Got a question

Received a Belkin Wireless G Router with my Dell computer. Now my boss wants to added to the existing network so we can have wireless network coverage in the boardroom.


Can this be done? what network settings do i need to change on the router? As i dont want it to do any router function except plug it into our network and give out Wireless coverage.

Thanks

well the whole idea of a router is to bridge 2 networks, i think if you just ran a patch cable from a switch into a LAN (not WAN) port on your router it should just.... work? of course you will have to change the DHCP settings on your router to reflect your own subnets etc. which is very easy to do. PM me if you want more help.

That's not the whole idea of a router.

the whole idea of blahnana's router is to create a bridge between him and a goat

well it actually monkey....

Its easy

All you need to do is disable DHCP in the router, then plug the port you want to broadcast into one of the lan ports, not the wan port

well the whole idea of a router is to bridge 2 networks,

Is this a deliberate bad choice of words? Bridge != router... I have a terrible time trying to explain the concept of a bridge to people :(

yeah bad wording, without getting technical thats what it does tho

routers and bridges are similar... except commonly a bridge only knows of 2 endpoints of the network that its bridging. a router will accept connections from any network location and route it to where its needed or stop it from where its not meant to be.

to use a wireless router as a simple access point.. as jmr said.. disable any dhcp service it has and plug a network cable into your LAN ports.. not the WAN port as that will confuse the router if it detects an internal network address connecting to an "external" interface, which most firewalls will think is a spoofed attack. make sure you secure the wireless with something decent like WPA2.. WEP takes a couple minutes to crack.

Thanks
Got it to connect using wired but wireless yet...

routers and bridges are similar

a bridge is more commonly known as a switch, they are not simular to routers.

a router facilitates transfering packets across networks, for example from the internet to your LAN. when it transfers the packet it changes it's layer2 header.

a bridge/switch is basically just a repeater. initially a switch will repeat anything that comes in 1 port out the rest of it's ports. As it learns which machines are on which ports it then only repeats the packets out the port the destination machine is in. it makes no change to the packet.

I strongly doubt it

A bridge
http://ecycletours.com/images/Images02/DordogneSlides/Belcastle bridge R and Y.jpg
A Router
http://www.davehylands.com/Wood-Working/Dado-Jig/Small/04-Router.jpg

I plugged the WAN port of my dlink router into the LAN port of my linksys router. linksys did the ethernet, dlink was ripping up the wireless scene.

/================\

|  TEH INTARWEBS |

\================/

      |

     modem

        |(WAN)

       linksys

          /\

         /  \

(cat5) PC    \

 LAN      (cat5) Dlink --- laptop (wifi)

            WAN  

worked just fine.

\/\/ oh yea mr ccna? well I have a switching router briding my hubs

last edited by whoop at 19:50:12 25/Oct/06

a bridge is more commonly known as a switch, they are not simular to routers.

a router facilitates transfering packets across networks, for example from the internet to your LAN. when it transfers the packet it changes it's layer2 header.

a bridge/switch is basically just a repeater. initially a switch will repeat anything that comes in 1 port out the rest of it's ports. As it learns which machines are on which ports it then only repeats the packets out the port the destination machine is in. it makes no change to the packet.

Wow my ccna was so not worth it....

Here begins the lesson.....

A HUB is a network device that takes packets in one port and repeats blindly out all the other ports. a switch is selective in its delivery of packets via layer2 networking using MAC addresses to route packets within the switch so that wire sniffers cannot work to their full extent (granted there are ways to do sniffing on a switch).

A Bridge is as its normal physical entity describes.. it links two endpoints together.. a VPN is a form of Bridge, usually a bridge will be used to link two physical locations to be in the same network, ie a wireless bridge to a demountable shack so you don't need to deploy a wired solution.

You are correct in a sense.. a bridge does the same job as a switch.. but its not inverse.. switches arn't neccessarily a bridge (cheap network places will say that a switch is bridging).

Here endeth the lesson...

I don't see a lesson in there, I demand a refund

hehe Obes wins!

haha i cant do it, i bring myself to answer a work type question

a VPN is a form of Bridge

err. no

a bridge works like a 2 port switch. it's purpose filtering the packets out that are not relevent based on the mac address tables for each of the ports.

google is your friend.

last edited by ara at 03:47:31 26/Oct/06

Shutup and answer the question f*****s, enough I KNOW MORE ABOUT ROOTERS THAN YOU

To settle the arguement, here is what Wikipedia says;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge

A bridge is a structure built to span a gorge, valley, road, railroad track, river, body of water, or any other physical obstacle. Designs may be built higher than otherwise needed in order to allow other traffic (particularly ship traffic) beneath.

The purpose of a bridge is to allow people or cargo easy passage over an obstacle by providing a route that would otherwise be uneven or impossible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_hub

An Ethernet hub or concentrator is a device for connecting multiple twisted pair or fibre optic Ethernet devices together, making them act as a single segment. It works at the physical layer of the OSI model, repeating the signal received at one port out each of the other ports (but not the original one). The device is thus a form of multiport repeater. Ethernet hubs are also responsible for forwarding a jam signal to all ports if it detects a collision.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switch

A switch is a device for changing the course (or flow) of a circuit. The prototypical model is a mechanical device (for example a railroad switch) which can be disconnected from one course and connected to another. The term "switch" typically refers to electrical power or electronic telecommunication circuits. In applications where multiple switching options are required (e.g., a telephone service), mechanical switches have long been replaced by electronic variants which can be intelligently controlled and automated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Router

A router (IPA pronunciation: [raʊtɚ] or [rutə(ɚ)]) is a computer networking device that forwards data packets across a network toward their destinations, through a process known as routing. Routing occurs at Layer 3 (the network layer i.e. Internet Protocol (IP)) of the OSI seven-layer protocol stack.

Hub's have jam, so I'm going to get some toast.

To settle the arguement, here is what Wikipedia says;

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAA.

I was doing some reading for an article I'm writing at the moment, which as a result in my journeys I came across the Wikipedia pages for 'int' and 'long' (as in the data types). The inconsistencies and inaccuracies are incredible.


As for bridges, your *typical* use of a bridge is to allow the conversion from one Layer 1 medium to another. That doesn't mean it HAS to change the layer 1 medium, as ara has pointed out... but that's what you'll usually see it used for. For instance, going from ST to Ethernet, 802.11g to Ethernet, 802.3ae to ST etc... in the case of a switch, you're typically going from 802.3a/802.3i/802.3u to 802.3a/802.3i/802.3u.

f***ing nerds