Just thought I'd see how many people also get annoyed by silly little basic spelling/grammar errors that were taught in primary school. What I mean is things like this (as an example) -

would/should/could OF instead of HAVE or 've.
their/there/they're
were/where/we're

It's not really a shortcut to use these things, because it can entirely change the meaning of what's being written. Do people use them because they just weren't taught properly? Don't understand them?

Please discuss.

cuz they don't know engrissshhh

s***s me to tears. Unfortunately computers make it easier for people to get away with being retarded. So many people on this forum don't know how to spell properly!! ARGH!#!#!#

this thread is loose

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this threads a're gay

For an Arab, my spelling and grammar is perfect.

I hate it when people can't speel.

I agree with you're comments. I find it strange that people think their so good that they can just ditch they're spelling and grammer, when they could of been putting in some more effort like wear.

anyways, Im off to by a duel-core athalon and some artic silver.

I dont give a s*** to be honest, so long as I can make out what they are trying to say I am happy

your/you're is the one which annoys me most.

I've failed peoples uni assignments for that one.

your/you're is the one which annoys me most.

I've failed peoples uni assignments for that one.

wow you really suck.

Me fail english, that's unpossible.

all your base are belong to us

i hate it when you correct someone's spelling and you make a typo at the same time, gives me the s***s.

s***s me to tears. Unfortunately computers make it easier for people to get away with being retarded. So many people on this forum don't know how to spell properly!! ARGH!#!#!#

It s***s me to tears. Unfortunately, computers make it easier for people to get away with being retarded. So many people on this forum don't know how to spell properly! Argh!

Punctuation is your friend, you shouldn't abuse it so.

wow you really suck.

Oh come on, they are at University for f***s sakes.

For an Arab, my spelling and grammar is perfect.

Most Arabs blow themselves up before they get a chance to master any languages.

no one who plays cs knows the difference between his and he's

eg: his an idiot

only when f***ing f***s constantly use 'ure' instead of 'your' ITS ONE f***ING LETTER YOU f***S

i hate all those emo f***s that say 'yesh'

I think I draw the line at typing "dis" and "dat" and all dat homie s***

christ I haven't heard yesh being used.

Thank f***, I don't have any EMO friends (aside from whoop)

Incorrect:

your/you're is the one which annoys me most.

I've failed peoples uni assignments for that one.

Correct:
Your/you're is the one that annoys me the most.
I've failed people's uni assignments for that one.


You have failed.

iv i thinki its safe to say that both can be used

also i dont think anyone has mastered a language ...ever.

Vegetable is technically correct (the best kind of correct)

"which" would imply that whatever "one" (spelling mistake) it is, is already known or could be worked out from the context

"that" is correct cause it supplies the information

that said if you're in the internets and you use spelling/grammar to discredit someone's intelligence in a discussion then you are probably an ass

Dont give a flying f*** about it. I agree with hashy though, hate all those n***** c***s using 'dis and 'dat'.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7369/suckatenglish6kp.jpg
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Know, dont anoy me @ all. Cuz Im smart n I dont spell stuff rongz. U R ALL GAY

Yaeh, Bad slilpeng ralely gtes on my nreevs. Hnag on a memnot, no it dson't. The hamun biarn is a vrey peuorfwl bilooicgal ogran taht can qitue esaliy rpeair bokren wdros and gemamrr in sncteanes. Finlaig a bohiciemcal isuse, I tinhk it is the radrees pesnoral isuses taht mkae tehm not isnatntly rpaeir a wrod and get oevr it and crary on. The maineng of a borekn msesgae can uslaluy be rpeiraed form the cnotxet taht that mseasge is in.


For most of you the above paragraph can easily be read. If your having trouble go back to the start of the paragraph and just read it as quick as you can ignor the errors and your noggin should fix it on the fly.
As long as the first and last letter are the same and the in between letters are mixed and not changed with other random letters it should still be easily read.

Bad spellig? get over it. :p

i'm guessing that's about the millionth time that stupid paragraph thing has been posted and it's bulls***. it works for simple words but not long ones.

the thing i hate is retards who put change spellings to make it "easier" to type. ur = you're or m8 = mate etc. that's such a retarded thing to do, pressing 2 extra keys really isn't that difficult and it saves you from looking like a homo.

ps. capitalisation and punctuation aren't too much of a problem on forums and whatnot. it would be really sad if you were that anal.

edit: uh oh a spelling error in a rant about spelling :(

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the thing i hate is retards who put change spellings to make it "easier" to type. ur = you're or m8 = mate etc. that's such a retarded thing to do, pressing 2 extra keys really isn't that difficult and it saves you from looking like a homo.

I think more accuratly it works for words your brain has had plenty of experiance reading.

Why does using abbreviations such as m8 or ur annoy you so much? Do you have trouble understanding the meaning of the message, I wouldn't think so. Isn't the whole point of language to communicate? To get one message across to another and have that original meaning remain intact or as close to it as possible? Does using the word 'mate' mean anything differnt to 'm8'? Yes it does, a subtle differance, perhaps the inflection?
Why does it annoy you so much?

Whenever I read a message from someone and they use 'm8' or 'ur' or whatever I can't shake the notion that I am reading something written by some 15 year old brendan or 16 year old flower slut and therefore can't take the message seriously.

edit: I don't mean sms'



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hoe noes some one dodent thipe popoerly 4 joo ?

as if you should give a s*** unless its leet speak or mobile talk

While this English lesson is still under way, here are some additional things people may find enlightening:

1) There is no such word as "alot". It is in fact two words, "a" and "lot".

2) You cannot have an "amount" of people. When referring to people, or indeed anything that is not divisable, you use "number".

3) Cars have "brakes", not "breaks". They also have "bumpers", not "bumbers".

Couldn't give a flying f***

edit: having said that, words like "gud" instead of "good" do give me the s***s :)

last edited by Frag at 21:37:03 28/May/06

Insert [deliberate spelling mistke in an attempt to be a witty cockspank...] comment here.

^i see how you put an actual spelling mistake there

3) Cars have "brakes", not "breaks".

3) Cars have "brakes", not "breaks".

3) Cars have "brakes", not "breaks".

Typos and occasional shorthand I can handle but full blown retarded spelling and grammar really grinds my gears.

I'm pretty un-prejudiced with most things, but if someones assignment submission reads like an 8 year old put it together I cant help but :rolleyes:, even if theyre quite obviously a lot smarter than I am in every other respect.

OARSIM

and anyone that's counting "cockspank" is a cockflog

The reason it gives me the s***s is on a text based forum/chat network, you'll find that kiddies or the tosspots tend to be the ones abbreviating/shortening crap like mad and misspelling like crazy. I usually group that with stupidity, gay trend following or retardism(eheh) and usually respond with a you're-a-f***wit-kinder attitude.

Why does using abbreviations such as m8 or ur annoy you so much?

because there is absolutely no need for it on a forum where you don't have a letter/word restriction. I can put up in txts because there is a reason for it. no one could possibly argue that typing a few extra letters is so much more effort that it makes it easier to type m8 than mate. it makes it much more difficult to read and makes the author look like a tool.

Oh come on, they are at University for f***s sakes.

I wouldn't exactly say I hate it, but I am slightly irritated when people say "f***s sakes" as it's similarly perpetuating a bad grammatical convention.

Unless I'm way off the mark, the correct expression is "for f***'s sake" - a derivitive of "for God's sake" etc. So why would you pluralise sake? What the hell is a f***s and why does it have multiple sakes.

cos it wants to get sloshed oh my lol

Whilst the spelling problem is rather annoying... It's the miswording (is that a word) of well known phrases that most annoys me. My housemate does it all the freaking time but i can't think of any at 1:17 in the morning.

the english language's funeral will be next week

Have to say, bad spelling and grammar doesn't really annoy me too much. I do notice it, cos I'm a bit of a spelling nazi, but as long as I can understand what the person is trying to communicate...meh -

What is the intention underlying the action or situation that, to delineate the outline or form of the sound or a combination of sounds, or its representation in writing or printing, that symbolizes and communicates the meaning... 'you' as the second person being thought of, regarded, or classified under a subsuming principle or on the very opposed in logical purpose, a general group in relation to another. Once anew to be in contention of the usage in a contextual reflex as the direct or indirect object or verb of the object 'me' and not 'you'. Alternate sentient beings different from those specified, burden your state of mental suffering and anguish with such of little significance or value?

Wherein, are 'you' alternate devices such as a common saw, lacking the necessary ability or capacity to be being predisposed to seeking the pleasure felt of having a good time in the group of persons of others to express criticism of perceived flaws in a fellow member of the genus Homosapian's ability to construe letters in order such that they constitute a word; which conglomerated appropriately form a grammatical unit of independant syntax consisting of subject and meaning?!?1?!1?!1?!1


Let's play hangman, the sentence I'm thinking of starts with the letter C ends in the letter Y, and contains the letters bsiraeg.

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no u r

waaambulance

Yeah the one thing that really bugs me is people who use sms abbreviations in other less appropriate facets. I remember some girls in highschool that would use ‘coz’, ‘ur’ and ‘sez’ etc as part of their normal written language. Used in class-work, assessments etc. Just stupid and frustrating as hell.

My boyfriends a nazi for correct grammar and spelling, I hate being corrected
:(

intermahnet bad spelling used to annoy me until i realised, like tollaz0r, that i wasn't annoyed because i couldn't comprehend what they were trying to communicate. i was just being pedantic & letting that annoy me. so now pendantic ppl, that really do understand the gist of what is being said but bar up over thier own pedantry, are the ammoyance... & i no noww hOO yOO awl r ! so expect to be annoyed by my spelzinz! :D

BLOODY CAPS LETTERS USED RIGHT THROUGH SENTENCES ARE FREAKING ANNOYING!!!

caps >= spelling

We need Mental Patient back to sort you all out.

omg captivate is a girl?

Does spelling annoy you too?

Not nearly as much as people who get annoyed at people who can't speel.

I am split on this.

The purpose of language is communication.
So where spelling improves communication then great, when it makes it more confusing, not so great.
One of annoyances with english is multiple meanings for a single spelling, and multiple spellings fo a single pronuciation to impart a particularly variance of a word.
The minute is a minute amount of time.
We practise at practice.
Rarely does a buck attack the does.

Spell is actually an artifact of the language, its not required. And standardised spelling I believe is a relatively new concept. ie. when was the first dictionary vs. how long have people spoken a relatively modern form of english? And who decides what correct anyways ?

yeah in ye olde english there were several common ways of spelling pretty much all words afaik. but still how f***ing difficult is it to learn basic spelling and grammar. if you make the effort and make mistakes then i couldn't care, but the spastics who don't even try piss me off. if you want me to take the time to read what you have written at least make an effort to make it correct so it is easier on the reader.

omg captivate is a girl?

Was it a secret?

i dont see why people care so much, there has never been a 'correct' way to do things in any language. languages evolve, they have been forever thats why there are different nuaces in all english speaking countries. english would have to be one of the most bastardised languaes in all languages as it has had far more influences then just about any other language.

I hate when people can't spell "desiccate"!

The reason why I basically try to type with as much correction as possible is because it's easy practice for when you have to type up important documents. I'm sure an employer wouldn't be impressed with "Hobbies: music n movies n friends n card collectin n stf lyk dat"

As mentioned before, it's not hard to hit an extra few keys, it's just common courtesy for the person you are talking to.

i hate it when someone spells a word and i have no idea what its meant to be, "desiccate" for example

edit: oh thats correct spelling right there

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Unless I'm way off the mark, the correct expression is "for f***'s sake" - a derivitive of "for God's sake" etc. So why would you pluralise sake? What the hell is a f***s and why does it have multiple sakes.

Thinking about it, you’re probably right. If fact, it might even be “for f*** sake”. However, I had always assumed that the “f***s” part related to one of the definitions of the word f***.

f***: Used in the imperative as a signal of angry dismissal.

So, “f***s” is more than one signal of angry dismissal :P

^ Who cares, Whether you say.
"for f*** sake" or
"for f***s sake" it sounds the frickin same unless you're some overly articulate poof, so nobody probably really knows which the actual saying is; regardless of which is grammatically correct.

what most people call 'standard' english these days is all very much shortened and abreviated(evolved) anyway. so stop ya bitch'n bitches.
personally i dont care as long as i understand it easily. However shizzal like m8 and other such gayness get under my foreskin. tho i dont feel the need to let or tell others, i'd rather spend that time 'pop'n' and getting all liquidy in my evolved dancing style.

^ Who cares, Whether you say.
"for f*** sake" or
"for f***s sake" it sounds the frickin same unless you're some overly articulate poof, so nobody probably really knows which the actual saying is; regardless of which is grammatically correct.

Apparently, Dan does.

On what Kharak said, with my work I get to see all the incoming applicant resumes. It is laughable what some people see as acceptable. I don’t know if it’s a case of being illiterate, or plain stupidity. If you are presenting yourself on a piece of paper to a company in the hope of being deemed worthy enough to be taken on board, you would think a little effort wouldn’t go astray.
Lets just say Kharaks example isn’t as off base as one might think :S

it is a common courtesy thing. a writer should write to be understood. i think most visitors to this forum have a general understanding of the slang terminologies commonly used amongst the gaming community and thus they should be accepted in posts.

modern society's ways of communicating are changing rapidly with technology. and this is influencing the kinds of abbreviated words being conjured up.

latin used to be the standard language for the entire roman empire. i remember my father telling me it was taught in school up the 60's even for no real purpose other than catholic mass being delivered entirely in latin.
after vatican 2 this ceased to happen and thus latin was no longer taught.

english is just another fad. it will die away one day too. so don't get too attached to your apostrophes.

^ Sad but true.

Seems with technological advances there are so many 'traditions' and processes being left by the wayside.

Where we are at in the next 50 years should be interesting... or scary?

So nobody probably really knows which the actual saying is; regardless of which is grammatically correct.

My hang-up is more with pluralising sakes, which is definitely distinguishable from the singular when spoken, yet so many people do it.

Listen out for it, you'll notice that people say "god sakes" etc all the time now.

Just say FFS, it's much easier.

Where we are at in the next 50 years should be interesting... or scary?

In a frickin' hole in teh ground, or damn close to it.
Jim probably will be keke ^_^

Just hope its an interesting hole

Dam - now that you mention it, people do, that doesnt even make sense =|

Unless I'm way off the mark, the correct expression is "for f***'s sake" - a derivitive of "for God's sake" etc. So why would you pluralise sake? What the hell is a f***s and why does it have multiple sakes.

I understand that God owns our sake so it can be said as 'God's sake'. But what does f*** own, implied by the 's? Surely not our sake? So I don't think your correction is completely valid.

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You annoy me Triamks

i think f*** doesnt own any sakes or sake or sake' so thats the whole point in the saying seeing as its meant to mean someone that you didnt want, you wouldnt expect the thing to go/work so you just give f*** all sakes


if that makes sense? If it doesnt, too bad

The feeling is mutual I'm sure jmr...