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Topic: problem # 11234 shared internet connection
sleepy
Posts: 376
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

ok im posting here because there are usually a few trolls that know about this stuff. my bro knows a fair bit but is too lazy to help.

-we have three computers sharing a conection (pay telstra a few bucks extra to make them aware of this)
-4 port hub (not sure of brand but bought for about 80 bucks in the last year)
until about a week ago all was fine. everyone had reasonable speeds doing whatever we pleased.
-if you connect your computer directly to the modem it runs like a dream.
-as soon as you revert to more than one computer feeding off a port its either has no speed or extremely slow anyways (such you cant view simple web pages)
-all the lights will light up and flash appropriately as if it was working fine but no good.
-my bro says its probably the hub configuration or then mention something about port 80 (used for viewing internet pages in browswer or something i dunno)
-the twist is it we all share the connection through the hub i can play m/p fps games with a perfect ping while someone next to me cant even view this web site.


prob heading to bed really soon so if anyone has anyideas please leave them and ill have a look in the morning.

p.s. any ideas like deltree windows and format c: are all very funny and stuff but save that dynamite material for another day.

thanks in advance.

pps also excuse any noob lingo i used in that rant. i really dont get into computers i just like pc m/p gaming. thats it. oh and if tax man is listening to do work stuff too.
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parabol
Posts: 3014
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
-4 port hub (not sure of brand but bought for about 80 bucks in the last year)

Find out the exact model. Look at the bottom of it.

Try a different switch to see if it's just that?

I'm a little unclear about the modem. Is it the same device or a different device? If different, what's the exact model?

last edited by parabol at 22:58:29 15/Feb/07
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rubba-chikin
Posts: 5142
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
If it really is a hub, f*** it off and buy a router/switch...
TiT
Posts: 1071
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
billion ftw cheap and can be up and working in less then 5mins
Mr Hardware
Posts: 1466
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
rubba is right once again.
Spook
Posts: 17854
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
-we have three computers sharing a conection (pay telstra a few bucks extra to make them aware of this)


wtf?

since when do you have to pay telstra to share their connection?

unless you mean you get bigger limits

also, switches/routers are so rediculously cheap, burn that hub and never speak of it again
Jim
Posts: 5423
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I thought he was just using the wrong terminology - a hub costing $80 in the past 12 months? a hub even being sold in the past 12 months?!
rubba-chikin
Posts: 5143
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
So was I, but just incase he isn't... hub = megapoo. It sounds like a problem with the hub/switch anyway.

If you can sleepy look at it and post the brand and model of the device you are using pls.
dafugg
Posts: 1346
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
For all you haters: hubs do have their uses. Just technical things in an R&D environment where it's much easier to just transplant a hub instead of f***ing with promisc forwarding on managed gear.
ara
Posts: 1036
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

I would get a router/switch combo device.

For cable, you couldn't go past the WRT45G

For all you haters: hubs do have their uses. Just technical things in an R&D environment where it's much easier to just transplant a hub instead of f***ing with promisc forwarding on managed gear.


it would be easier to find an unmanaged switch then a hub these days.
parabol
Posts: 3015
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
For all you haters: hubs do have their uses. Just technical things in an R&D environment

Exactly.

On at least one occasion I've wanted a hub to be able to listen in on traffic going to a particular host to passively configure a network intrusion program on a different server that was about to replace said host.

Another option was to turn on port mirroring/cloning (whatever it's called) on an expensive switch and cut the Rx line on one of the network cables so that the sniffer box could never talk back ... a bit too fiddly, hence hub ftw.
Jim
Posts: 5424
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
thanks for letting us know about some obscure situation in R&D where it's much easier to transplant a hub instead of f***ing with promiscuous forwarding on managed gear, in this thread about a home user sharing a net connection
Tim Tibbetts
Posts: 1749
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Also does anyone know of any decent programs that will monitor how much you download, and what times. Ideally I would like something that I could setup to monitor how much I download on iinet for on/off peak.
Spook
Posts: 17855
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
the iinet toolbox?
Strange Rash
Posts: 250
Location:
before you start this journey you must first uncover the shadows of your HUB

the road to enlightment will only come from being at one with the mind of your HUB.

the solution, my friend, will become visible by meditating on the plane of UDP then transcending to the plane of TCP. look then for where the sheep cannot cross the river, and there is where you will find your key to solving this riddle.

go now, take the hub and its secrets to the oracle google and begin your journey



Tim Tibbetts
Posts: 1750
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
the iinet toolbox?


It's a shared connection :P It's OK I think I found a program that handles it.
sleepy
Posts: 377
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hey. like i said im sorry about my failure in comp terminology


st lab b/b router model ipr-4p-saa-1

gotta get back to work. i havent read in detail the replys sorry.
parabol
Posts: 3016
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Is this it?

http://www.sunsway.com.hk/products/router-1.html
whoop
Posts: 10964
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
before you start this journey you must first uncover the shadows of your HUB

the road to enlightment will only come from being at one with the mind of your HUB.

the solution, my friend, will become visible by meditating on the plane of UDP then transcending to the plane of TCP. look then for where the sheep cannot cross the river, and there is where you will find your key to solving this riddle.

go now, take the hub and its secrets to the oracle google and begin your journey


WAY too much television for you I think.
sleepy
Posts: 378
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yer thats the one.
still had no joy. im no good at these things.
whoop
Posts: 10967
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
This may be no help to you but here's how I have my telstra cable:

modem -> wrt54g -> pc's
The WRT has a built in telstra client (as do a few others) which logs into telstra and shares it to all the other pc's in the house without the need to pay telstra any more to run multiple telstra login clients.

If it's only a recent thing that your internet is slow I'd be thinking maybe a storm has fried your router, got any friends with routers you can borrow to test?

Can you share files between the pc's ok? nice & fast? Have you tried to reset the router/hub to factory defaults? If it has that option.

edit: have a look at this and look for routers that have a built in bigpond login client.

last edited by whoop at 20:58:48 18/Feb/07
sleepy
Posts: 379
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yer mate probably is the router. it is recent.

ive got an old router which only one port works on it. the one port that works runs the connection fine. kinda defeats the purpose of having one though if only one port works eh :(

guess its off the the local to grab a newy.

thanks all for assistance.
whoop
Posts: 10969
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Well if you're going to grab another, you don't seem like the type who would mess with this kind of thing but in case you care, the latest wrt54g has less memory than the previous versions and runs vxworks. The wrt54gL model is the same as the older 54g and has 16Mb of ram and runs linux so you can put things like DD wrt on it.

edit: that's if you go with the wrt someone suggested earlier

last edited by whoop at 22:22:42 18/Feb/07
jesu
Posts: 532
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It's a shared connection :P It's OK I think I found a program that handles it.


What did you find, I'd like to know.
whoop
Posts: 10971
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
^^ If you have a ddwrt compatible router install rflow collector onto a pc that's always on (I know a few of you f*****s leave your noisy, energy consuming pc's on all night) and it tells you exactly which pc downloads what ammount of data. Doesn't exactly let you do anything about it other than perhaps turn on QoS on the router and cripple the crap out of the ports used by the leechers. screenshot of the most recent version running on my computer monitoring my router.
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