e12 is out
That is all

... great

about as great as heardy's hello thread

omg :o

/me downloads

Would S2e02 make you feel better paveway?

im only up to ep7 :(

Doctor Who is in heroes now!

speaking of new episodes when will the next entourage episode be released?

rome and prison break and 24 all in the one night, i wet myself.

is there a full "dvd" avaialble ;)

entourage due 11/2/07

http://www.hbo.com/apps/schedule/ScheduleServlet?CHANNEL=All+Channels&ACTION_SEARCH=SEARCH&KEY=TITLE&VALUE=entourage

^ I don't know what he's smoking but Sunday April 8 is the date for the next episode of entourage after "Sorry, Ari".

i was very suprised how much i have enjoyed watching heroes, thanks for the heads up of the new episodes.

Crap. PB now Heros back on and I have received the dredded 8GB warning from telstra last week :(

Speaking of shows coming back, what the hell has happened to Lost? What's with showing like 6 episodes and having a two month break?!

they Lost the script

awsome ep

Speaking of shows coming back, what the hell has happened to Lost? What's with showing like 6 episodes and having a two month break?!

they did that instead of showing 2 eps then a 3 week break then another 2 eps with a 3 week break etc like last season.

lost is as dead as tribes 2.. heroes is where its at! love this show. the invicible girl is hawt!

shave the cheerleader, save the world

bsgS03E12 is out aswell :)

Speaking of shows coming back, what the hell has happened to Lost? What's with showing like 6 episodes and having a two month break?!

ABC(US) copped it sweet from their viewers, with the new one/old one/new one/ old one airing schedule last year. Considering that the 'old one' was just an earlier episode from the same season (2) - confused the hell out of newcomers to the show.

Didn't help that season 2 sucked mostly.


The show returns to US tv after Superbowl Sunday - Feb 7th, and it'll run right through to the end with no breaks or repeats...or (thank goodness) lame 'recap' episodes.

Season 4 will air in the same model as 24 - it will start in January of 2008 and run nonstop to end of May (when telly here goes on holidays).

Heroes is gonna run for 7 eps straight, then take around 5 weeks off, and then finish again nonstop.

ep16 is out....
f*** YEAH!

VICTORYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

hero's nearly s***s me as much as Lost does.

I still watch both, but they f***ing s*** me to tears.

Want a good show, go watch 30 Rock - I crack up every time I watchan ep of that :D

why does it s*** u?

I'm likin heroes
It's no HBO show but it's still not bad

just seems to not really give answers, just drags s*** out and then adds stupid things to the plot..

Dunno maybe they are going to do a lost with it and drag it out over 5 or 6 seasons or something equally as stupid.

Wait and see I supose, I'll keep watching it either way I guess...

Having never screwed a sheep, I fail to understand the joy that 'Lost' producers are getting by making people watching their show now

back on topic... I'm really wanting to know whether Peter sees the 'Nuke destruction' dream as something that will happen or whether it's just a 'possibility' sent his way to help aid him to figure out the situation with Syler down the track. It's pretty obvious that he now has some control of his abilities, which is cool - though I'm seriously beginning to wonder whether or not the script-writers will have Syler be another hero like Peter (but with a serious mental problem), or wheher Syler actually needs to kill people to gain their powers.


I am still wondering if it's going to be Syler instead of Peter in the city-nuke situation as things continue to unfold and change in the show's "timeline"

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The thing I like about Heroes is that just when you think you've got something worked out it totally changes. Looks like Peter is turning evil now that he's learning how to control his powers. And anyone comparing the show to Lost needs to be stripped naked in a field and shot in the head. Well maybe not, but still.

8-)

yer, im into heroes now, still got a few eps to watch, but i hate the drawing out of the eps

ffs, axe half the eps and keep the show moving

i dont want to give up coz i get bored easily, but they are skating a thin line

Maybe Sylar steals a changling power from someone and it's really HIM exploding not Peter. Peter's becoming pretty staunch now that he's beginning to control his powers, if he survives the 'explosion' they'll need to put some kind of limit on him otherwise what's the point of having other characters when you have super-Peter. And they better stop skirting around this Lindeman character, he's the equivalent of the monster from Lost season 1.

linderman is appearing in 2 or 3 eps from now.

as for peters dream i dont think its a premonition.

Peter's becoming pretty staunch now that he's beginning to control his powers, if he survives the 'explosion' they'll need to put some kind of limit on him otherwise what's the point of having other characters when you have super-Peter.

Yeh I was thinking the same thing, but they've already seeded the notion of limitations for Peter. It'll probbaly be that if he uses his powers too much, particularly if he's using multiple powers, that he will overload and hurt himself / asplode. So while Peter is versatile, he won't be able to go toe-to-toe with any single Hero for long, or his control won't be as good in a particular area etc. Still, they do need to nerf Druids Peter.

No doubt Dr. Chandra will put it down to the fact that Peter's powers are not a natural fit because they are learned, so his body can't handle them non-stop like the other guys.

What about Nikki / Jessica? Do you lot reckon that the split personality is part of her power, or that its just a 'normal' personality disorder compounded with the super-strength that only Jessica can use?

I hope her power is disappearing from the series asap.

It's annoying me how drawn out some of the plotlines for this show are becoming. I love how Rome gives u so much closure with each episode, and I wish alot of other shows would just aim for 2 or 3 series and then finish on a high.

I read somewhere that Linderman is going to be played by Malcolm McDowell which should be pretty cool :)

I'm pretty sure there was an episode when Nikki was in prison talking to Micah and the guards told her it was time to go and, while still in the Nikki persona, she broke a baton in half before the guards jumped her. I think the super-strength is genetic but only the Jessica persona knows how to fully access and control it. In time I think Nikki will learn to control her power like Peter is doing. No idea if the split personality is a power, if it is maybe she can learn to control it and turn both personalities into one with attributes from both.

Do you lot reckon that the split personality is part of her power

I read some things that the Heroes execs said:

Kring also described that Niki’s split-personality ‘power’ was originally written as ability to be in two places at once, highly fitting for a single mother.

http://www.ogmog.com/2007/02/07/heroes-execs-discuss-shows-future-lost-more/

I guess that makes sense since she originally did heaps of s*** far away in a short amount of time while blacked out.

What is it with people comparing Heroes to Lost. I have seen it occur on more than one forum

Peter just needs to have it out with the jessica persona :p

i'm just watching as it's on TV

pretty damn cool imo

What is it with people comparing Heroes to Lost. I have seen it occur on more than one forum

It has a plot. Unlike lost however, this one is more than “a cool idea” rather Hero’s is a 5 year plan.

It has a plot. Unlike lost however, this one is more than “a cool idea” rather Hero’s is a 5 year plan.

The only show I've seen pull off a 5 year plan properly was Babylon 5. That's my only worry with heroes, is that it isn't going to make it. We'll see though.

As for comparing it to lost. It is just how they have done the story. With everyone's lives sort of intermingling, etc. Unlike Lost though, the story is going some where and fast :p

What about Nikki / Jessica? Do you lot reckon that the split personality is part of her power, or that its just a 'normal' personality disorder compounded with the super-strength that only Jessica can use?

she's so hot

The only show I've seen pull off a 5 year plan properly was Babylon 5. That's my only worry with heroes, is that it isn't going to make it. We'll see though.

As far as I know, Babylon 5 is the only show – at least in sci-fi - that had bothered to make a 5 year plan. Most shows focus on this episode and the one following and have no plan for the future with past episodes being cannon or plot devices for episodes being written. The best we get are short story arcs, or in very rare cases an entire season is planned out ahead of time.

I went and watched a few eps of 30 rock, when does the funny kick in? :/

I went and watched a few eps of 30 rock, when does the funny kick in? :/

It's only funny because the canned laughter told him to laugh.

what ever, 30 Rock is tops (imo).

Studio 60 was good too but it might end up getting canned.

I believe both have been issued the marching orders after their first seasons run out. Still to see something official, but it doesn't look good.

I heard Heroes has been planned up to season three

The new ep is out already and it was actually pretty f***ing good, like real good imo

That latest ep of Heroes was f***ing amazing. Would have to be one of the best things I've seen in ages plus seeing Eric Roberts turn up in something that doesn't suck was refreshing. That ep explained an ass-load of stuff so it will be interesting to see where the show goes from here.

10/10 for that ep.

I usually have to wait until tomorrow to watch it

ooer, that was good!!!

Who else nearly cried?... come on, admit it!

I'm so dirty with this show. why the hell couldn't they be nightly?! I HATE having to wait another week for the next ep! *wails*

love this show more than I've liked any show for a long time!
the only show I've watched so religiously was monkey magic back when I was in pre-school!

its like LOST - but with everything explained.

Crazy idea, but I like it!

That last ep was freaking awesome!

yeah, I agree spidz. Lost was so f***ing vague I lost interest after less than 4 weeks.

although there are some mild plot flaws, I admire the script writers and screenplay artists thus far :)

Who else nearly cried?... come on, admit it!

Well i thought i was going to see claires breast for a second, but then the father put a jacket over her before she healed... that made me almost cry.

heh when I read the synopsis of the last one online last week, I was thinking that it was going to be the s***test of them all, as I hate flashback stuff. But it turned out to be one of the best, was a really great ep

Shame that next weeks is the last EP for 5 weeks

ep17 was awsome. this show gets better and better with every new ep. next weeks looks fantastic as always.


gah 5 week wait? that sucks :( least we will have 5 eps in a row with episode 23 being 2 hours i think.

Nip Tuck is far better than all this s***.

Sifn't hot chicks smearing their sons jism on their faces to make them look younger.

oh man Nip/Tuck is so cool

kimba <3

you're a sick lad casa

I loved nip tuck season 1/2, 3 I still havent watched much of, two started to get stupid, I'll probably buy 3 on dvd as I own one and two, but according to the cast the next is the one to watch.

The only show I've seen pull off a 5 year plan properly was Babylon 5.

I've been going through the series of B5 with my Girly. Every now and then I think to myself how remarkably coherant (sp?) the story is. Now I know why, they used a 5 year plan. YAY! :D

Yeh, every episode in Heroes seems to stay on the plot. This is probably why I'm so hooked. Smallville and Stargate(s) are good and all, but theres so much random stuff in most of each season that doesnt get the story anywhere. I suppose thats the whole one-ep-at-a-time thing.

Yer Stargate has SOO many filler episodes that have no impact on the rest of the show at all :(

Did Buffy have a long term plan? I wonder if Firefly did?

this is getting awesome :) im currently up to ep 10 and i'm loving every minute of it. It's finally cool to see sylar and what his power originally was.

Just about to watch ep11-17 :D yay

Did Buffy have a long term plan? I wonder if Firefly did?

Buffy: It mostly went on the self-contained seasonal approach. Setup a 'Big Bad' for the season early on, and then lead up to a big biffo at the end. Joss occasionally threw in a couple of things early on, to develop later:

- The Mayor was referred to in season 2 as being one who knew about Buffy, the Hellmouth, etc. He finally appeared in season 3 and was the Big Bad.

- Willow's sexual orientation: passing reference in season 3 (Dopplegangland), expanded from season 4 onward.

- Dawn: hinted at in season 3 (Faith refers to "lil sis" in a dream sequence), Tara says "Be home before Dawn" in season 4's "Restless". Dawn appears season 5 onward

The rest was mostly made-up season-to-season, and referred backward in a "knew-it-all-along" style. Things like "The First Evil," Faith's return, Anya's musical reprisal (leftover song).


As for Firefly. We'll never know. :(


Slow reveal television is nothing new. I'm just amazed that they can get away with it nowadays. Twin Peaks was meant to be slow reveal...but pressure was placed on David Lynch to wrap up the murder story. The show went downhill after that. (since the entire show's premise was resolved)

wow someone got too far into buffy

You wouldnt want to get too far into buffy?

absolutely

but the show got pretty crap after a couple of seasons

How hot is that asian chick on last weeks lost episode, man I wish that episode was constant flashback. If you don't watch lost cause it sucks its the same chick on that entourage episode where vince does the azn red bull commercial and turtle gets slapped by a 5 year old at EA games Fight Night.

wow someone got too far into buffy

Haha. Yeah, but it helps that they play an episode every weekday at the same time every morning. :)

Buffy was supposed to end in S5 with the death of Glory and Buffy sacrificing herself to save the world... then the show was renewed again so they brought her back.

buffy sucked after her mum died

show got all drama-like and s***

buffy sucked after Marti Noxon became a co-executive producer

show got all drama-like and s***

Fixed.

Saw the promo for next week's Heroes - looks insane! Pity it's the last new ep for a month. :(

mmmmmmmmm fried noodle.

i'm downloading the episode, even tho i gave up on lost...


is it still worth downloading people?

nope

I'm still downloading and watching it, but more out of habit than anything else.

Totally itching for a new episode of Rome though!

Zeroes!

Haha slaps thats not bad

haha

How hot is that asian chick on last weeks lost episode,

She's that asian celeb who's famous for nothing in particular, like paris hilton was before she did her porno, but no one knows what she's famous for, but she's still in all the women's magazines.

Yeah she was in entourage.

Also Monday seems to be the go for heroes these days with a new episode out RIGHT NOW, so prop your satellites to NBC and watch.
and family guy

I don't think its NBC. I read it's out a day earlier because the Canadian station that has the rights broadcasts on Sunday nights.

Also, f*** that. Five weeks to find out what the f***.

god damn this next 5 weeks is gonna suck. i wanna see peter smash the s*** outta sylar now :(

if Hiro can teleport Ando, can Peter and Claire heal others?

thats what im thinking.

i just kind of hope that Mohinder doesn't die, cause that would really suck. Like LOST style suck.

What is with freaky grandmother patrelli? Go granny go!

Syler's getting annoying.. He escapes too much.. rest of the show is awesome.

if Hiro can teleport Ando, can Peter and Claire heal others?

hiro can manipulate time, therefore bring whatever he wants back and forth

claire (and thus peter) simply regenerate their own human tissue/dna/cells/whatever the hell it is that makes up human bodies

Nakor is back from the dead

nakor is back to finding ways to waste time whilst sitting in uni lectures :)

I didn't think they'd kill off the hot French-black chick so soon and thought peter would somehow heal her.

heroes is on tonight, can a n***** get a HELL YEAH

you're not a n*****, you're just a white little boy trying to be one.. Big P

btw the P is for pindick.

I'm a junkie for this show. Its so good :)

Just watched episode 18 and i cant wait to see 19. Only thing i dont like about it is how strong sylar is.
a) how did he turn off the drip that Mohinder set up to paralyze his brain?
b) it seems he has some sort of healing ability aswell because he fell from 5 stories and didnt seem to be hurt and was killed and brought himself back to life in that cell at the paper place

Peter met future Hiro on the train.

So why aren't we seeing some Petrelli space-time warping action yet!?!?#!

a) how did he turn off the drip that Mohinder set up to paralyze his brain?
b) it seems he has some sort of healing ability aswell because he fell from 5 stories and didnt seem to be hurt and was killed and brought himself back to life in that cell at the paper place

telekinesis

his original power was that he knew how things work. he used his power to learn how the drip affected his body then he "evolved" so that it no longer had any affect on him. he was then able to use his other powers again. i think his original power cant be hindered by drugs etc, because he did the same thing when HRG had him prisoner.

nah i'm pretty glad i'm not a n***** suhaib, but i like talking like them

i'm just watching the show on TV right, what was the deal with when the chick is fighting her black husband. he has the power of invisbility? or he can pass through solid matter? cause in one shot it looked like he had his hand around her throat, the other looked like he had his hand inside of her abdomen ..?

So why aren't we seeing some Petrelli space-time warping action yet!?!?#!

Playing devil's advocate, the answer might just be because the writers just didn't do it that way.

BUT

Maybe Hiro somehow shielded Pete from his ability, its possible that Pete f***ing around with the space-time continuum is a bad idea.

Warping space-time doesn't seem natural or instinctual. Most of Peter's powers he seems to have learned to use in a moment of crisis, falling off a building, bleeding to death etc.

Who knows.

he has the power of invisbility? or he can pass through solid matter? cause in one shot it looked like he had his hand around her throat, the other looked like he had his hand inside of her abdomen ..?

Yeh DL can pass through solid objects.

So why aren't we seeing some Petrelli space-time warping action yet!?!?#!

peter hasnt remembered how he "felt" when he was with future hiro - this is how he uses the powers he doesnt realise he has yet...ie when he fell from the roof onto the car, he "felt" how he felt when he accidently healed himself with claire next to him after sylar

my bets is his is how he stops sylar from taking his head

btw, we know that peter has the ability to manipulate time, thats how future hiro spoke to him - peter was the only other one that would be able to stay unfrozen when hiro comes back

actually nakor, we don't.

for all we know, future hiro has better control over his ability and can discriminate his targets, so to speak. like when he take ando to the future, etc

Well at least we know how peter gets his "Scar" now that future hiro spoke of. (well maybe, but having his skull cut open might leave a mark .... perhaps hehe).

I cant wait to see all the cold and telekinisis and item melting s*** thats going to go back and forth in the battle between peter and sylar as he absorbs his powers and uses them against him along with some sneaky invis and Regenerating and reading Sylars thoughts while they fight perhaps... :D.

Damn Peter is going to be powerful after this fight!

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But he has healing powers now... why would he have a scar?

Ooer, maybe he loses them but lives?

DUN DUN!

It's also possible with the fight going on and some events afterswards he might be to distracted to remember how he felt around the cheerleader leaving him to heal normally for awhile.

It's definately going to be a tough one on the writers if they still intend to write that one in but as with much of the premise of the rest of the show, actions taken may change the possible futures.

or he doesnt get a scar anymore because he did what future hiro told him to do and saved the cheerleader. i think in future hiros future peter never met claire so never got her power.

if he doesnt get a scar then it will prove they can change the future

I'd totally plug Claire. I think Hiro and Ando are awesome for comedic relief. I also like them because they speak slow enough in Japanese for me to understand :P (subtitles are for whores)

Based on trog's new avater - I think he is Peter Petrelli.

Is episode 19 due to come out or is there a break for some silly reason?

i hope peter doesnt use the space time thing and save whats-her-face.. the junky painters old missus

Is episode 19 due to come out or is there a break for some silly reason?

From what I heard there's a 5 week break :/

more like 7 week break. it comes back on april 23

i hope peter doesnt use the space time thing and save whats-her-face.. the junky painters old missus

I think we've already learnt that you can't change the past.

finally got through ep 18, awesome

loved it, in particular ep 17 cleared up a lot of questions for me!

treated myself and watched the last two eps in 720i

very nice, dunno if its worth the extra gig of downloads though (just less, HD eps are 1.2 gig)

Oh my god ... best episode of a TV show evar.

HD DivX rips ftw spookles


ep19 made me feel tingly in my pants

yer, i grab hd rips of whatever i can whenever i can

heroes and entourage usually in 720p are money

didnt like the latest ep overly

i dont doubt they are going somewhere with it though

ep20 was f***ing brillant.

excellent as always.

19.1% downloaded...

sooo good. ^_^

I came.

Spoiler:
i reckon hiro wont be able to stop new york from blowing up same as how he couldnt stop the chick who can remember everything from dieing but like her i reckon he can stop it from looking like the good guys did it and save the day that way, also peter is a hardcore mother f***er

Episode 20 was simply awesome.

I concur. f***ing awesome episode

I'll reiterate.


I came.

I came.

What .. the Future-Hiro and Ando sexual-tension scenes gave you a manrection?

omg :D Can't wait!

awsome episode. loved the homages to xmen and the matrix

Parabol> yep, everything about Hiro gives me tingles in my mangina.

Oh damn... just when you think it'd be hard to top the last ep... BOOM right through the ceiling.

That just brought the show to a whole new level.

f*** that was awesome, peter is a hardc***.

OH MY f***ING GOD.

That was quite possibly the most awesome thing ever to grace the small screen. Every time I think it can't get any more awesome, it just goes and proves me wrong. Future Peter is a hardcore motherf***er without parallel.

i wonder when they will have sylar killing who ever he needs to kill to get his impersonation power.

Holy f***ing s*** that ep was amazing!!!!

I wanted to see Sylar and Peter battle it out but I guess we'll have to wait or now it might never happen. Only thing that was disappointing was there was no big battle with Hiro and Peter making their way up to sissy Hiro. Would have loved to see Peter taking down all those armed guards. Would have been much carnage indeed!

Now the long wait til next week.

i wonder when they will have sylar killing who ever he needs to kill to get his impersonation power.

if you mean the shape changer, it was that chick who works for claires dads company.

wow! that was awesome, this is a f***ing awesome show. They are doing like 6 seasons of this arent they? wonder what the story will be like after they stop the bomb/ dont stop it?

I dont understand how hiro going back in time to kill sylar will help anything seeing as peter is the one who is the bomb?

wonder what the story will be like after they stop the bomb/ dont stop it?

From what I've heard it'll be a whole new cast, with the story I guess following a similar pattern.

^ nope they scratched that. its going to be same cast but they are going to add some new characters.

Twas just thinking if Sylar knew he had Hiro captured why didn't he go and grab his power as well? This show sucks, it has so many holes in it. Never watching it again!

i wonder when they will have sylar killing who ever he needs to kill to get his impersonation power.

Yeah, remember he made mention that he met a woman who allowed him to be president or something - while he was talking to claire

And Rev, you lie ;)

Twas just thinking if Sylar knew he had Hiro captured why didn't he go and grab his power as well?

The hatian was there, he would turn back into Sylar and be easily captured without his powers.

Only have the hatian was dead did he go there...

I knew that, just seeing if you did. Well done, you've passed the test.

8-)

*cough*heroes newb*cough*

ok someone figure this one out for me...

Spoiler:
So the cheerleader is still alive in the future so we're assuming that peter has taken her regeneration ablity, so why does he have a huge scar on his face?

Spoiler:
molly has a leech/block power that stops peter from healing when she is around and gets injured while around her - purely a guess btw

Spoiler:

who is molly, and couldn't he just heal later on after having a nice sleep or watch some dvd's

Just saw ep20. Holy f***ing s***. Awesome. More uber Sylar vs Peter super-psychic showdown plz kthnxbi.

I just love how bad guy ands good guy can never have the same coloured 'mojo/lazers'

Lol, foolish woman.

I just love how bad guy ands good guy can never have the same coloured 'mojo/lazers'

The cool thing is Peter can sit around getting Sylar to do the hard work collecting powers, and then he just has to walk up to him and "LOL I have your powerz"

I'm not going to bother with spoiler tags, because if you're reading this thread without watching it first you're an idiot.

My guess is the reason Peter has the scar is because it has some meaning behind it, and hes keeping it for a reason, like to remind him of something or punish himself or something like that. Cos yeah, if he stole the regen power, he could heal that scar whenever he wants, so if he still has it hes probably chosen to have it.

Spoiler:

Future Hiro maps out time in Isacc's studio and realises where he go the rengeration power so he can tell Peter to save her in the past.

As Peter did save the cheerleader he has the regen ability and the cheerleader is alive and hence Sylar doesn't have that ability. So future Hiro's plan to save the world by saving the cheerleader hasn't worked as he expected. Sylar still survives his attack without the regen ability and ends up getting the regen ability from the cheerleader in the future.

They seem to be in a version of the future with both changed and unchanged elements from time travel. Seems all a bit confusing.

The thing that changes the future isn't saving the cheerleader, that just enables the thing which changes the future, its just a vital piece of the puzzle. The thing which actually changes the future is Hiro stabbing Sylar. And since Hiro hasn't stabbed Sylar yet, the future isn't changed yet (though claire was alive so Peter must have still had the healing power thing in the future).

Then of course, if future Hiro made his whole timeline under the assumption it was Sylar who was the bomb, and didn't know it was Peter, everything he worked out would be completely and utterly wrong.

But future Hiro said he had already stabbed Sylar and he regenerated, hence the flaw since Clare is alive he couldn't have that power.

hate to say this but heroes is totally aids

I'd ask you to link to something to prove that but... you know...

i dont think he actually explodes when he goes nuclear. i think it just a massive release of energy but his body stays intact. therefore he doesnt need regen to survive.

thats my understanding aswell.

Time travel always gets messy. I'm sure if they want to explain it they can bust out some quasi-scientific sounding quantum bulls*** about how theres an infinite number of possible futures and each time something happens in the world it spawns a possible future where that decision/event could have gone every possible way, and that the future Hiro went to was just one of many possible futures. But quite frankly, I hope they don't, I'm happy to just suspend disbelief and go along for the awesome ride.

I'm confused. Sylar is a douchebag

apparently peter gets his dream premonition power from his Spoiler:
mother

but peter himself admitted that it was him who blew up NYC, so how would killing sylar, or even saving the cheerleader stop the bomb, wouldn't peter need to be the one who dies?

ok so i have a question...

if matt can hear thoughts.. how come he wasn't able to pick up on sylar/nathan's unspoken thoughts, then realise his intent therefore realising who he actually was?

surely sylar would of let a few evil thoughts slip in 5 years....

He probably made sure he was never in close proximity to him.

As Khel said, if you got here somehow dodging spoilers, good on ya, but there's some below.

But future Hiro said he had already stabbed Sylar and he regenerated, hence the flaw since Clare is alive he couldn't have that power.

I think its possible for Claire to be alive and Sylar to have nicked her powers. In the time line that Hiro went to, Sylar has regen powers. Its been established a fair few times that the regen is enough to heal through a mortal brain wound, at least once there isn't a hunk of glass or something else in the road.

Death hasn't been established as necessary for Sylar to steal powers from people. Its just that opening their heads for a look see at what's going on inside normally kills them - Claire could be an exception. She seems to be able to live through pretty heavy duty s***.

- Peter fails to 'save' the cheerleader, she gets her skull opened and Sylar finds out how to heal.
- Sylar leaves Claire is dead. Later she revives, possibly after being declared legally dead by the coroner.
- Bennet hides her.
- The world thinks Claire is dead, so Peter never meets her, and doesn't have regen powers.
- Hiro tries to kill Sylar after the election, but fails because Claire has given him regeneration.
- In the final conflict Peter gets pretty bashed up, gets a scar, but blows the s*** out of New York.

A couple things still got me scratching my head:

Future Mohinder remembers the conversation with Peter about Future Hiro warning him to save the cheerleader. If Future Peter met Future Hiro on the train, then why didn't he save the cheerleader like he was told?!

If Future Peter is the cause of the bomb, and not Sylar, then assuming I'm right above, why doesn't he die in the assplosion? Linderman?

Speaking of Linderman, he was suspiciously absent in the future.

Future Mohinder remembers the conversation with Peter about Future Hiro warning him to save the cheerleader. If Future Peter met Future Hiro on the train, then why didn't he save the cheerleader like he was told?!

maybe what we saw on the train was the second run through of events... maybe the first time it happened, they didnt know.. hence why hiro came back..

also maybe, peter didnt get there on time first time round.. therefore sylar got the regen ability...


*shrugs*

but peter himself admitted that it was him who blew up NYC, so how would killing sylar, or even saving the cheerleader stop the bomb, wouldn't peter need to be the one who dies?

We don't know why Peter blows up. His dream sequence shows him losing control of his powers.

Possibly in a final showdown with Sylar he overloads?

if matt can hear thoughts.. how come he wasn't able to pick up on sylar/nathan's unspoken thoughts, then realise his intent therefore realising who he actually was?

Matt doesn't seem to be able to mine people's brains, he has to trick them into thinking about something, or catch their unguarded thoughts. Sylar is well aware of Matt's abilities and would be pretty careful. Sylar is pretty messed up in the head - maybe he was able to believe in his own mind that he really was Nathan Petrelli when he needed to?

We also don't know the powers of everyone Sylar killed; he might have axed someone with mental powers.

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I think its possible for Claire to be alive and Sylar to have nicked her powers. blah blah blah

So why would sylar have bothered to steal her powers again? You wrote all that crap yet it was very obvious that he was stealing her powers in the episode.

so either sylar did get to claire, some events happened, bomb went off, killed millions then he continued to wreck havoc?

or he didnt get to claire first time round.. and peter got to her first to help her.. not quite sure how he'd survive the blast but if he couldnt regen.. (sylar that is) unless he wasnt near the blast... so.. in that case he killed her in the furture for payback? revenge for getting away the first time?

or sylar got to claire first.. killed her and got her powers.. she healed herself after he left.. peter got there late.. then picked up her ability too?

Ep 20 was the best episode of any television show I've ever seen, which is a big statement given the weekly 23 minutes of pure awesome that comes out of entourage.

I see zero holes in the plot, you blokes are just talking in circles.

Rocky Balboa Jnr Peter Patrelli makes me warm and fuzzy in the pants.

is there a list of powers that sylar has up to episode 20?

i dont understand how he can kind of heal etc,

-> he got thrown off that overpass, when trying to kill claire, and got owned and seemed to walk away pretty much unharmed.

and there where another few times aswell that he has seemed to not get hurt from situations that normal people would get hurt in.

He landed on peter who cushioned his fall.
His telekinesis stops bullets.

and there where another few times aswell that he has seemed to not get hurt

Like getting shot, and then uber-running and escaping and climbing s*** and stuff?

I think they just changed his powers half-way, like with Niki originally having the power to be in two places at once (before being changed to being f***ing annoying and useless to the plot).

You guys think WAY to much about this. Just enjoy

agree parabol nikki/jessica isn't quite hot enough to be that annoying

You guys think WAY to much about this. Just enjoy

shoosh women, i like to discuss and understand the show.

I don't think Sylar got anything from Clair until that meeting at the house where he finally caught her and then did his thing. If he had any type of healing power before that my guess is he got it from Linderman since you don't see him in the ep. So if Hiro does stab Sylar with his sword and he survives, maybe he used Lindermans power to heal himself.

Just a thought.

Sylar didn't need to get it from Clair, he got it when he killed Peter who'd gotten it from Clair. He hadn't seen it at that stage, and didn't know what clair's power was.

Sylar didn't have to worry about having his mind read cause he always had the Haitian around. And what's his story? He's good enough to help save Clair when her father gets his memory wiped but still working for an evil government in the future?

for you guys I recommend a jigsaw puzzle instead

also i hope all you guys are reading the heroes comic book which can be found on the site, gives alot of insight into bits and pieces the show doesnt cover, last few comics showed how linderman and the petreillis have a connection with each other.

pretty awesome stuff.

What if Clair's ability is to come back from the dead and not just heal cuts and scratches? It's been told quite a bit that by having large chunks of wood or glass in the brain makes them dead but after removing the object, Clair (and Peter) came back to life.

That would explain why Sylar can still heal but still wanted Clair's abilities AND backs up the whole "Save the Cheerleader, save the world" thing.

PS: I'd like to stick my own object into Clair to prove the theory.

Why is everyone making it so much more complicated than it really is? Did you watch the same show I did? Cos it all pretty much made sense to me, I don't see why people are having so much trouble, its like the plane on the treadmill all over again.

link to heroes graphic novel

this weeks comic is ace, explains how peter and niki meet in the future.

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Why is everyone making it so much more complicated than it really is? Did you watch the same show I did? Cos it all pretty much made sense to me, I don't see why people are having so much trouble, its like the plane on the treadmill all over again.

Psssh heathen, half the fun of Heroes is trying to work out exactly what's going on and filling in the holes with supposition.

You sound like kat now Khel!

It's a nerds provocative to analyze television shows like this.

/jumping on the kat and khel bandwagon

Sylar didn't have to worry about having his mind read cause he always had the Haitian around. And what's his story? He's good enough to help save Clair when her father gets his memory wiped but still working for an evil government in the future?

If I was Sylar I'd be staying the hell away from the Haitian. Becoming suddenly powerless and revealing yourself as the most hated man on the planet? Uncool.

The Haitian might think he's working for the greater good, if he's buying into the line post-explosion that powers are too dangerous to leave lying around.

That's what's really interesting about the Heroes story. The analogy being drawn to another New York disaster - and what followed politically in the States - is pretty clear...

*toots the horn*
All aboard

It's a nerds provocative to analyze television shows like this.

that doesn't even make sense!^%!@#!

Casa wrote:

/jumping on the kat and khel bandwagon

Who's the meat in that sandwich ?

me plz
oh wait..

that doesn't even make sense!^%!@#!

I think he meant prerogative

it still doesn't make sense!&^%$!~#&^$

Na saying "It's a *insert annoying stereotype/label here*'s prerogative" is the new buzz phrase.

Gives me the s***s.

All I hear is "It's a woman's prerogative to blah blah blah" or "It's a man's prerogative blah blah blah"


I do not think that it means what you think that it means!

Bobby Browns was singing about prerogative in the 80's, he was obviously a genius ahead of his time.

My 2 cents

I have always argued that you can't change time...

So i think the 5 year future episode, has to be the way it ends up...
There is no changing it...

He is my usual reasoning (if it can be called that)

---

If i gave you a time machine right now and I gave you the choice between:

1) go back and assassinate Hitler as a child
2) Go back and assassinate Jesus as a child

Which would you choose?

Well, you could choose either, but:

You would fail to assassinate the person because I know of both people...
or
If you succeeded I would pose a different 2 options because I would not know of one so you have changed nothing

Therefor... You can not change history, period!

:)

---

Hiro must fail!

Then again this is just a TV show, where people can fly and walk through walls, so they can do anything they like :)

I'd choose Hitler, cause you can't assassinate fictitious people.

your all a bunch of fagots

ps: girls should be slaves in this tv show

Jesus was a real person... just not a divine son of god ( who is fictitious :) )

Na saying "It's a *insert annoying stereotype/label here*'s prerogative" is the new buzz phrase.

Gives me the s***s.

All I hear is "It's a woman's prerogative to blah blah blah" or "It's a man's prerogative blah blah blah"


I do not think that it means what you think that it means!

sure it does

but look at the context he was trying to use it in, it doesn't make sense right before saying that about the bandwagon. what he should've said in that context was "it's typical nerd behaviour to analyze television shows like this." or at least said "even though it's a nerd's prerogative to analyze television shows like this, I am jumping on the kat bandwagon"

Na saying "It's a *insert annoying stereotype/label here*'s prerogative" is the new buzz phrase.

Gives me the s***s.

Silence woman!

It is my prerogative as a woman to go off about things whenever I want!

You're a woman?

All these years i thought you were a gay male

Sorry :(

Mate are you ok ?

You're trying to apply real world laws, physics and logic to what is essentially a comic book universe. That way lies madness.

Sadly, NBC is encouraging people to submit theories. What they don't tell you, is that those ideas become their property. This is especially handy should the oft-threatened writers strike go ahead.

But on this episode:

- Sylar saying "I've been waiting a long time for this" is an odd thing to say if he already 'killed' Claire once - which we're all assuming since, Claire knew exactly who Sylar is

- I don't think Peter ever met Claire in the timeline Present-day Hiro jumped to

- Present-day Sylar can survive falls due to his telepathy

- I'm more convinced now more than ever, that the events leading to the explosion is the direct result of Hiro trying to kill/hurt Sylar. I think this is fitting - present-day Hiro never questions what he does next. This is a trademark character flaw (setup for the 'fall' and redemption)

Which means that in three weeks, season 1 should fittingly end with a bang. :)

Sylar saying "I've been waiting a long time for this" is an odd thing to say if he already 'killed' Claire once - which we're all assuming since, Claire knew exactly who Sylar is

Claire would still know who he is if she was saved, she saw him at her school when he killed that other cheerleader chick, and she saw Peter own him. She knows he cuts the tops of people's heads, someone might have filled her in on all the details about all the other powers he has, so I'm sure it wouldn't be hard for her to put the pieces together and go "Hey, this person behind me just froze me in place with telekinesis and is cutting my head open... OMG SYLAR!"

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When did Sylar kill Clair before that scene in the ep? He's been waiting since that time he tried to get her at school unless I'm missing something.

in the future reality, peter didn't save him.. so he would have killed her ?

one of the graphics novels from a couple of weeks ago was about future hiro and him trying to find the exact point he should go back to stop whats happened. one of the picture he had hanging on the string was a picture of dead claire with the top of her head cut off. so im guessing there is multiple timelines.

- Sylar saying "I've been waiting a long time for this" is an odd thing to say if he already 'killed' Claire once - which we're all assuming since, Claire knew exactly who Sylar is

Wait, what? Why would you assume he killed Claire previously when what he says indicates exactly otherwise, that's retarded.

Future Hiro claimed Sylar was invulnerable, due to Peter not intercepting Sylar's attack on Claire in the past (his whole reasoning for jumping back in time).

That, and the "brain damage" theories already covered here - she can live through brain trauma. And Claire knew of Sylar once he revealled himself (although she coulda just been warned by Mr Bennett in the past, that Sylar is a mean motor scooter).

Eh. The lack of Linderman speaks volumes. Considering he himself wanted the assplosion to go ahead.

I think we can all agree multiple timelines suck. Should just have one past, present and future that Hiro can move between.

That, and the "brain damage" theories already covered here - she can live through brain trauma.

i still dont get how she cant regen when theres a stick in her head but can when its taken out. i thought it might have something to do with the spinal cord being seperated from the brain when the stick is in, but they are still seperated when its taken out. grr questions that will probably never get answered.

For easy understanding, lets call the main Hiro of the series Hiro1 and "Future Hiro" Hiro2. 5 years ago, Hiro2 stabbed Sylar, but he had killed claire, and regenned, so five years later, Hiro2 goes back in time to stop Sylar killing Claire and getting the regen. He is successful. Now when Hiro1 stabs Sylar, he won't regen. But Hiro1 hasn't stabbed Sylar yet, so for the sake of the story, Sylar is still alive, and the future hasn't changed.

It doesn't matter what would happen in the "real world", thats the way the narrative is flowing, and thats the order the events are meant to be perceived in by us, the viewer. Its a comic book world, laws of physics and reality are secondary to action and cool storylines, so just enjoy the ride and stop trying to make it all fit!

When you push, and push and push for some kind of real explanation for how its all possible, thats when the writers are forced to come up with silly ideas like infinite parallel universes, hypertime, and people beating on the walls of reality.

to stop Sylar killing Claire and getting the regen

I think Sylar kills Linderman for the healing power which is why Claire is alive 5 years later. Which leads to how Hiro still fails his mission (Stabbing won't work) and leads to the 5 years future episode actually being the way it all ends.

Season 2... I'll call it "The Resistance"
Which will start with the ultra cool battle between Sylar and Petrelli outside the door in the "future". Fire and Ice going crazy :)
And the series will be about the clearing of there names and building a new future with acceptance of there kind... especially since the President just flew away from a press conference. Will be a good story

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cheers khel that puts it all in perspective

peter is f***en badass




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they did call the imprisonment of 'heroes' to protect the general public 'the lindeman act' so I still think he is either alive, or very much has been influential in the 5 years since the explosion.

Yeah, I caught that too, it was on the news on the tv or something? I think Linderman is going to play a BIG part in whats to come, I don't think hes going to die and have his brains eaten by Sylar in the near future. Remember, hes the one that gets Nathan into the whitehouse, so he has to stay around at least that long.

thang kod sylar was nathan in teh future

i was getting really angry at all the stuff he was doing!!!

Here is a twist...

What if the future president was in fact Nathan who has taken all Sylars powers instead...

Making Nathan an uber bad dude who kills Sylar then takes his powers (no idea how, perhaps Sylar explains how he can do it to Nathan ) then goes on a killing rampage in the guise of Sylar to get even more power :)

I think Nathan is power hungry enough to do it :)

Here is a twist...

What if the future president was in fact Nathan who has taken all Sylars powers instead...

I think you should lay off the crack.

I don't see how flying powers would allow him to achieve any of that.

metrix = gay

I don't see how flying powers would allow him to achieve any of that.

I bet you didn't even see how someone could fly before you learnt about flying powers

new ep today. WOOT!

I heard the next ep is gonna be crap so you shouldn't bother watching it.

You are all lame for arguing about this crap.

Back to the task at hand ie. Heroes!

Random nerd sighting from heroes.

Hiro's dad (played by the actor who was Sulu on the Original Startrek) was driving a car with the number plate NCC-1701 (USS Enterprises registry number in the original series).

hah thats cool Obes

yeah, i was watching that ep after having a few drinks, and literally had to pause the show because i was laughing so hard after seeing the number plate

It isn't crap, but it isn't action packed. More plot set up

latest ep wasnt too bad. hiro is such a pussy. but atleast they are finally all coming together in new york for the big bang.

I don't want to sound like Metrix spouting wild unfounded theories, but does anyone else get the feeling like all the parents and older generation are part of the "evil" supergroup while the kids are the good guys who have to fight them? Linderman, Hiro's dad, Nathin & Peter's mum, they've all been shown to be connected and working together, and I think in a previous episode Linderman said he had worked with friends who had powers when he was younger to try and fight evil and save the world.

I reckon it'd be really cool if all the parents and older people in the show are like some group of heroes from the 60's who are now disillusioned with how they couldn't make a difference and have taken a more hardline approach. It actually reminds me of Watchmen a little. Actually the concept of causing a catrosphe and killing thousands of people for the purpose of unifying everyone and bringing them together reminds me of Watchmen a LOT.

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I find it hard to figure peter's motivation for hanging around, he keeps saying it's him that will explode and yet he knows what the nuclear dude looks like, wouldn't you just steer clear of him altogether? or better yet get claire to kill the nuclear dude so that he doesn't even have a chance of passing on his powers?

I don't want to sound like Metrix spouting wild unfounded theories,

Well now i have another whole episode to spew forth before mentioned theories...

Well I feel that...

Actually haven't got anything new... still stand by... Hiro can't do the deed.. and the 5 year future episode is exactly how this will all end up... Linderman is the source of healing and Peter is the bomb...

Not too sure about the blank comic tho...

You simply can not change the future :)

Now i am off to read the Comic , which will prove me theory complete wrong :)

I don't want to sound like khel accusing metrix of spouting wild unfounded theories when all he did was present some ideas, so I'm not going to

I think jim wears women's skirts and pretends its a mutant power.

These aren't fantasies, they're options.

I find it hard to figure peter's motivation for hanging around, he keeps saying it's him that will explode and yet he knows what the nuclear dude looks like, wouldn't you just steer clear of him altogether? or better yet get claire to kill the nuclear dude so that he doesn't even have a chance of passing on his powers?

actually peter doesnt know whether its him, ted or sylar that blows up. hes hanging around to try and stop it if its ted or sylar.

You simply can not change the future

the future has already changed ya numbskull

I wear obes' skirts

the future has already changed ya numbskull

Damn missed it :( which part has changed?

The future hasn't changed unless the bomb doesn't go off or something big like Sylar dying.

So what freaky power do we think Peter and Nathan's mum has? I'm betting on wind........she looks like she'd employ the dutch oven attack on a whim.

sup mass

claire was dead in the future now shes alive. read the graphic novels ffs.

imo peter gets that dreaming power from his mum.

Didn't Isaac say that the future can't be changed? The evidence is obvious when the timeline has Peter saving Clare but then a few episodes later Hiro & Ando jump into the future and the bomb has gone off. Shouldn't the saving of Clare in their timeline have stopped the bomb?

I'm going to predict that the explanation of the brunette chicks (Bennetts co-worker) ability will be a big part in what's going to come. Previously we thought she could change shape but after this episode it seems she can change what people can see.

claire was dead in the future now shes alive. read the graphic novels ffs.

Or is it that everyone thought she was dead except Bennett put her into hiding.

claire was dead in the future now shes alive. read the graphic novels ffs.

No. You read it! This is why having different timelines sucks.

It was assumed by all Claire Bear was dead...

We have all seen that dad knew she was alive, and from the 5 year ep we see he is the one hiding the heroes from the comapny so he is good at hiding ppl

So there is no "Save the cheerleader, save the world" because she was never killed... How disappointing :(

Again, the 5 years future ep is gospel

We are just leading up to the inevitable

sigh

I believe they have already changed the future. Syler was supposed to be the bomber but he needed Clair's power to do it. Now that he missed out on getting it the future has changed, the bomb may still go off but it won't be from Syler.....that leaves Ted or Peter to go thermo on New York. Now Peter believes that he will go nuke......unfortunately Isac/Syler's paintings aren't exactly that descriptive at the moment.

in the graphic novel called string theory, future hiro is looking at claires string and hanging on the string is a photo from most likely a newspaper of omg dead claire. her head cut off and everything.

i think atm sylar doesnt care if he dies when he blows up, so atm all he needs is teds power.

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You simply can not change the future :)

Nah, you can change the future it's the past that you can't change. The future is determined by the *most likely timeline* and isn't concrete until it actually happens.

'Future Hiro' builds the timeline string to try and work out the exact moment that something needs to *change* to ensure the timeline splits off at the correct time and place. He knows that 'Past Hiro' will come to see him, because he went to see 'Future Hiro' when he was 'Past Hiro'.

Assuming 'Past Hiro' can kill Silar at the appropriate time, He'll spawn a new future where the bomb doesn't go off. 'Future Hiro's' timeline will either cease to exist, or continue on as a completely seperate universe.

It's all elementary String Theory / 4+ Dimension Theory. :P

Anyone know how Sylar slipped out of Hiros time stoppage?

That one confuses me :(

And the frosty freezy thing Gabriel did to the sword?

Of course I have a theory Khel ;)

sylar didnt do anything. when hiro froze time, sylars mum froze in mid fall. im guessing hiro lost concentration and time started again because sylars mum fell to the floor when sylar moved.

Correct. I would think Hiro's uncertainty about killing Sylar made him loose concentration and drop the timefreeze.

Sylar has been able to do the "frosty freezey" thing since, like, ever. Right back in the second episode, in the scene that introduces Parkman, hes at a homicide done by Sylar and the guy sitting at the table with his head cut open is frozen.

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this is the first time we have seen sylar physically use his freeze power (other than at the end of last weeks ep) in the show. he used it in the graphic novel to escape from some cops.




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did you mean "isn't" ?

no i mean is.

It sounded like the company was just going to let off a regular ol nuke so Nathan could take the reigns as President and become loved/accepted by the peons in their time of need and its not actually any of the peeps with powers that goes kaboom.

no i mean is.

but in the original context before being edited, your comments didn't make sense if you meant "is"

read the graphic novels ffs

f*** off nerdy c***

f*** off nerdy c***

says the person posting on an internet gaming forum...

Watch the oestrogen fly

It's Nathan that can fly

It's Nathan, Peter & Sylar that can fly

fixed




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sylar cant just yet. levitate himself maybe, but not fly to the extent that nathan can

also not sure peter has the greatest control over his flying - still trying to work out how his empathy actually works (ie - if he just naturally inherits their powers, which i think is accurate, or if he still needs connections to people to be able to use their power at full strength)

imo peter just stores the powers until he wants to use them. he doesnt need any special connection with the people he takes powers from. what i dont know is whether he has to know that the person has a power before he can use their power. like can he use edens power? he came into contact with her but he never knew she had a power.

edit: just realised he used claires power when he didnt know she had one. oh and claudes.

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And he used Parkman's power the first time they met, when he was interrogating Peter, without knowing he had one.

In the latest comic Peter just has to be near em... The comic is based in the future and he is fighting with a super fast running dude and he says something like this:

Peter: I've been looking for a fight

Super Fast Dude (SFD) : Yeah well you'll have to catch me first

Peter: Well thanks for showing me how too run fast too

Next cell they are off in a run

In the same comic there is a dude throwing lightning around, peter goes "Lightning that will be handy, while his hands are all lit up with the stuff" was an instant take up and use.

So in the future, Peter just needs to be close enough to sense the "feel" of the ability and can instantly use it with full control and at will.

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs12/f/2006/331/9/0/Head_Trip___Save_the_Emo_by_shinga.jpg

in an email i was sent today....

i laughed..

Well I hear ep 22 is super cool :D

Spoiler:
Linderman is dead and Mrs Petrelli can walk again. Hiro becomes 'kensai with sword' thanks to his dad and Syler needs to die... he killed ted and is ready to go BOOM!!!! They used Mika to rig the elections and Nathan won *duh*

22 is a great ep show is movign so quickly cant want for finale

sweet. cant wait for finale. so is the finale 2 hrs long or what?

Yep 23 is double length.

Poor ted... he got pwnt :(

sweet. i would have been sad if it was only 1 hr long.

ted should gone freaken nuclear.


aslo heroes spin-off: Heroes: Origins

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Phwoar, Mr Sulu is a ninja!

ted should gone freaken nuclear.

I was just saying this while watching... how could sylar ever kill Ted, or Hiro for that matter unless they were incapacitated/unconcious. All Ted would have to do as soon as his head started to get cut would be let of a nice hefty dose of radiation and sylar would be toast!

Ted was still definately concious and aware hanging upsidedown in the truck, I though that part was a little lame.

maybe he was too flustered by sylar's pimpin outfit

f***ing awesome ep although I'm a little disappointed they killed off three characters, especially Linderman. And the way Sylar killed off Ted was too easy especially after seeing Ted take out a bunch of SWAT guys in one of those comics. They sprayed him with some type of foam that sets hard and he could still use his power and fried them all even though he couldn't move.

Oh well. The ending still kicked alot of ass. Next weeks ep is gonna rock extremely f***ing hard.

8-)

Guys, ever heard of the spoiler tags? f***ing use them!

Dude, we talk about the eps every Tuesday in this thread. Don't read it if you haven't watched it yet.

mr bennet had the best line

Thompson: "What am I thinking now Parkman?"
Bennet: "Your last thought." *Bang*...*Bang*

DL should do what he did to linderman more often.

Hah, yeah, Bennet brought the pwnage to Eric Roberts, that was a cool scene. So brutal too, like one shot to the head isn't enough, gotta go for the second one.

Although Suresh is starting to piss me off, how naieve can he possibly be?

Yep 23 is double length.

no its not...you just watched the first half of the season finale, and the last hour is ep 23

hehe, i was pissing myself laughing at the bennett execution scene, so funny. and yeah, mr sulu being a ninja rocks

So if Peter comes into close contact with Syler does he take on all the abilities that Syler has? I was reading over at http://www.tv.com that they are doing 6 back story eps over the US summer that will introduce 12 new "heros" and people are going to vote 6 of the characters into the next season. Season 2 will start back in the US Fall. They are going to need some new blood, Syler been chopping heads pretty fast over last few eps. Ted should have gone nuke on his ass.

So if Peter comes into close contact with Syler does he take on all the abilities that Syler has?

but how does he know what they are?!?! it's endless...


yeah i just watched it then.. had to wait till i got it from the guy at work.

can't wait till next week now..

i too thought that the ted/sylar scene was a tad .. i dunno.. lame.. but anyway.. i spose they had to do something along those lines so sylar could "blow up"

also when the guys were in the car, i almost half expected sylar to jump out at them from the shadows... or jump out on ando and hiro in the painters shop..

also it's about time hiro stopped skulking!


mmmm doctor who this saturday!.. huzzah...... -_-

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no its not...you just watched the first half of the season finale, and the last hour is ep 23

I actually read the runtime for 23 was 2 hours on tv.com the other week (it has since changed I see) but now after googling around it doesn't seem certain what the go is.

http://www.tvshowboards.com/heroes/view.php?trd=070428032200

and again here

http://www.clivebanks.co.uk/Heroes%20Timeline.htm <- however that doesn't even look remotely reliable.

It would make sense if you think in terms of 24 episodes a season like the show 24 has. Probably gonna get jipped an ep though.

mmmm doctor who this saturday!.. huzzah

Finally get to see this mysterious Mr Saxon in action! He better be the Master, or I'll be disappointed.

lol at Ando thinking he can stop Sylar by himself. what a douche

just got my first high def episode, looks f***ing sweet on my nice tv :) and i enjoyed it quite a large amount

So if Peter comes into close contact with Syler does he take on all the abilities that Syler has?

I would think that Peter could now chop peoples heads up to take their abilities, but he doesn't really need to do that.

Peter can already use Sylar's powers - Peter used telekinesis to pull something (a wardrobe?) in to hit Sylar...just before he 'died' from the glass wedged in his brain.

I have to say, this show is beginning to rival 24 in the 'grim reaper' stakes.

Peter should totally cut sylars head open just to be ironic. I honestly don't see how it should be so hard to kill him.

He has Hiro's time stop/travel power... stop time + cut off Sylar's head = Peter wins!


I agree it would be a fairly pussified way to end the show, but its so obvious!

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peter needs to start experimenting and learn how to use his powers more effectively. he should use sylars original power to speed up the process.

Are Peter and Sylar immune to their own radiation as it appears that Ted was? If so then why would Sylar need Claire's power? As far as I know if you cut off Claire's head she is a dead as Ted. I want to see Claire cut off a limb and grow it back....that would be cool.

I get the impression she doesn't regrow, so much as she repairs. So if you cut off her arm, she'd only be able to reattach the severed arm. Not grow a new one.

Which means that she could have her head cut open, and remain dead until someone put her back together. In this way, it would be possible for Sylar to steal Claire's ability without her completely dying - since Sylar's 'gift' is just simply being able to see how things work. That's how it all started.

Are Peter and Sylar immune to their own radiation as it appears that Ted was? If so then why would Sylar need Claire's power?

Immune to self-radiation but not to exploding into a billion bits.

In this way, it would be possible for Sylar to steal Claire's ability without her completely dying

You're over-analysing ...

Immune to self-radiation but not to exploding into a billion bits.

they dont explode into a billion bits. in the future episode peter was the bomb and he was still alive.

in the future episode peter was the bomb and he was still alive.

Ok, so replace "billion bits" with something else that is survivable with Claire's power.

Jeez ...