Hey guys, a mate has a job going as below:

Windows 2003 Network Engineer

· Package negotiable based upon experience
· Rapidly growing company!
· Great atmosphere, dedicated team
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R & G Technologies is a highly skilled 6 man Business IT Support company operating out of West End. Our ethos is to become the 'Benchmark in Australian IT' and we are constantly pioneering new ways to deliver IT support to Brisbane based businesses.

Since beginning in 2003 our company has experienced 100% year on year growth with an impressive portfolio of clients ranging from small businesses right through to publicly listed companies.

The successful candidate will receive an attractive renumeration package plus sizeable bonuses based on team performance.

Duties & Responsibilities:

* installing, maintaining & managing a variety of windows 2003 server & domain environments
* onsite & off-site system support for our customers
* troubleshooting IT issues independently
* supporting LAN & WAN environments
* providing technical knowledge & advice where required

Candidate must be client focused and have excellent communication skills.

Minimum of 3 years commercial experience in a similar role required, as well as a clearly demonstrated background expertise in Windows server-based networking and support.

As we want only the best, you should also expect to be tested on a win2k3 server to troubleshoot at the interview to gauge expertise.

Gordon Tan 3018 0280

Only the best and testing of my skill? Ah drats..

A friend might be interested, i have forwarded it on :)

salary?

As we want only the best, you should also expect to be tested on a win2k3 server to troubleshoot at the interview to gauge expertise.

it's broken, format. I win, hire me :)

Can you use Google in the interview?

· Package negotiable based upon experience

Uhhh right. So what's the salary then?

How fast is the company's internet connection?
I don't work for less then 2 megabits

just call him and enquire you lazy sods!

base 40-50k + performance bonuses dependant on experience, with room to grow.

Not having a go at you Tung at all - but I cant understand why employers want a specalised sys admin with 3yrs+ of commercial experience and still ask < $50k/yr.

It hints at bonuses I guess which is just an enticer to say "You can earn more money, but in reality you will end up working 7 days a week, insane hours per day to achieve a small bonus so don't expect anything significant"

Is it just because the IT industry is innundated with job seekers and not enough jobs, therefore employers can get away with hiring staff far below what their worth?

Seems a bit odd, as in 6 months or 12 months that employee will realise there's more money out there if they don't jump at the first job offer and sure enough they'll resign pretty quickly and move on..

Well the average(median) full time wage in Aus atm is $54k, so you're not gonna get the best for less than that.

Maybe its just because Windows administration is so easy

No way, its hard as piss - all those device driver bugs, blue screens, easy to f*** up permission system, etc.

Linux in comparision is much easier to admin, install, configure, leave it until the hardware fails :)

im just the messenger, if you are interested, call up, see if they give a higher wage, etc etc etc

this is just the initial employment ad, so if you are interested just call!

Was merely opening the topic up for debate - not having a shot at anyone.

yeah i understand that. basically that was the base salary he gave me

part of the reason to ask for someone with a few years experience is so they dont get every kid and his dog that has played around with windows applying. by cutting out as much of the crap you are left with hopefully a few people that are good enough for the job that you can choose from

TicMan, it's a 6man business, not the big boys :)

Still they are only asking for 3 years experience.

I have no experience and making 40G

BTW what a good messenger program for the network which is not MSN?

No way, its hard as piss - all those device driver bugs, blue screens, easy to f*** up permission system, etc.

Linux in comparision is much easier to admin, install, configure, leave it until the hardware fails :)

haha you so noob :)

BTW what a good messenger program for the network which is not MSN?

How about net send * fugorf kthx :)

I don't work for less then 2 megabits

can you get the net that slow? i thought 16meagabit was standard?

thats a pretty accurate entry level salary for the type of work they are after (esp. with only 3 years exp) - i don't know wtf you lot are on about they dont even care about a qualification

last edited by d[o_0]b at 09:13:24 09/Nov/06

base 40-50k + performance bonuses dependant on experience, with room to grow.

That's pretty much 'clued on graduate' level pay. Well, at least every clued on graduate I know gets at least the high range of that. f***, even the not so clued on graduates are earning that.

part of the reason to ask for someone with a few years experience is so they dont get every kid and his dog that has played around with windows applying. by cutting out as much of the crap you are left with hopefully a few people that are good enough for the job that you can choose from

That might be the theory, but this is what you're probably going to get.

1: Useless graduates (TAFE or Uni)
2: Morons who suck.
3: Junior Sysadmins
4: A senior admin who looking for short time to cover the bills while they find another, better job.

If you want to get experienced admins that are going to last, you need to pay a realistic price. According to MyCareer.com (I don't know how valid it is), they have the average price for a Sysadmin is $72,693. So, I'd guess someone with 3 years experience would be looking for 60k

is that the qld salary typo? because ive gone through salary indices, and qld wage for a sysadmin such as what these people are requiring (someone to do more support than infrastructure, with a few other things thrown in) is nowhere near that.

is that the qld salary typo? because ive gone through salary indices, and qld wage for a sysadmin such as what these people are requiring (someone to do more support than infrastructure, with a few other things thrown in) is nowhere near that.

Maybe not, but we are not 10-20k lower than NSW or VIC. Maybe 5-10k lower.

Actually, looking at the Hayes Queensland index, we are exactly 10k less on average. Even then, my price of 60k+ was a really low point, say in Brisbane 55k for anybody with experience.

s***, I got 56k as a straight out grad.

I know a few sys admins in Brisbane who on or above that average but the majority I know fall $5-8k below that.

These are guys with 3yr+ experience in larger environments though (hundreds of servers, not back yard offices with 1).

ticman is just jealous cos webcentral wouldnt suck his dick anymore and then he got aids and died

ps 40-50k for a small operation doing SME work is about normal. Thats the difference between working in a small computer support company and working for a corporate.

No way, its hard as piss

Nah its really easy

Hard