Anyone else watching the Iran/US relations deterioriate?

Fighting words

They would be stupid if they do. There already stretched out to thin in many other places.

Yes they will. Too coincidental.

holy s***. 40 000 suicide bombers. That's crazy.

I think there will be violence and armed conflict, but not an all out war like in Iraq.

Well, we all now how the yanks ended up dealing with suicide troops at the end of WW2
Iran want's glowing green dirt, I'm pretty sure that the yanks will give it to em

Lets not forget that Iran's nuclear program is over 30 years old and was started when US president Ford gave Iran the oportunity to buy US made nuclear fuel refineries.

I hope so, fps genre is wearing thin with not enough theatres of war. Im over desert storm/WW1+2/vietnam games.

They would be stupid if they do. There already stretched out to thin in many other places.

the US has been thinking about just nuking them..i dont think there lines will really matter, there was an article about it on ninemsn arround the 9/4/2006 cant seem to find it now..

Well, they can't nuke the entire country, so they'd need a big army in the vicinity to fend off the massive counter-attack that would come shortly after. And they'd need to step up their domestic security 100 fold to deal with the suicide attacks that would happen (if that article is to be believed)

what counter-attack, with there huge warheads..what are they called mulit warhead? wepons they could take out every military instalation in iran, it not like they dont have 150+ nukes...

The U.S. Could nuke whoever the f*** they want, and the U.N. will stand up and go "HEY! *points finer* THAT WAS.... BAD! WE.... DON'T APPROVE!!! Uhm... Don't do it again or else I might have to protest and do nothing again, k?"

what counter-attack

Because it's not like anybody else is going to get pissy about Iran getting nuked.....

I think the US has been putting the writing on the wall for a long time now. They started rhetoric on Iran a long time ago. Will they attack? Well, unless others stand up and appose them (diplomaticly), yes.

I think I said this a year or two ago..Iran is on the US 'to do' list for sure....then Syria....

just because iran say their nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only what the hell is stopping terrorist from stealing enriched uranium and using it against foreign nations or even the iranian people? There has been alot of anti-us talk on this topic, people saying the America are trying to play god in a sense that they are controlling the development of countries by denying them the means to create efficient clean power but i think these people are overlooking the fact that the secuirty of enriched uranium is paramount in making sure that WMD's can not exist in the hands of malicious parties. Given the amount of strife in the region I am certainly a little nervous about how easily the ingredients for a nuclear winter are so readily available to whomever wants them badly enough.

just because iran say their nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only what the hell is stopping terrorist from stealing enriched uranium and using it against foreign nations or even the iranian people? There has been alot of anti-us talk on this topic, people saying the America are trying to play god in a sense that they are controlling the development of countries by denying them the means to create efficient clean power but i think these people are overlooking the fact that the secuirty of enriched uranium is paramount in making sure that WMD's can not exist in the hands of malicious parties. Given the amount of strife in the region I am certainly a little nervous about how easily the ingredients for a nuclear winter are so readily available to whomever wants them badly enough.

f*** yeah I totally agree man, scary times ahead!!

the US has been thinking about just nuking them..i dont think there lines will really matter

What's your take (as your familiar with the ME) on their president making inflamitory statements, threatening the West/Israel in general, holding big military exercises several weeks ago...how can this possibly help their situation (on top of their nuclear program)?

Its like they're asking to be nuked/invaded. :(

The way it's heading, I think Israel will be the first to attack (as they're the closest, are being threatened by the Iranian president and have a superb military [complete with nukes]).

When you say they plan to NUKE them.
The actual battleplan is to use Nuclear warheads on Bunker Buster missiles.

One of the options under consideration involves the possible use of a bunker-buster tactical nuclear weapon, such as the B61-11, to insure the destruction of Iran's main centrifuge plant at Natanz, Hersh writes

from here

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As much as I hate to say it, there's a big difference between an atmospherice atmospheric detonation and an underground detonation when it comes to nukes.
Either way, a part of our world dies

Edit: spelling

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Its like they're asking to be nuked/invaded. :(

You do realise it's mainly just the president that's the cause of all this?

Many, if not most Iranians as well as some of the hardline clerics are shocked at the actions and politically-suicidal words of their president. He really is a fanatic.

Looks like I might have to put off my potential trip to Iran that I was planning for the end of this year :/

honestly, how hard is it to get a sniper to shoot there prez?


and the US wont attack unless the leaders have something to gain out of it. ie money

iran, then syria... so when you think about it, what part of the middle east hasn't the US invaded?

I nearly punched on with this Jewish c*** at a set of lights him and his little hat thing... his daughter was hot tho she wanted my nutz, so i backed of a little!

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I nearly punched on with this Jewish c*** at a set of lights him and his little hat thing... his daughter was hot tho, so i backed of a little!

way to go disproving the stereotype that all arabs are violent extremists dude!

Thankfully your penis stepped in to stop you from doing something stupid.

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I nearly punched on with this Jewish c*** *yada yada* his daughter was hot tho, so i backed of a little!

hey, he went a long way towards bridging the gap of intolerance if you ask me

theres only 1 thing worse than an arab, a mutant arab!










I'm sorry!

sorry won't get you hawaii

way to go disproving the stereotype that all arabs are violent extremists dude!

its okay, its just a small part of me getting back at them for what they're doing to us over in palestine and the rest of the world.

if he didn't have his family with him, i would have probably f***ed him up.


carry on.

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Thankfully your penis stepped in to stop you from doing something stupid.

probaly the first, and only time that will happen.

sorry i should really mention, that he was looking at me in a way that i couldn't help but not ignore. this is due probably to the arabic writing on the back windscreen on my brothers car..

they're doing to us

So you're making this one jewish guy (who may not have even been to israel) responsible for the actions of the Israeli government and military.

How would you feel if some american just came out of nowhere and beat you up because of what happened on 9/11 ?

All respect for you is now lost.

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that he was looking at me in a way that i couldn't help but not ignore.

So i guess the arabic law 'eye for an eye' would stipulate that you should give him a dirty look in return. If you assaulted him, your family would have to pay him 3 goats and a bag of sand, if i recall correctly.



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yup, i think your tops zubzub, but i just dont get this stupid hate for jews

i just want us all to get along

Korbs has made a good point there.

his daughter was hot

pics or lying

that he was looking at me in a way that i couldn't help but not ignore.

hehe such a subjective thing i spose, hell the dude might have been born like that but to you its a reason to BASH HIM IN THE f***. Grey areas rock..

e-respect. RESTECPA

So you're making this one jewish guy (who may not have even been to israel) responsible for the actions of the Israeli government and military.

a jew is a jew, weither he's been to palestine or not.

Suhaib just shutup already, you know you're not going to get a favourable response saying s*** like that on here.

and i care how?

so essentially you want to beat him up because he was born into a different set of traditions than you...

mind. blown.

a jew is a jew, weither he's been to palestine or not.

Oh ok, we'll just hang all arabs and nuke the f*** out of your country and dust our hands off and say, an arab is an arab, whether they bombed a building or not.

Wear the shoe on the other foot you stupid c***, get with the country that you are in.

I agree with korbs.

hahaha traditions? thats the least of my worries.

anyways i'm off fishing.i hope i catch a jewfish

Oh ok, we'll just hang all arabs and nuke the f*** out of your country and dust our hands off and say, an arab is an arab, whether they bombed a building or not.

umm haven't you guys already done that?

go ram your car into a tree, cos thats how cheap your life is... 'c***'.

See, cause of the stupid irrelavant s*** you said now everyone's gonna go "OMG SEE LOOK AT ALL ARABS AND PERSIANS THEY'RE SO VIOLENT, THEY DESERVE TO GET BOMBED IN THE f*** !!!".

ps. Loki back off you're the stupid c***, c***.



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no the cornbreads on here are like bassfish, they'd nibble on anything they can get.

Don't worry Booyah, I won't let one bad egg influence my opinion of middle-eastern Australians. I hope everyone else feels the same.

hey, i thought i was the only c*** here.
acceptance stage = passed...

Oh get over it c***.

Also keep up the good thinking korbs.

Wanna come jew Bashing pashing ?

i slam for islam

my point of view, im sure many agree.

if you disagree with what is happening 'over there' then GO there, fight your fight, find god, matyr yourself, end up in heaven with 200 virgins. just dont bring your f***ed up attitude and ways of ol' to this country.

at least be thankful you can practice any religion you want to in this country and not get arrested/shot or maybe wrapped in a sheet and have stones thrown at you until you die from your skull impacting your brain.

getting bites was easy tonight.. must be the weekend.

its ok, everyone is high on chocolate from a lack of alcohol due to the bottlo's being shut.

ahmadinejad has been running his mouth a lot lately, maybe he needs his ass kicked

beer shops only closed on friday.

If it wasn't for jews' I'd have an extra 3" of foreskin that I could use as a love glove

Apart from that, i don't give a s***

The U.S. Could nuke whoever the f*** they want, and the U.N. will stand up and go "HEY! *points finer* THAT WAS.... BAD! WE.... DON'T APPROVE!!! Uhm... Don't do it again or else I might have to protest and do nothing again, k?"

Well what the f*** do you expect them to do?

The UN wasn’t set up to be some sort of world police force, rather it was set up as an organisation to help countries freely communicate with each other. The only power that the UN has is power volunteered by its members. As most of their funding, and military comes from USA I don’t see how the UN could force the USA to do anything.

Imagine what the repercussions would be if the UN had enough actual power to stop a country like the USA doing something?

Israel has one of the best armed forces in the world, theres no doubt that they'll f*** the arabs up in a big way.

Yeah i wonder who's supporting them...


its ok, arab women pump out childen like rabbits, the israels keep trying to kill the young ones, but these mothers just keep pumping out more. they're born with C4 in their blood.

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arabs willing to die, and jews willing to kill them, should be a straightforward transaction really

i dont really know what to write here, my mother is Iranian and she's there, I have two half brothers that I've never met, i've lived there for 2 years as a kid


hmm, i guess it would be nice if the politicians/decision makers from both sides were congregated into a camp and done away with ... these people have been in control for way too long and it all needs some rationality, people who are in touch with f***ing reality

arab or australian? make your mind up?

Otherwise plz leave your nastyness on another forum.

The UN wasn’t set up to be some sort of world police force

Yes but neither was the United States.

Complementary flag-burning-gone-wrong pic:

http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~boldajis/images/flag_rofl.jpg

yes tanaka but no one said the US is a world police force

in fact the comment implied that the US is the one to *be* policed

arab or australian? make your mind up?

Who are you referring to by that rubbish comment anyway? if you're talking about iranians being arabs then no they're not, they're persians. Also no one has to make up their own mind about s***, i can be arab/australian or nothing at all.

Going back to the jew thing...

I'm interested... Do you look at people and only see reasons to bash the s*** out of them?? Or reasons to hate them?

umm i was somewhat baiting last night...

boxhead wants my nutz

it was good to watch.

honestly, how hard is it to get a sniper to shoot there prez?

Actually I think you'll find most western countries have laws specifically banning the assassinatino of foreign leaders.

Many, if not most Iranians as well as some of the hardline clerics are shocked at the actions and politically-suicidal words of their president.

Actually whilst this sounds nice in theory parabol, I was actually reading I think in Time a couple of weeks back that there are lots of (iranian) people who support this guy. Not just the religious zealots, but also people like students at university (who are quite wealthy). Mainly because he's 'standing up' for Iran and won't be pushed around by western (US) or israeli interests.

umm i was somewhat baiting last night...

boxhead wants my nutz

Just interested thats all.. Wondering if you 'as a people' see the world like that...

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Actually I think you'll find most western countries have laws specifically banning the assassinatino of foreign leaders

Sounds good in theory. There are also laws against torture yet the countries (especially the U.S.) find a way around it .. sometimes by outsourcing the torture.

Actually whilst this sounds nice in theory parabol, I was actually reading I think in Time a couple of weeks back

While you're talking about what you read in some magazine, I'm telling you what I hear through family in Iran. My mum was in Iran at the time of the elections and was speaking to people on the streets. Hardly 'theory'.

Want to know one of the main reasons the president got elected? A significant portion of the population didn't like him nor the alternative candidates and didn't go to vote .. allowing his crazy supporters to successfully vote him in. Go find some figures on what % of the total population voted him in. I have no doubt that even that figure is high due to vote-rigging.


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people are so f***ed in the head....

^ You are only realizing this now?

Mark Steyn in today's paper:

You know what’s great fun to do if you’re on, say, a flight from Chicago to New York and you’re getting a little bored? Why not play being President Ahmadinejad? Stand up and yell in a loud voice, “I’ve got a bomb!” Next thing you know the air marshal will be telling people, “It’s OK, folks. Nothing to worry about. He hasn’t got a bomb.” And then the second marshal would say, “And even if he did have a bomb it’s highly unlikely he’d ever use it.” And then you threaten to kill the two Jews in row 12 and the stewardess says, “Relax, everyone. That’s just a harmless rhetorical flourish.” And then a group of passengers in rows 4 to 7 point out, “Yes, but it’s entirely reasonable of him to have a bomb given the threatening behavior of the marshals and the cabin crew.”

That’s how it goes with the Iranians. The more they claim they’ve gone nuclear, the more U.S. intelligence experts — oops, where are my quote marks? — the more U.S. intelligence “experts” insist no, no, it won’t be for another 10 years yet. The more they conclusively demonstrate their non-compliance with the IAEA, the more the international community warns sternly that, if it were proved that Iran were in non-compliance, that could have very grave consequences. But, fortunately, no matter how thoroughly the Iranians non-comply it’s never quite non-compliant enough to rise to the level of grave consequences. You can’t blame Ahmadinejad for thinking “our enemies cannot do a damned thing.”

It’s not the world’s job to prove that the Iranians are bluffing. The braggadocio itself is reason enough to act, and prolonged negotiations with a regime that openly admits it’s negotiating just for the laughs only damages us further. The perfect summation of the Iranian approach to negotiations came in this gem of a sentence from the New York Times on July 13 last year:

“Iran will resume uranium enrichment if the European Union does not recognize its right to do so, two Iranian nuclear negotiators said in an interview published Thursday.”

Got that? If we don’t let Iran go nuclear, they’ll go nuclear. That position might tax even the nuanced detecting skills of John Kerry.

i reckon the israelis had the right idea in 1981 when iraq commisioned their nuclear reactor. they blew the s*** out of it, much to the whining of the entire world for such and illegal travesty. dont invade iran, just bomb it. what can they do?

My mum was in Iran at the time of the elections and was speaking to people on the streets. Hardly 'theory'.

Hardly science, either. I'm just suggesting that whilst alot of the western media like to make the iranian govt out to be a bunch of nutcases, there are always two sides to the story.

in relation to a low voter turnout, I don't think that situation is much different from alot of countries who don't have compulsory voting in elections (eg USA).

i reckon the israelis had the right idea in 1981 when iraq commisioned their nuclear reactor. they blew the s*** out of it, much to the whining of the entire world for such and illegal travesty. dont invade iran, just bomb it. what can they do?

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9084/twintowers4ia.jpg

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in relation to a low voter turnout, I don't think that situation is much different from alot of countries who don't have compulsory voting in elections (eg USA).

probably similar, except my 6th sense tells me people are just too lazy to vote in the USA as opposed to ideological concerns with the candidates

for me it would be interesting to see just whom the Iranians would vote for if absolutely anyone could run - the clerics get to veto candidates and they rejected literally thousands (iirc) of candidates for various positions this last election

edited to add quote - pornopete is 2 quik

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cainer:

i'm guessing the only reason Israel hasn't already bombed Iran is because the US has said something like, "Try diplomacy if it fails we will support you. If you go it alone then you're on your own."

Further to say Israel has had no response from its various wars is plain idiotic.

further to say that israel only attacked those who attacked them first. was it israel who attacked/acted in a manner of war with syria, egypt and jordan in 1967 and 1973 first ?

the point of view could be taken that it was wrong for israel to be established in the first place after ww2 but what would you expect a group of people to do ? lay down and be killed ? i think you'll find that israel has always looked after itself in the most effective way possible in the region. diplomacy doesn't work with middle eastern countries. it didnt work with iraq in 1990, it isnt working with syria - it took a entire countries uprising for force them out of lebanon. it clearly isnt working with iran at the present time.

and those 2 building didnt fall as a direct result of bombing a country. they were brought down by a big conspiracy. dont u watch those doccos on video.google

in relation to a low voter turnout, I don't think that situation is much different from alot of countries who don't have compulsory voting in elections (eg USA)

With the kind of people we [re]elect in Australia I'm not sure if compulsory voting is all that it's cracked up to be =)

we only vote for parties not leaders

who started the wars Israel has been involved in is immaterial. The point is that they have not bombed other countries with out reprisal.

if they built a nuclear reactor i would bomb them. same as we should bomb north korea if they build one. they wouild only use it to bully other countries, particularly given the leader of Iran is sworn to destroying Israel.

haha just as team america world police do. "

accept our sanctions or we'll invade your country depose your administration and send you to jail."

sif they'd do that

and those 2 building didnt fall as a direct result of bombing a country. they were brought down by a big conspiracy. dont u watch those doccos on video.google

the truth is out there maaan

is that site a joke i don't understand if it is

arabs willing to die, and jews willing to kill them, should be a straightforward transaction really

fkn lol.

Hear about the Iranian Mulims who wanted to become martyrs? They hack your computer from a remote location in Iran and then blow themselves up

ahah

Well as the saying goes, if u can't hack it don't dish it out.

is that site a joke i don't understand if it is

From the site:

Copyright (c) 2003-2006 Gay n***** Association of America.

i think the site is deadly serious

I'm seriously

haha as if you'd trust a conspiracy website that has "fan art" section

Linear time is LIE. Cubic time is TRUTH, you are EDUCATED STUPID, SEE BEYOND.

hahaha

Here's an intersting and very f***ing scary read on Cherynobol today from the eyes of a local whose father (according to there account) is a nuclear physicist and has educated her on the reality of dormant radiation.

This chick regularly rides through a narrow passage considered *reasonably safe as long as you don't stop* on a bike carrying a geiger counter (complete with pics of the counter being held up against some landmark within the region.

This should be a poignant reminder of what can go wrong if s*** goes wrong. Something else to remember, this was just a civilian disaster and not an intentional act of aggression involving nukes....

f*** nukes and the powers who WANT to weild them. I may as yet turn this into a thread of it's own

umm... wasn't that fake? apparently she had made it all up..

yeah that was debunked as fake when it was posted to slashdot 2-3 years ago.

just put a crater where the middle east is, its the a****** of the world anyway....