/03/07 |
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Spook
Posts: 18104
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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that was an accident
auto erotic asphyxiation is tricky business ok |
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| #12 10:06am 19/03/07 |
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Creepy
Posts: 623
Location: USA
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Reuters -- It is alleged that musician Kurt Cobain suffered a major cerebral haemorrhage when his personal firearm discharged accidentally, while being cleaned.
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| #13 10:07am 19/03/07 |
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HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 14427
Location: Ireland
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| #14 10:46am 19/03/07 |
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HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 14428
Location: Ireland
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additionally the jamacan cops are investigating woolmers death...
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=255334 |
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| #15 10:52am 19/03/07 |
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Predator
Posts: 268
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Werther effect, didn't know that one, very cool :)
Problem is, most people don't realise no matter how bad off you are, there is always someone worse. |
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| #16 12:43pm 19/03/07 |
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Astroboy
Posts: 3961
Location: Germany
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I rekon someone poisoned him Call off the investigation, some newb on some internet forum has solved the mystery |
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| #17 12:51pm 19/03/07 |
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sLiNky
Posts: 786
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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| #18 01:05pm 19/03/07 |
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paveway
Posts: 4699
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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auto erotic asphyxiation is tricky business ok orly? tell us more |
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| #19 01:10pm 19/03/07 |
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Saint
Cainer
Posts: 1819
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Wrong thread?
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| #20 01:13pm 19/03/07 |
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Spook
Posts: 18106
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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would you like to see my pixtures?
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| #21 01:13pm 19/03/07 |
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Astroboy
Posts: 3962
Location: Germany
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Here is a cheap suitable chair to fix your back posture. Probably after a cheap suitable casket |
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| #22 01:22pm 19/03/07 |
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Tollaz0r!
Posts: 7708
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Tis a matter of perception in alot of casses. |
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| #23 01:33pm 19/03/07 |
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paveway
Posts: 4700
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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sure why not spook
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| #24 01:33pm 19/03/07 |
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Chakas
Posts: 1960
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Problem is, most people don't realise no matter how bad off you are, there is always someone worse. With the exception of the one person that is really worst off. |
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| #25 03:22pm 19/03/07 |
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fpot
Posts: 14081
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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And that person is Hunter.
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| #26 04:38pm 19/03/07 |
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Agent 99
Posts: 1522
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Yeah, it's a well known fact that the media is often reluctant to report a high profile suicide as a suicide Well yeah, but then I guess the research that coined the theory 'the werther effect' had to come from somewhere... |
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| #27 04:44pm 20/03/07 |
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fpot
Posts: 14097
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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Possibly murder?
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| #28 08:43pm 21/03/07 |
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fpot
Posts: 14100
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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Murder confirmed.
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| #29 12:12pm 23/03/07 |
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Joanna
Posts: 1013
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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For once cricket has produced something interesting.
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| #30 12:25pm 23/03/07 |
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fpot
Posts: 14101
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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We are still waiting on you.
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| #31 12:26pm 23/03/07 |
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Kat
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Well duh, I said that on page one
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| #32 12:30pm 23/03/07 |
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Creepy
Posts: 638
Location: USA
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Reminds me of the 98 World Cup (soccer) - that colombian bloke that scored an own goal.
Gunned down at a nightclub only weeks later. EDIT: it was 94, and he was Andrés Escobar last edited by Creepy at 12:35:41 23/Mar/07 |
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| #33 12:35pm 23/03/07 |
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Spook
Posts: 18145
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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this is pretty s***
cricket isnt about gambling, match fixing and killing people its about sledging, standing in the sun and drinking beer |
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| #34 02:00pm 23/03/07 |
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IncrEdible_vEgetable
Posts: 726
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Here is a cheap suitable chair to fix your back posture. They are fanbloodytastic. I use mine all the time. Slinky had a hunch all along. |
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| #35 02:14pm 23/03/07 |
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Bah
Posts: 2404
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Choked, just like pakistan..i think the killer has a senseof irony.
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| #36 06:36pm 23/03/07 |
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nF
Forum Hero
Posts: 12878
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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ironic former-cricketer's deaths are the best kind
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| #37 06:51pm 23/03/07 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 20202
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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It's sort of lame that people will actually stoop to killing other people because their team lost a cricket match. I hope this turns out to be a random attack rather than something so depressingly trivial.
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| #38 07:00pm 23/03/07 |
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Posts: 557
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i don't think the motive will have been to avenge pakistan's loss
my guess is the match-fixing business is involved.. either a) woolmer was about to expose/accuse/prove that certain players/bookies were involved with matchfixing or b) the match fixing bookies had heaps of money linked in with a super 8 game involving pakistan vs india or pakistan vs sri lanka etc .. now that pakistan have not even made the super 8 all that is down the gurgler |
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| #39 07:26pm 23/03/07 |
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Zak
Posts: 1411
Location: UK
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I read somewhere that Woolmer was just about to proof read/approve a final draft of an autobiography he was about to release, which apparently contained his thoughts/information about sub-continent cricket. So yes, potentially match-fixing was being discussed.
Don't forget he was also coach of South Africa when the whole Hansie Cronje match-fixing shenanigans were going down too. |
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| #40 02:45am 24/03/07 |
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Creepy
Posts: 642
Location: USA
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And how's old Hansie doing nowadays? Hmmm...
While I'm not immediately sold on a match-fixing connection, the fact that the murder was not so obvious (ie. looked almost like a suicide/accident at first), makes it look more than just the work of angered fanatacism. |
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| #41 03:41am 24/03/07 |
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Spook
Posts: 18150
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Don't forget he was also coach of South Africa when the whole Hansie Cronje match-fixing shenanigans were going down too. hmmm very interesting, the plot thickens!1 |
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