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Topic: Creatine (attn: acetame)
BOOST
Posts: 108
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hey i saw in one of those gym threads that acetame got 1.5kg of creatine for $30 - just wondering where abouts and what brand to get? Specifically a shop on the northside...
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Persay
Posts: 3449
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
if you don't post pix of your rear delts he won't tell you anything

edit: i'm interested in some protein shakes, come school us ace!

last edited by Persay at 21:44:46 17/Oct/05
darius
Posts: 341
Location:
i dont think creatine is that much of a good idea youre just better spending that money on some good whey protein with the proper aminoacid combination and eating a proper diet

creatine just alows you to retain water better but you really dont need that either if you drink enough water before during and after your workouts

ps. water is realy important if youre serious about the workouts make sure youre never dehydrated, a book ive read states that even if youre 3% dehydrated you loose about 10% of your strength

last edited by darius at 21:47:56 17/Oct/05
Trin
Posts: 2277
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://www.adastreet.com.au/

darius
Posts: 342
Location:
for general building up most whey protein is about the same? as long as its got 70+ % protein and has the basic types of aminoacids you need (cant remember all the names right now) you should be about right

theres a table ive got here on how much protein you need per your body weight and for my weight (95kg) i need about 140g of protein. so if i have my 3 protein shakes (each one has about 45g of protein) a day and some fish / chicken (whcih usualy is about another 40g for me) im about right on my protein coverage. then i need my 700g of carbohydrates with low glycemic index and im pretty much set with the diet.

heres some protein percentages for common foods (calculated on 100g):
tuna - 24%
cottage cheese - 21%
soya beans - 25%
bacon - 12%
skinless chicken breast - 26%
5 whole eggs - 26%

keep in mind though a lot of that stuff also has high % of fat and you want to keep your daily fat intake below 15% and sugars as low as possible
gimpy
Posts: 368
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
creatine = waste of time money

Just do roids, better results. :)

OR, you could just be content with your natural size afte realising it's a pointless exercise in futility.
Stez
Posts: 2852
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://www.ultimatephysique.com.au/index.php?action=category&id=5

creatine's creatine basically. Just get the cheapest s*** u can.

Let's not start another epic e-war on it and what it does again.

But yeah, as gimpy said, just do juice :P
Trin
Posts: 2278
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
You still need to eat s***loads with the gear though
gimpy
Posts: 369
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hell yeah, it's not like silicone muscles.

You have to train harder and eat more than ever before, how else would it be possible.

I'm jsut saying creatine is horses***. If your that way inclince, roids is your best option. 8 week cycle, 10kgs, you can probably hold 5kgs of it if your lucky. I've done creatine cycles, and yeah its great when ur on it, but when u stop, it goes.
gimpy
Posts: 370
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Also, I think I looked better not on creatine.

I trained like a f***ing pscyho on just protein and I was so cut, people would watch me train and comment on my muscles. I'm not a big guy, but I was really cut. And I think that's the best I can do in that facet of life. I remember doing a bent-over dumbell row at the gym and 2 guys were watching me and one of them said, check out his f***ing biceps. I wasn't even big, I was just really f***ing cut.

I can never be huge, I worked that out. Now I just wanna fill out my shirts without buying a new wardrobe. You can get all excited about being huge, but there is no point in my opinion and it's a waste of time and energy. You have to keep it up forever to keep it anyway.

Like most things in life, it's about percentage of energy invested, in relation to percentage gained. Think about it. It's simple.
spidz
Posts: 9171
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
congratulations, thats the most homo post i've ever read!
gimpy
Posts: 371
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Wanna have sex? You can be the bitch.
Persay
Posts: 3450
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you're the one with the ineffective junk
gimpy
Posts: 372
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
IT WAS A JOKE MOTHER f***ER.

Look if u need some help with the ladies, let me know.
whoop
Posts: 9275
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
what's a good way to lose that body fat stuff? without necessarily gaining any muscle mass. Jumping rope?
gimpy
Posts: 373
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Weights, 3 times a week.
25 mins of Cardio, 2 times a week.
And just be sensible about what you eat.

If you have trouble doing this, build up to it. Start off with what you CAN do, then build up to it.
Crizane Tribal
Posts: 820
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
While we're harrassing Acetame, I need some workout advice. I'm currently working on arm definition and I need a good method of working the deltoids, partucularly the lateral deltoid. Any info?

Hey Darius do you know of any good high protein diets that a poor uni student can afford? Eggs, milk, bean mix and WPI are getting much love from me ATM, but I want more variety.

Also, does anybody use Mike Mentzer methods?

Sorry to derail your thread a bit, but I don't wanna start another working out thread :P
d[o_0]b
Posts: 508
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i like to break a mental sweat
BOOST
Posts: 109
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i tried creatine and it gave me a big energy hit which helped alot in weight training after a full days work. thats why i'm keen to try it out again and see how it goes. i'm already onto the protein shake.
cainer
Posts: 1013
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
if you want to know what exercises to do for certain areas or if creatine is right for you, perhaps you should visit www.bodybuilding.com and go and read about proper nutrition for starters.

once you get that in check next step should be the supplements, workout routines and finding out what is right for you and what results you want.
xot
Posts: 76
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
dont worry about brand. its all the same s***. just get the cheapest.

you could try Go Vita at chermside (but i think theyre full of s*** and overpriced sometimes - i got a tub for $25 once) otherwise, wherever

last edited by xot at 17:29:01 18/Oct/05
acetame
Posts: 1359
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
creatine is s***... kfc is better
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 6880
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
dont worry about brand. its all the same s***. just get the cheapest.


The purity of what is inside the tin/tube surly has something to do with price?
XeK
Posts: 644
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
green bulge yo
Stez
Posts: 2855
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://webstore.cellbiology.com.au

Best supps in the country, at the best prices.
A_W
Posts: 686
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Great site there Stez. Thanks.
Princess Kitten
Posts: 26
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Ask acetame about the effects and relationship of steriods and small penises
kmart
Posts: 117
Location: Queensland
My name is Stez. I promote crappy online stores.
Stez
Posts: 2856
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Uncalled for kmart.
Trin
Posts: 2279
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Ask acetame about the effects and relationship of steriods and small penises

Pigeon balls not small penises
ToOLx
Posts: 151
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Get into those protein shakes BOOST .. cya in 2 months tank ;)
A_W
Posts: 717
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Thought some of you may find this interesting or useful.

Link here.

What do you BB buffs think?
StreX
Posts: 4820
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Sorry, unable to ship outside the US at this time.


Anyone know if this stuff is available in Aus anywhere?
A_W
Posts: 724
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Maybe you could import some from thier UK/Europe affiliate?? I mean if the customer is paying for freight, what's to lose? why wouldn't you sell to them?

So try and check it out Strex.
blahnana
Posts: 118
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Just buy eggs and bin the yolks. Better might be to recycle them somehow, but just eat the whites for protein and lose the yolks and you'll be fine.

I don't do this, but I know a bodybuilder/nutritionist who does that and gets mileage from it.
German
Posts: 2429
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Just buy whey protein, Body ripped is one of the better products around.
Crizane Tribal
Posts: 864
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I heard somewhere that whey protein isolate is the best for if you want to develope lean muscle mass rather than bulking up (I'm looking to build the lean muscle mass). Any truth to this?
xot
Posts: 85
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
its true crizane.
Crizane Tribal
Posts: 871
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Well nobody answered my question about Mike Mentzer. But some of his methods are really good. Like taking 4 seconds to do teh postive and 4 seconds on the negative for each lift, and then when you can no longer complete the positives, do as many negatives as possible (helps to have a partner or spotter). It really makes a difference.
Stez
Posts: 2859
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Strex: there used to be a product at the supermarket that came in cartons which was just egg whites. I never found a source in brisbane though. All this egg-white s*** has to be kept refridgerated thats why u can't ship it anywhere.

I think u can get the powder though which is the same s***.

Otherwise just get bulk WPC which is the cheapest and most convenient option anyway.

Just so ur all aware, a lot of commercial proteins are s*** and cut with crap. Heaps have failed their label claims. I only get my protein in bulk and direct from dairy manufacturers.
A_W
Posts: 726
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Must be a short timeframe on the product Stez otherwise they wouldn't be able to ship it even in thier own coutry cause it has to be "kept refridgerated" . So im thniking insulated packaging or short amount of OK time when it's not cold before it needs to be cold.
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