|
![]() |
|
| Author |
|
|||||||
|
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 18616
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
There are rumours going around that the 2010 World Cup might be relocated to Australia due to problems in Africa such as "high levels of violent crime, inadequate public transport, widespread AIDS infection and a general lack of readiness".
FIFA appear to be denying it so far but it'll be interesting to see what happens. After seeing first hand in Germany the sort of infrastructure and organisation they had to make it all happen I can totally believe that smaller nations would struggle getting it all sorted out. |
|||||||
| #0 07:09am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
system
|
--
|
|||||||
| #0 |
|
|||||||
|
Spook
Posts: 16352
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
we could cope and it would be awesome
|
|||||||
| #1 07:12am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
peacekeeper
Posts: 2623
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
If we can host the Olympics why couldnt we run a few soccer games
|
|||||||
| #2 07:51am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Captain America
Posts: 1035
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
|
that would be so kick ass although i was looking forward to having a good reason now to go to africa :(
|
|||||||
| #3 08:15am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
scooby
Posts: 3084
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
how many stadiums do you need to run a world cup? we'd have enough wouldnt we?
|
|||||||
| #4 08:28am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 18621
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
Well Germany had 12 stadiums in 12 cities - not all of them were massive, some of them were only 40,000-50,000 capacity. We'd presumably have to double up quite a bit (ie, have more games in each city).
|
|||||||
| #5 08:37am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
casa
Simes
Posts: 1819
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
how many stadiums do you need to run a world cup? My cousin (who is a pretty big football fan) was telling me the country requires 10 stadiums which can fit, I *think* he said 40k+ people. we'd have enough wouldnt we? Unfortunately, we have 8. However, it would be pretty simple to get a couple more knocked up by then. edit: Going off Austadium stats VIC = MCG = 100,000 NSW = Telstra Stadium = 83,500 VIC = Telstra Dom = 56,350 QLD = Suncorp Stadium = 52,500 SA = AAMI stadium = 51,000 but would really suck as the field would be miles away NSW = SCG = 44,000 WA = Subiaco = 42,900 NSW = Aussie Stadium = 42,000 QLD = Gabba = 42,000 (Thats 9, but I doubt you'd count AAMI stadium) Like it was mentioned above, Germany had 12 stadiums in 12 different cities. We have 8 or 9 in 3. last edited by casa at 08:55:50 06/Jul/06 |
|||||||
| #6 08:55am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Captain America
Posts: 1037
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
|
well SA was required to have 13 stadiums and thats been reduced to 10 now ... so we could definitely handle a number like that, dont forget the gold coast is gettnig their stadium too which i assume would be up by then (titans stadium? cant remember finish date for that) |
|||||||
| #7 08:51am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
mongie
Posts: 3797
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
Why wouldn't ANZ stadium be on that list?
I think your statistics are a bit old, cause the gabba holds way more than 42,000 now. |
|||||||
| #8 09:08am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Chakas
Posts: 1221
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
the gabba holds way more than 42,000 now I don't think it does (but I could be wrong). |
|||||||
| #9 09:14am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
casa
Simes
Posts: 1820
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
mongie, I think the record stands at 47,000 I dont htink its much more than that. ANZ stadium holds more than the gabba yes, but its in a worse state than aami stadium. |
|||||||
| #10 09:19am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 18622
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
Don't forget Cararra!
|
|||||||
| #11 09:23am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Opec
Posts: 4161
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
I'm surprised why Australia didn't put in the bid for to host the world cup. Or did we bid but, didn't win?
We should bid for the 2014 worldcup |
|||||||
| #12 09:28am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
casa
Simes
Posts: 1821
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
I thought the whole thing was australia was bidding for the 2018 worldcup, cos we dont have the stadiums and we couldnt have them approved/built by 2014. Let alone 2010. |
|||||||
| #13 09:41am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
peacekeeper
Posts: 2624
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
Maybe we could share it with NZ (haha)
do they even have more than 1 stadium :P |
|||||||
| #14 09:46am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Captain America
Posts: 1038
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
|
Don't forget Cararra!yeah that too, and the titans NRL stadium thats getting built at robina >_< clicky comletion time 2008 season |
|||||||
| #15 09:49am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Obes
Posts: 4393
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
WACCA ?
Time for Canberra to get a real stadium imo! Or we could co-host with NZ ... they could have a single group. |
|||||||
| #16 10:14am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 18626
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
Or we could co-host with NZ ... they could have a single group.Yeh I thought about that but don't the host countries get an auto-berth into the comp? Who wants NZ there?!@# |
|||||||
| #17 10:16am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Chakas
Posts: 1222
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
I thought the whole thing was australia was bidding for the 2018 worldcup, cos we dont have the stadiums and we couldnt have them approved/built by 2014. Let alone 2010. I think FIFA knows which regions it wants to hold world cups in on a rotation basis (first heard about this was during or after Japan/Korea). 2002 - Asia 2006 - Europe 2010 - Africa 2014 - South America I think? 2018 - Maybe the soonest we can get it as part of Oceania or Asia? |
|||||||
| #18 10:18am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Jabroney
Posts: 377
Location: Queensland
|
who wants south africa in there??
if they can't qualify in the African Cup then they must be pretty s*** |
|||||||
| #19 10:21am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Tung
Posts: 4049
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
south africa has the best infrastructure out of all the african nations :)
|
|||||||
| #20 10:25am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
casa
Simes
Posts: 1822
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
Cararra currently holds 18,000, the new one will hold 25,000 WACA capacity = 20,000 Not really World Cup sort of quantities yarno. P.S: I'm getting all my information from here last edited by casa at 10:29:24 06/Jul/06 |
|||||||
| #21 10:29am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Booyah
Posts: 6008
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
As long as the world cup gets held in the park down the road from me in mansfield then yes i accept.
|
|||||||
| #22 10:28am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 18628
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
Yeh, I wasn't being serious. What will the capacity of the new Gold Coast stadium be? I didn't know they were putting one in there until I read this.
|
|||||||
| #23 10:28am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Tung
Posts: 4050
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
its for the new league team isnt it?
|
|||||||
| #24 10:29am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
casa
Simes
Posts: 1823
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
Cararra |
|||||||
| #25 10:30am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 18629
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
Oh right!
|
|||||||
| #26 10:31am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Chakas
Posts: 1223
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
From Wikipedia
After the 1958 FIFA World Cup, to avoid any future boycotts or controversy, FIFA began a pattern of alternation between the Americas and Europe, which continued until the 1998 FIFA World Cup. The 2002 FIFA World Cup (hosted jointly by Japan and Korea) was the first one held in Asia, and in 2010, South Africa will become the first African nation to host the World Cup. |
|||||||
| #27 10:31am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Posts: 2962
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
meh i have lost interest in the world cup after this years cup..Italy shouldnt have made it, france should have been knocked out, englads roony should be shot in the face, etc...etc.. /crapiest world cup ever.
|
|||||||
| #28 10:41am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Astroboy
Posts: 3481
Location: Germany
|
This idea is f***ing stupid....
Most countries in the world cup are from Europe. Australia far from europe |
|||||||
| #29 11:05am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 18630
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
This idea is f***ing stupid....Not a lot further than Japan/South Korea. |
|||||||
| #30 11:08am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Astroboy
Posts: 3483
Location: Germany
|
2 countries as aposed to how many?
|
|||||||
| #31 11:12am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
StreX
Posts: 5150
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
south africa sux0rs
i want to be at the next world cup, but i dont want to ever have to travel to stinky africa :( in summary, take the event off the monkey f***ers and give it to a proper nation. |
|||||||
| #32 11:24am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Chakas
Posts: 1225
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
Europe may have more countries playing in the world cup, but up until this final South America will have more titles (9 vs 8 - about to become 9 vs 9) so it isn't all about Europe.
|
|||||||
| #33 11:24am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 18632
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
2 countries as aposed to how many?Huh? I meant the last WC was in Japan/South Korea, and everyone seemed to have an aight time there. If neither had happened it would still have gone to overtime and then to a penalty shoot-out which could of gone either way.This reminds me of the time Italy cheated and got into the World Cup final.... man, Australia totally would have won the cup if it wasn't for them and the stupid ref. |
|||||||
| #34 11:44am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
casa
Simes
Posts: 1825
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
Trog, I think you're a cainer, I deleted my post because I knew you'd have a teary over it... stop being such a god-damned douche. Thats just like saying, "Australia would have beaten Japan 4-1 if it wasnt for the ref blowing full-time". You just... DONT KNOW what would have happened. Stop being so damn naive. |
|||||||
| #35 11:54am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Captain America
Posts: 1041
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
|
come on casa, admit it ... italy are a bunch of wankers |
|||||||
| #36 11:56am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Captain America
Posts: 1042
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
|
just for some consolation to the italians though, they did get a bad ruling in the 2002 world cup when they played against south korea so ... yeah
|
|||||||
| #37 11:56am 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
casa
Simes
Posts: 1826
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
Why would I call myself a wanker? I always admitted Italy took a dive, and the ref made a bad decision, but its part of the game. If the shoe was on the other foot, harry kewell would of done the same thing. To say Australia would have won, is just retarded talk, speculation and hyperthetical. It's far from fact. Not to mention the fact that, if it wasn't for the italians in the australian team, australia wouldnt have even gone to the world cup in the first place. |
|||||||
| #38 12:00pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Captain America
Posts: 1044
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
|
yeah i know that .. i mean if thiery henry didnt get fowled/theatrical dive last night france might have not gone through against portugal but that still doesnt mean the portugese wouldnt be pissed off at the french for that, its just hate nothing wrong with that |
|||||||
| #39 12:03pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 18634
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
casa has gone from master baiter, to baitee extraordinaire
|
|||||||
| #40 12:05pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
casa
Simes
Posts: 1827
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
Bloody saint and boba knows better than to share information from the seceret channel :( |
|||||||
| #41 12:07pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Spook
Posts: 16354
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
yer, this was the fix for them (sus reffing this tournament)
they were owed! |
|||||||
| #42 12:27pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Seven
Posts: 794
Location: Central Coast, New South Wales
|
http://newtwg.sbs.com.au/home/index.php?pid=st&cid=72990
European nations argue the finals should return to that continent every three tournaments, with South Africa and the Americas to be hosts in 2010 and 2014. |
|||||||
| #43 12:30pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
eP
Posts: 1942
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
I can totally believe that smaller nations would struggle getting it all sorted out.my history is a little sketchy but Germany managed OK =D |
|||||||
| #44 12:54pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
step
Posts: 1175
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
my history is a little sketchy but Germany managed OK =D Germany isn't small... |
|||||||
| #45 02:54pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
TicMan
Posts: 854
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
If Australia does get the world cup it just means we'll have to endure the Soceroo's bandwagon yet again. I'm still amazed at how many people turned into fanatic Soccer fans over night.
|
|||||||
| #46 02:58pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Chakas
Posts: 1227
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
If the bandwagon comes round enough then in might actually become a permanent fixture in our sporting culture. |
|||||||
| #47 03:03pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Lunch
Posts: 705
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
endure the socceroos bandwagon?
Yeah its terrible when a country gets behind a national sporting team. I'm sure the socceroos would have prefered to be viewed by a smaller audience and recieve less recognition than they otherwise would have just so people can feel special being a minority who follow football. I thought it was great being able to rock into work every morning, discuss the games shown the night before and have people actually aware of it being on. |
|||||||
| #48 03:06pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
TicMan
Posts: 855
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
Yes - endured.
|
|||||||
| #49 03:15pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Chakas
Posts: 1228
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
If it's so tough to endure then why bother even looking at this thread let alone posting in it?
|
|||||||
| #50 03:36pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Captain America
Posts: 1045
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
|
i think its you riding that supid bandwagon of thinking there is a soceroos bandwagon ... as far as i can tell this is the first time they have gotten in the world cup since 32 years so why not celebrate? besides as if you wouldnt follow the world cup or major football league competitions anyway? |
|||||||
| #51 03:42pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
casa
Simes
Posts: 1828
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
I've always gone for italy. If they werent in the world cup i'd be the first person to start going for australia, this is where I was born and bread. I don't watch AFL nor do I really like it, but it still pisses me off when the lions lose, and it still makes me happy when the lions win. It's a patriotic thing. |
|||||||
| #52 04:09pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
]SUPERBOSS[
Posts: 882
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
|
Because New one at robina stadium its will be 25,000 will be complete in 2008, its across to Robina Stations
|
|||||||
| #53 04:19pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
eK
Posts: 9860
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
Surely 25,000 wouldn't be anywhere near big enough though?
|
|||||||
| #54 04:41pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
casa
Simes
Posts: 1829
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
It wont be. Like I said, I'm sure it was 40k. |
|||||||
| #55 04:48pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Fireman Sam
Posts: 19
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
Im pretty sure you need 6 stadiums above 40 k that are football pitch shaped ie suncorp stadium and another 2 that are above 60k that don't need to be football pitch shaped. As far as I can tell they all need to be in separate towns too.
I don't think we have the population base to make use of stadia that size in many of the smaller cities and towns they would need to be built in, so to have it here would seem a waste of money. I'd rather see the money on trying to get the a-league to being the premier competition in asia and/or developing better australian players. Plus its always more fun being an away fan than it is a home fan. |
|||||||
| #56 05:06pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
typo
Posts: 4994
Location: Other International
|
If you include NZ (which is close enough really), you'd only need 1 new or increased capacity stadium.
Melbourne Cricket Ground 100,000 Telstra Stadium 83,500 Telstra Dome 56,347 Suncorp Stadium 52,500 AAMI Stadium 51,515 Queensland Sport and Athletic Centre 48,400 Sydney Cricket Ground 44,000 Subiaco Oval 42,922 Aussie Stadium 42,000 Gabba 42,000 Eden Park (NZ)45,472 |
|||||||
| #57 05:24pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Fireman Sam
Posts: 20
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
thats hardly one stadium per city :P
we can't share with nz because they are in a difference confederation don't forget the world cup would have to be now and all those stadia be used purely for the world cup so all the other sports that use those grounds during june/july would have to go on hold last edited by Fireman Sam at 19:43:00 06/Jul/06 |
|||||||
| #58 07:43pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
ctd
Posts: 4673
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
A new stadium in melbourne is being built for the storm league team which is due in 2009. Rectangle shaped
afl grounds sux for watching anything other then afl and cricket. |
|||||||
| #59 08:06pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
spidz
Posts: 9704
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
Not to mention the fact that, if it wasn't for the italians in the australian teamWasn't the Italian striker for the 1994, 1998 and 2002 World Cups Australian born and bred? oh thats right, he was. I think he might be the leading goal scorer in italy's history too? |
|||||||
| #60 08:10pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
nF
Posts: 12434
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
|
This idea is f***ing stupid.... |
|||||||
| #61 09:59pm 06/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
Astroboy
Posts: 3484
Location: Germany
|
they have these things called aeroplanes now, you can fly around the world in less than 24 hours Look up the price difference, $1500+>$150 ok ok, if it actually happens, ill eat my hat |
|||||||
| #62 04:01am 07/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
casa
Simes
Posts: 1830
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
|
Wasn't the Italian striker for the 1994, 1998 and 2002 World Cups Australian born and bred? Ease up tiger. Since you have no idea what you're talking about, I will assume you're referring to Christian Vieri. He was NOT born in Australia, only spent his primary schooling here, and never once played football for Australia. He was also not the leading goal scorer in 1994, that was Baggio. L2Fire up. |
|||||||
| #63 09:02am 07/07/06 |
|
|||||||
|
system
|
--
|
|||||||
| #63 |
|
|||||||
|
| ||||||||